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Ceridwen
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posted March 26, 2014 10:32 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, so many years ago, but I still don`t agree with this.


The 1st house and 7th house do have to play a role though, this part I agree with.

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posted March 26, 2014 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Well, so many years ago, but I still don`t agree with this.


The 1st house and 7th house do have to play a role though, this part I agree with.


I must say though I'm surprised that in my case it works. My 11th house ruler is mars, my 7th house ruler is Saturn. On his birthday, these transits were hitting my natal:
Mars transiting my 7th house
Transit Saturn conjunct my natal mars

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posted March 26, 2014 12:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL

Indigo,

I wanted to have a look at Leonardo Di Caprio`s and Kate Winslet`s composite, but accidentally pressed the buton before giving in her data, so it showed me MY composite with him (never really was a fan or crushing on him, but was VERY impresed from the first film I saw him in "Gilbert Grape", and remembered that I was thinking he felt as familiar as my brother. lol well he has been born just a month before me, maybe that was why).


Never really looked at a composite with him before, but I had to laugh when I saw that now.


ISIS on 27.57 Sagittarius conjunct OSIRIS on 29.50 Sagittarius.

With helio composite

ISIS on 7.56 Capricorn conjunct OSIRIS on 8.09 Capricorn.


The funny thing is that MY NATAL ISIS on 8.32 Cap and my natal OSIRIS On 7.50 Cap

Just hilarious


EDIT
Even funnier

tropical DAvison has

ISIS on 27.46 Sag conjunct OSIRIS on 29.45 Sag


helio Davison

ISIS on 7.49 Cap
OSIRIS on 8.09 Cap

synastrically his OSIRIS is on the antiscion of my ISIS (0°22)

his RUDRA conjuncts my PARVATI exact

While my RUDRA Is too far to conjunct his PARVATI,

there is a mixed midpoint alignment

his Rudra/My Parvati: 28°11 Leo
my Rudra/ his Parvati 29°55 Leo


in helo we are both having a RUDRA-PARVATI-conjunction natally

and of course that results in Rudra on 3.25 Leo conjunct Parvati on 1. 47 Leo.

helio Davison (for some weird reason our Davison and composite are VERY similiar to each other, maybe becuase of the closeness in birth).

has Parvati on 1.35 Leo conj. Rudra on 3.22 Leo.

The helio syn has also an exact Venus-Mars conjunction on my tropical 12th house cusp.


Anyway I did not even want to look up that stuff, but youk now how it is, you spot something, you want to know what it is, you delve deeper, even if there is no other interest than mere curiosity.

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posted March 26, 2014 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

no, not really a difference.

The Draconic are calculated by relating your natal placements to the natal North Node, hence the distance between your North Node and 00 Aries, is the same as the distance between your Draconic (or nodal) placements and your natal placements.

The aspect-gestalt stays the same of course, as every planets is shifted the same distance.

That is for the natal-Draconic. Okay.


In SYNASTRY new aspects can form, because each person usually has a different North Node.


In COMPOSITE however the North Node is, well, the composite North Node, every planet is shifted this distance, hence the aspect gestalt stays the same as well.

HOWEVER, there is one speciality with composites, as we are dealing with midpoints, which are always an axis, 180° of each other.


That can result in a tropical composite aspect apepar as EITHER the same in Draco composipte, OR 180° minus the aspect.

Hence a conjunction can become an opposition, a trine a sextile and so on (only squares stay the same).

In your case.

Tropical composite has Sun on 28 Leo and Moon on 8 Aquarius


Draco composite has Sun on 2 Gemini and Moon on 12 Taurus

It is an accurate mirroring of the tropical composite with the speciality that I mentioned that a planet can occupy its opposite place, which happened with the Moon here.


I can see how that's happening with PSYCHE and EROS, but the MOON was in 08º AQU. You're saying it became a square and moved a few degrees? Is that the same with the SUN? (Being that it went from 28º LEO to a bit over 28º TAU?)

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posted March 26, 2014 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Brand new song played this morning; I only caught the chorus as it's literally the first thing I heard as I awoke. Don't recall my dreams at all. It's a jumble of ... it's just a jumble. I think I was more drawn into the song / chorus.

09:38 PDT
http://youtu.be/SLQrarmaiZ0

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
I can see how that's happening with PSYCHE and EROS, but the MOON was in 08º AQU. You're saying it became a square and moved a few degrees? Is that the same with the SUN? (Being that it went from 28º LEO to a bit over 28º TAU?)

Yes, Moon in 8 Aqua, NN in 26 Gemini.

Moon = 308° (8 Aqua)
NN = 86°° (26 Gemini)


You substract the Nn from the Moon to arrive at the Draco placement.

This would be 222° or 12 Scorpio.


Since we are dealing with a composite, which is a midpoint chart, this could also appear as 42° or 12 Taurus.


The reason is that even though we treat any placement in the composite as absolute and unique, there are actually always TWO positions.

WE are not really dealing with simple points, but we are dealing with a midpoint - AXIS in a composite.


It means that in reality your composite Moon, compromised of the midpoints of both of your Moons, actually has two midpoints. 8 Aquarius and 8 Leo.
We usually pick the near one as the most relevant (but the other, far midpoint still exists).

All of this is well, but it means that in a Draco composite the planet can be on either end of the midpoint axis.


So your tropical Moon is on 24 Scorpio - his tropical Moon is probably around 22 Aries.

The NEAR midpoint of these would be 8 Aquarius (though the far one is 8 leo).

Now in your Draco chart your Moon is on 6 Cancer, his Draco Moon is around 18 Pisces, which results in a near midpoint of 12 Taurus, instead of 12 Scorpio.

But yes, to summarize it the reason for that is simply that we are dealing with an axis rather than a point.

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posted March 26, 2014 02:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and yes, same with Sun

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BTW looking at Leo`s and Kate`s composite, I can`t help but notice the Venus-Pluto-conjunction on the ASC.

plus a beautiful VALENTINE-NN conjunction

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posted March 26, 2014 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by tgem:
"quote:
Originally posted by Coffee:
Time for a dose of reality from Doctor Astro!
The chance of finding what people call a "twin flame" is very low. The chances of these couples being with their "twin flame" is also very low. Still a chance though.
How I go about fining one is as follows....was looking today actually.

Find out from your natal chart when they were born.

Which means your 11th ruler in transit (at the the time of potential twin soul birth) must be conjunct your natal 7th ruler. With your 7th ruler in transit (at the time of your potential twin soul birth) conjunct to your 11th ruler.

Why this way?

From your natal and transits for when your potential partner is born, you can check to see in your chart WHEN your partner is born.

I am Aqua rising. Jupiter rules my 11th. Sun rules my 7th.
My 11th is partners 5th. My 7th is partners 1st.
To find a birth of any kind, you look to 5th ruler in aspect to 1st ruler an also 1st in aspect to 5th ruler.
Good aspects are fine, but the conjunction is better. Best one!

If you want to test this idea out, look at when a person important to you was born and it should show up.

You will come up with a few options for that. Or at least you should.


Then.....I do a little more. Even though the above should be enough.

Once I have a few charts that satisfy the above conditions, I look at my 1st and 7th rulers in aspect to her 1st and 7th rulers.
The best will be my 1st conjunct her 7th. Other way round too. My 7th conjunct her 1st too, and other way round.

For a bit extra, check the rest of the houses to see if it matches the house ruler for the other person.


Lots of well aspected options to choose from using the above method, but I go one step too far and look for an actual date. Not a few. It would be nice to try this way, if only for an experiment."

....copied this post from the other TF thread. This is an interesting concept and I recommend experimenting with it to see if it holds true. Shockingly, when I typed in the transits that were occurring on the Cusp's birthday and applied them to my natal chart, it FITS! And the same applies to him! Now, I totally see why we have the Mars/Saturn Connection!!!!

Let me know if this method works for you guys!! 😳


Maybe it's because I'm in the postdrome from a 3-day migraine, but that broke my brain.

... what?

I don't even know where to begin. Is it just me, or is that not really clear?

I'm getting the gist that my MOON my (11R) should be conjunct his NEPTUNE (my 7R), or making an aspect. 24º to 01º CAP, so, no. (Or, okay, 'semiquintile' - but, REALLY, folks?)

Or his JUPITER (his 11R) should be conjunct my SUN (7R). Well, it's a 1º square, but I'm finding fault with this method - unless I'm completely misunderstanding.

I'm glad you're finding a 'purpose' for the SATURN-MARS, though. Is it a 11R/7R link?

Which, frankly, I think is total BS.

Unless we're suddenly making 11H about Twin Flames, in which case ... I'll study it. But that's quite a new theory, in my book.

I tend to like to see DSC/ASC, DSC-R, ASC-R, and VX links, honestly. Or mirroring.

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posted March 26, 2014 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Yes, Moon in 8 Aqua, NN in 26 Gemini.

Moon = 308° (8 Aqua)
NN = 86°° (26 Gemini)


You substract the Nn from the Moon to arrive at the Draco placement.

This would be 222° or 12 Scorpio.


Since we are dealing with a composite, which is a midpoint chart, this could also appear as 42° or 12 Taurus.


The reason is that even though we treat any placement in the composite as absolute and unique, there are actually always TWO positions.

WE are not really dealing with simple points, but we are dealing with a midpoint - AXIS in a composite.


It means that in reality your composite Moon, compromised of the midpoints of both of your Moons, actually has two midpoints. 8 Aquarius and 8 Leo.
We usually pick the near one as the most relevant (but the other, far midpoint still exists).

All of this is well, but it means that in a Draco composite the planet can be on either end of the midpoint axis.


So your tropical Moon is on 24 Scorpio - his tropical Moon is probably around 22 Aries.

The NEAR midpoint of these would be 8 Aquarius (though the far one is 8 leo).

Now in your Draco chart your Moon is on 6 Cancer, his Draco Moon is around 18 Pisces, which results in a near midpoint of 12 Taurus, instead of 12 Scorpio.

But yes, to summarize it the reason for that is simply that we are dealing with an axis rather than a point.


Thank you for breaking down the maths of it. That helps.

I'm now realising the fact that the MOON jumped away from ALICE and EROS, instead landing near PSYCHE and MADHATTER - IS significant.

What do you make of it being IC-ALICE-EROS-MOON / IC-PSYCHE-MADHATTER near SUN in Tropical with ALICE near PSYCHE at the IC and MADHATTER-EROS-MOON near the MC in Draco?

I can't put my finger on it, but that flip-flop is important somehow.

Not that I wouldn't pay attention to EROS and PSYCHE, but that ALICE and MADHATTER are there is throwing a pinpoint spotlight on it, you know?

I couldn't help but notice LEWISCARROLL flipped, too. In Tropical, with SNODE. In Draco, it's NNODE.

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He uses 11th house because it is the 5th house of the partner, and has to do with romance.

It also has to be BOTH. 5th ruler conjunct 11th ruler, 11th ruler conjunct 5th ruler, possibly exact. in the transits, and on a date that is true your tf might have been born.
Oh and he uses whole sign house or equal I think.

For me that would make Venus and Mercury paramount. And the day Tr Venus is conjunct my n Mercury AND tr Mercury conjuncts my n Venus exact would be THE day.


Just explaining. Not agreeing.


He has a very inventive mind though, I just don`t agree with much.

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posted March 26, 2014 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
LOL

Indigo,

I wanted to have a look at Leonardo Di Caprio`s and Kate Winslet`s composite, but accidentally pressed the buton before giving in her data, so it showed me MY composite with him (never really was a fan or crushing on him, but was VERY impresed from the first film I saw him in "Gilbert Grape", and remembered that I was thinking he felt as familiar as my brother. lol well he has been born just a month before me, maybe that was why).


Never really looked at a composite with him before, but I had to laugh when I saw that now.


ISIS on 27.57 Sagittarius conjunct OSIRIS on 29.50 Sagittarius.

With helio composite

ISIS on 7.56 Capricorn conjunct OSIRIS on 8.09 Capricorn.


The funny thing is that MY NATAL ISIS on 8.32 Cap and my natal OSIRIS On 7.50 Cap

Just hilarious


EDIT
Even funnier

tropical DAvison has

ISIS on 27.46 Sag conjunct OSIRIS on 29.45 Sag


helio Davison

ISIS on 7.49 Cap
OSIRIS on 8.09 Cap

synastrically his OSIRIS is on the antiscion of my ISIS (0°22)

his RUDRA conjuncts my PARVATI exact

While my RUDRA Is too far to conjunct his PARVATI,

there is a mixed midpoint alignment

his Rudra/My Parvati: 28°11 Leo
my Rudra/ his Parvati 29°55 Leo


in helo we are both having a RUDRA-PARVATI-conjunction natally

and of course that results in Rudra on 3.25 Leo conjunct Parvati on 1. 47 Leo.

helio Davison (for some weird reason our Davison and composite are VERY similiar to each other, maybe becuase of the closeness in birth).

has Parvati on 1.35 Leo conj. Rudra on 3.22 Leo.

The helio syn has also an exact Venus-Mars conjunction on my tropical 12th house cusp.


Anyway I did not even want to look up that stuff, but youk now how it is, you spot something, you want to know what it is, you delve deeper, even if there is no other interest than mere curiosity.


Those always amuse me. But I can't help but think you'd have soul-connexions to many actors. You seem to be linked to that 'pool', so to speak.

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Indigo,

yes, I think it IS signifcant if it flips.

I have something similiar in the composite with Mr Sag and Jude.


with Jude:

tropical composite:

VESTA 16.53 Pisces
KARMA 18.01 Pisces

opposite

VALENTINE 17.01 Virgo


Draconic composite
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KARMA 19.31 Sag
VALENTINE 18.30 Sag

opposite

VESTA 18.23 Gemini


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The interesting thing is that oppositions in a Draconic chart, which is calculated with the North Node, are as a matter of fact conjunctions in a Draco chart, calculated from the perspective of the South Node.


I cannot help but think this IS significant.

The usual Draconic chart highlights the relationship to hte NORTH Node, though even though it might come from the past, it has RELEVANCE for the present. it is the remains from the past you need to use to go forward, an ongoing connection.


However, I ws speculating, what if the oppositions in a Draconic chart are really about something that has been completed in the past, that WAS there and yes you incorporated it, but you don´t need to repeat it anymore? It is after all a South Node emphasis!

(of course this probably would be only relevant in terms of connections bewteen Draconic and tropical chart).

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well with Mr SAg I share


tropical composite

JUNO 22.19 Taurus
ALMA 20.00 Taurus

opposite

LUST 22.03 Scorpio
VALENTINE 23.34 Scorpio

Draconic composite
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ALMA 29.14 ARies
LUST 1.16 Taurus
JUNO 1.33 Taurus
VALENTINE 2.48 Taurus


I definitely find it significant that there was a flip to gather all these asteroids together.
With the opposite there is today there actually might be more of a balance, though a certain tension as well.

However, back then, in a past life possibly, the concentration of erotic and romantic energies might have been just TOO much.

I find it interesting that this is conjunct our CHIRON in tropical composite, which is on 29.49 Aries.

There is work to do.

"'What do you make of it being IC-ALICE-EROS-MOON / IC-PSYCHE-MADHATTER near SUN in Tropical with ALICE near PSYCHE at the IC and MADHATTER-EROS-MOON near the MC in Draco?"

I wonder if there has been a role reversal taking place?

In the Dracos, past life or however you want to interprete it, there was a clear split between the feminine principle (Alice and Psyche) which also happens at the IC, which is the ASC of the soul, as I once read, and of the houses a receptive feminine one, resonating with Moon-symbolism. and the masculine (Eros-Madhatter on the more externally oriented, Saturn-like, MC).

In comnparision there seems to be a change into the present incarnation, a sense of fusion and unity. the feminine and masculine fuse in the form of Alice (yin) and Eros (yang), and Madhatter (yang) and Psyche (Yin).
The feminine might learn a lot about the erotic side of things, the masculine about the soulfulness that is needed for completion. (BTW you are relaly sure he is not your twinflame? lol Just asking).

Both taking place at the IC, is relevant as well, for this is the very ground, foundation of your connection. I know IQ doesn`t pay as much attention to the IC, but personally I do. the ASC might be the portal into materialization and physicality, but the IC is the very core of your being, your soul, your union.
Here the feminine and the masculine reach that ultimate depth. Though having said that the IC is also invisible, though it is the very blood flowing through the veins of your union, it might not be so obvious or conscious. It is so inbuilt, that sometimes people do not quite notice, and especially other people might not realize that THIS is what is the core of your being.

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Those always amuse me. But I can't help but think you'd have soul-connexions to many actors. You seem to be linked to that 'pool', so to speak.

Yes, I am.

It is amazing, actually. You know IQ once asked me where I find those guys I have this astounding synastry/ composite with.
But the truth is it seems ONLY with actors (very special ones, at least to me. lol) that this happens


(did I mention that John Cusack`s Psyche is precisely conjunct my Eros with only 4 minutes of arc and his Pluto conjuncts my PERSEPHONE by 3 degrees; his Zeus conjunct my Hera by 2 degrees)
the composite also sports my THEME-soulmate pairing, it crops up too often to be coincidence. Pluto square Proserpina at 1 degree, exact in helio; widish Alma-Juno conjunction at 3 degrees in helio; one degree square of ErosPsyche in helio, in geo it owuld be 3 degrees; Rudra-Parvati conjunction at 2 degrees in helio with Kaali conjuncting the Alma-Juno-conjunction; in tropical composite Alma and Juno are just out of orb of conjunction, as well as Isis - Osiris. a true ALMOST composite. LOL


It is just funny, and just one of the examples.


However I do not have the same good synastry with other people. Not at all. It seems to be disctinctive to actors, and even more so to stage-actors. Not to writers, scientists, teachers and the like. But performers.

Why?

I don´t know if I can really answer the question, but thinking back, I have always always seen life as a big play, sometimes a comedy, sometimes a tragedy, sometimes romantic, and so on.

I have always been THINKING fiction, stories. Everything is a story.
But whenever I wrote a story, what I REALLY Did, was looking inside and SEE it being played out, unravelling before my eyes.


Someone once said All the world`s a stage (and yes we all know who said it I guess)

And I guess I have always felt like this, perceived things like this. Always in the big scheme of some big play.


Fitting to this one of the most enlightening messages I have ever gotten was THROUGH a film, curiously through Kate Winslet in "the holiday". That bit when she is our eating with the old man and they are talking and this dialogue ensues:

"Arthur Abbott: Iris, in the movies we have leading ladies and we have the best friend. You, I can tell, are a leading lady, but for some reason you are behaving like the best friend.
Iris: You're so right. You're supposed to be the leading lady of your own life, for god's sake! Arthur, I've been going to a therapist for three years, and she's never explained anything to me that well. That was brilliant. Brutal, but brilliant."


I think that was actually the time, I subconsciously decided to accept being the leading lady in my own life. I just didn`t know if I could pull it off and how it could be done, and well at first I was just depressed and hurt by that dialogue cause as much as I thought it was true, it seemed out of reach for me.

Strange.


I remember that i was watching this on 21st december 2006 (why do I remember the date? lol).

In the midst of when things had started to get in motion.

Anyway, back to today and actors.
From my earliest memories on I have always been acting. ALWAYS. Roleplaying.
I still do. just incorporating it into my work. For example I play `teacher`.

No I haven`t been playing on a stage, I would never have dared to put myself that much on display, and I am awkward and uncomfortable in my own skin; I was at least. lol

But that drive, that urge to play, I couldn`t quite keep it down, and I suppose it comes out n my enthusiasm for the other side, the audience side. Though I am not really that detached audience. I probably grimace a lot, when ngaging with some gripping performance, I don´t know. There must be a reason why some actors are drawn to my face in the audience. Of course not all, just a few special ones.


But yeah, actually I have started to incorporate a lot of roleplays into my lessons as well. And have been sort of pushed to do some kind of theatre-project-course in school. The one course that energizes me like no other, een though I have no clue what I am even doing. But somehow when I dived in there, I notied that I can swim, and I did not even know I could. It`s just, natural.
Sometimes I need to be careful not to overwhelm my poor pupils. Of course i am not playing, just supervising their improvisations, and it can happen that I would say: "no, Juliet wouldn`t do that." LOL
Coincidentally the theme of the course is surrounding Pyramus et Thisbe, or Romeo and Juliet.
But modernized versions of it. It is really jsut playing around. And it seems my pupils like that style. LOL

I also think I have opened up a lot more for this or through this, I don´t quite know.
Actually I was asked by pupils to give them a short interview/ statement for their paper about why it is important to participate in elections. Not a big deal, just a few months ago I would have played dead before taking the risk to get recorded, or having to see myself.

Things have changed I guess. And I was actually quite surprised by the way I came across on that video. Well, I still hate my voice and especially that lisp I haveh ad since childhood (though usually other people do not mind it at all; the only reactions I ever heard aout it was that it is "cute". LOL Nah I do not think so, but never mind), but I was surprised about the way i looked right there. Also how I was standing, the whole appearance, it seemed VERY different to the woman I was 2 years ago.
I hardly recognized her in that video.
However whom I did recognize was the young girl I once have been before shutting myself away from the outside world.

I guess I am back again.


Oh may so much babbling, but yeah, I think deep inside I am an actress. That is why my stars are linked to that group so much.
I may not be an actress as a job, but it is how I perceive the world. At lesat to an extent.

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Maybe it's because I'm in the postdrome from a 3-day migraine, but that broke my brain.

... what?

I don't even know where to begin. Is it just me, or is that not really clear?

I'm getting the gist that my MOON my (11R) should be conjunct his NEPTUNE (my 7R), or making an aspect. 24º to 01º CAP, so, no. (Or, okay, 'semiquintile' - but, REALLY, folks?)

Or his JUPITER (his 11R) should be conjunct my SUN (7R). Well, it's a 1º square, but I'm finding fault with this method - unless I'm completely misunderstanding.

I'm glad you're finding a 'purpose' for the SATURN-MARS, though. Is it a 11R/7R link?

Which, frankly, I think is total BS.

Unless we're suddenly making 11H about Twin Flames, in which case ... I'll study it. But that's quite a new theory, in my book.

I tend to like to see DSC/ASC, DSC-R, ASC-R, and VX links, honestly. Or mirroring.


I just thought it was an interesting concept and ironic how it worked out in my case. I have read a couple theories though that 11th house is associated with TF's..maybe because it's ruled by aquarius...I don't know. It didnt go both ways exact in my case though. It just explained how my 7th house ruler (Saturn) was transiting over my 11th house ruler. My 11th house ruler (mars) was transiting through my 7th (ruled by Saturn) on his birthday..

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I think the 11th house is more important than we give it credit for in terms of relationships and expressing and receiving love, but I don`t think it is tf-specific.

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but the IC is the very core of your being, your soul, your union.
Here the feminine and the masculine reach that ultimate depth. Though having said that the IC is also invisible, though it is the very blood flowing through the veins of your union, it might not be so obvious or conscious. It is so inbuilt, that sometimes people do not quite notice, and especially other people might not realize that THIS is what is the core of your being.

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He uses 11th house because it is the 5th house of the partner, and has to do with romance.

It also has to be BOTH. 5th ruler conjunct 11th ruler, 11th ruler conjunct 5th ruler, possibly exact. in the transits, and on a date that is true your tf might have been born.
Oh and he uses whole sign house or equal I think.

For me that would make Venus and Mercury paramount. And the day Tr Venus is conjunct my n Mercury AND tr Mercury conjuncts my n Venus exact would be THE day.


Just explaining. Not agreeing.


He has a very inventive mind though, I just don`t agree with much.


Okay. So, help me out here, as it seems to be working for you guys, oddly enough. I'm just not following.

My 5R is SATURN. (02° LIB). My 11R is MOON. (24° SCO). What do I do with this? His is JUPITER (18° CAP) and MERCURY (15° SAG), respectively, BTW.

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Okay, per tgem, (and you want 'coincidental', not 'ironic' ), let's see.

My 7R is NEPTUNE.

It's 8° off his SUN, which is IN his 11H, but his 11R is actually JUPITER in the 12H.

My 11R is the MOON.

It's on his MC, on the 10H side, so, angular; not 7H related. Making no aspect to his 11R, or 7R.

Our 7Rs are widely conjunct, however.

So, his 7R is the SUN.

I can already tell you it's in my 4H.

His 11R is, again, JUPITER.

That's in my 5H, square my SUN 1°.

Maybe I did it correctly that time?

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I think the 11th house is more important than we give it credit for in terms of relationships and expressing and receiving love, but I don`t think it is tf-specific.

Yup.
In Vedic astrology its also the house of wishes/wish fullfillment and gains.
So perhaps in synastry it can show how one is the answer to your inner wishes, and how they fulfill them?

Kind of reminds me of the Vertex in a way...
Vertex also has a Uranian/electric/unusual type of feel

But I do have to say I wasn't wishing for anything romantic/soulmatey prior to coming across him.
He just sort of happened to "pop into" my life randomly, out of nowhere and then began the journey of transformation and revelation after revelation...

Yet now it does feel like HE is the answer... If that makes sense.

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Which means your 11th ruler in transit (at the the time of potential twin soul birth) must be conjunct your natal 7th ruler. With your 7th ruler in transit (at the time of your potential twin soul birth) conjunct to your 11th ruler.

....copied this post from the other TF thread. This is an interesting concept and I recommend experimenting with it to see if it holds true. Shockingly, when I typed in the transits that were occurring on the Cusp's birthday and applied them to my natal chart, it FITS! And the same applies to him! Now, I totally see why we have the Mars/Saturn Connection!!!!

Let me know if this method works for you guys!! 😳


That's very interesting, Tgem!

Checking mine now...


EDIT:
Ok, so at the time of my birth, his Tr. 11th house ruler (Moon) was conjunct his natal 7th house co-ruler (Jupiter) 2°, and opposite his 7th house modern ruler (Neptune) 1°

Wow. lol

But this is happening on his end only.
My Tr 11th/7th house rulers on his birthday don't aspect my natal 11th/7th house rulers. .

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So, the date I got was 2 December 1967.

Interestingly, it's double Sag.

My costar is '67 born, but June. And, as we know, Fate's double Sag.

I guess this is the method which 'works', since it's jiving for you guys? It isn't for me.

Does this mean iQ was mistaken? I'd hate to question his expertise. I'm just doing so as it keeps checking out for you guys. Which surprises me. A lot.

If THAT's the case, and I don't even know my Twin Flame, I also REALLY don't know what I'm doing here. Anywhere. Anymore.

It's been a very aimless, aggravating, confusing past few days. Arguably longer.

Strange. Such a simple method. Does this make Fate a precursor? Something that indicates what I SHOULD expect to see?

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Hang on.

Why is Coffee assuming everyone has a Twin Flame? That isn't correct. The very premise is false. What is he basing this off of? Is it coincidental or valid?

This is very perplexing. NOT coming at a good time, either for me.

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
That's very interesting, Tgem!

Checking mine now...


EDIT:
Ok, so at the time of my birth, his Tr. 11th house ruler (Moon) was conjunct his natal 7th house co-ruler (Jupiter) 2°, and opposite his 7th house modern ruler (Neptune) 1°

Wow. lol


Isn't it a lot easier to say that their 7R is conjunct your 11R and vice versa?

Incidentally, when you run it in your chart, do you get his birth date?

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Isn't it a lot easier to say that their 7R is conjunct your 11R and vice versa?

Incidentally, when you run it in your chart, do you get his birth date?


No his 7th house ruler isnt conjunct my 11th house ruler.

It was HIS Tr. 11th house ruler (Tr. Moon) on my birthday (which would be natal Moon) that was conjunct his natal 7th house co-ruler (Jupiter).

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