posted July 05, 2014 02:54 AM            

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Originally posted by MorpHnStorM:
Aww, thank you for sharing this beautiful message, Gabby. A beautiful message from a beautiful soul.

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posted July 05, 2014 07:27 AM              

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:

Thank God that everything started raging against me as I sought to cut the cord. I can't even describe that experience. It was horrifying. If there were ever anything that centred to a single point to emphasise that I was doing something WRONG -- it was that.

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I once tried to cut the cord with my guardian soulmate, the other P in my soul`s life ,
I was really trying to. It felt all kinds of WRONG. It felt like I was trying to cut out my own heart with a blunt knife. It PHYSICALLY hurt.
I heard a voice (from inside me?) shouting at me: "What are you trying to do there? Don`t you know this CANNOT be done?"
I still continued, thinking I had to go just this step further, just one more step, enduring the knowledge it was wrong, enduring the pain, and then it would be okay.

Well, and then ther ewas actually a storm erupting within my apartment. I mean it like some sort of energetic tornado, hurricane, whirlstorm whatever, and it startled me so much, that i instantly stopped doing that, fled into my sleeping room and hid beneath the covers for the rest of the night. lol

a few weeks after that I coincidentally ran into him. Now understand, he is a performer, but I did not meet him because he was the one giving the concert, but actually he was in the audience. It was just one big coincidence. (well, he would be some sort of mystery guest and later on singnig one song, just one, I remember it well, its title was "Lucky day". lol).

I didn`t even notice at first, but before the concert started, I was having my nose in an astro book (the one by Blashke) and reading while waiting for the concert to begin, when I felt this tingle of electricity that usually denotes I am being looked at. Just this time it was so much stronger, all my hairs stood on end all at once.
So I looked up and saw him standing less than a metre from me, looking at me.
We didn`t talk, we just looked at each other for a minute or so. and during this time, while looking at him, I simultaneously saw ourselves racing back through time, right through so many ages, which were speeding away in front of my inner eye, and actually even the image of the sky was changed at certain points, as if I wasn`t even looking up on it from the perpsective of earth, as it currently is. It felt like overviewing in a millisecond everything we were, though I was not conscious of all of it, right back to the beginning of time.
It was weird, and I was looking at him and I remember that crystalclear thought in me: "He knows."
What he knows I still have no clue.

And actually I think we both decided at the same time to go into separate directions (though it turned out he was sat just opposite the aisle from me. lol)

It was such a strange bizarre moment. But I felt in this moment that, THIS was the moment (I never knew I had been waiting for), this was why it all had been worth it, EVERYTHING, focused in this moment was the crystallization of every awareness, every knowledge, every understanding (which I can`t grasp with my rational mind even now), and I knew then, that it would not be alright, it already WAS alright, and that everything happened for a reason, had a pruprose, even if I did not understand. I would know, I would understand when I was ready to do so, when the time had come, and I had to learn to TRUST that. Not trying to speed it up, relax, go with the flow, trust that it will be alright. That I was on the right path, I would not be misguided, maybe my mind would be, but not the understanding in my soul.

And in this moment all my suffering about him or my ideas of what we could have been, should have been was resolved. It simplyf ell away. Everything. The pain that I had been clinging to for over a decade. Just one moment, one look, and it was resolved. Just like that. So simple.

Maybe you will laugh but the concert I was visiting (another karmic something) had the title: "No frontiers".

21st october 2007.

It was just 3 months before, that I had a one-to-one-talk with my inner Self, very honest, and not flattering to me at all, but that inner-talk (15th july) it led to me changing my ways, because I HAD to. And Iwas so so homesick, I did not want to keep myself away from where I jsut felt I had to go anylonger.

The first step was that it brought me to that chance encounter.
And funny enough just a few months later, this P sort of "shoved" me into Mr Sag`s path or the other way round.
Just by the coincidence that i was planning to see a concert of P, which he had to cancel unfortunately, but interestingly Mr Sag was on that concert, too, and it was the 2nd time I saw him, but it was THIS time that aprently some switch was triggered within me.

And probably only BeCAUSE I had started that way before, I was open enough to allow something to take place in me.

posted July 05, 2014 10:35 AM              

There may be a (limited in time) period of purging, cleansing, pain of "how to get together" etc., but this is not the ESSENCE of the Twin Flame Reunion. The essence of the Twin Flame Reunion is, as it seems logical to me.....the REUNION, the tangible relationship itself.

Wiki:

A Twin Flame is a spiritual (esoteric or New Age) concept describing a special soul connection between two souls. The Twin Flames are thought to be a template for an ancient/eternal type of relationship between lovers.

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According to the mythology of Twin Flames, in the beginning of time we were created from one source, that was split into smaller and smaller units down to two souls (and on rare occasions, halves of one soul) that would journey to Earth to learn and experience duality. They would reincarnate over lifetimes with this longing for each other, often meeting until, they would reunite and then leave this physical plane as one.

Plato

The first mention of what has been later interpreted to be a description of Twin Flames comes from Plato:

In his dialogue The Symposium, Plato has Aristophanes present a story about soul mates. Aristophanes states that humans originally had four arms, four legs, and a single head made of two faces. He continues that there were three genders: man, woman and the "Androgynous". Each with two sets of genitalia with the Androgynous having both male and female genitalia. The men were children of the sun, the women were children of the earth and the Androgynous were children of the moon, which was born of the sun and earth. It is said that humans had great strength at the time and threatened to conquer the gods. The gods were then faced with the prospect of destroying the humans with lightning as they had done with the Titans but then they would lose the tributes given to the gods by humans. Zeus developed a creative solution by splitting humans in half as punishment for humanity's pride and doubling the number of humans who would give tribute to the gods. These split humans were in utter misery to the point where they would not eat and would perish so Apollo had sewn them up and reconstituted their bodies with the navel being the only remnant harkening back to their original form. It is said that when the two find each other, there is an unspoken understanding of one another, that they feel unified and would lay with each other in unity and would know no greater joy than that.[2]

posted July 05, 2014 10:38 AM              

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Hu4ULcj-m8

just because I love his singing

posted July 06, 2014 09:26 PM            

His 5th H. NN saggy@16.27
Mine 5th H. NN gemini@15.30
Isn't that odd??

His 5th Harmonic Sun virgo@18.04
My natal Moon virgo@18.32

His 5th Adonis cap@19.23
My natal Innanen virgo@19.58
My natal Ishtar scorp@18.36

My 5th Adonis taurus@14.47
His 5th Ishtar taurus@14.26
My natal Adonis scorp@15.09
His natal Ishtar scorp@14.53

His 5th Moon leo@25.30
My 5th Sun leo@22.22
His natal Vertex leo@21.12
My natal NN scorp@21.44

My 5th H Moon leo@2.59
His natal Sun taurus@3.59
My 5th H. DC taurus@5.25

My natal Saturn leo@2.50
His 5th Neptune leo@1.05

His 5th H Pluto virgo@5.36
My 5th H Persephone taurus@6.04
My natal Uranus scorp@4.44
His 5th H Jupiter pisces@3.50

His 5th Mars aqua@18.37 & Valentine aqua@17.06
My natal Venus libra@19.02

My 5th H. Mars cap@5.19
His natal Venus gemini@4.04

His 5th H. Eros aries@12.42
My natal Psyche gemini@15-16

His 5th H. Psyche cancer@10.50
My natal Eros cap@9.50
His natal Valentine cap@9.20
My natal Valentine cap@9.50
His 5th H. Venus cap@7.46
My 5th H. Venus cap@5.19

My 5th H Psyche aries@17.23
His natal Psyche aries@19.02
My 5th H Valentine aries@20.00
My natal Vertex aries@21.26
His natal Eros cap@20.09

My 5th H Pluto scorp@25.05
His natal Prosperpina scorp@25.43
His natal Venus taurus@25.33

His natal Pluto virgo@25.33
My 5th Prosperpina virgo@25.23
My 5th Neptune virgo@26.15

My 5th H Uranus pisces@23.41
His natal Juno pisces@26.18

My 5th Vertex cancer@16.59
His natal DC cancer@13.59

My 5th MC is leo@9.59
His natal IC is taurus@9.00

His 5th Uranus libra@28.10
My 5th Mars gemini@27.46
My natal Mars gemini@29.33

My 5th Osiris saggy @23.23
His 5th Isis libra@26.03

His 5th Jupiter pisces@3.50
My 5th Juno cancer@2.31

His 5th Aphrodite pisces@18.23
My 5th Adonis taurus@15.48

My natal Sita libra@16.41
His 5th Raman aries@19.14

posted July 06, 2014 09:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

I once tried to cut the cord with my guardian soulmate, the other P in my soul`s life ,
I was really trying to. It felt all kinds of WRONG. It felt like I was trying to cut out my own heart with a blunt knife. It PHYSICALLY hurt.

I heard a voice (from inside me?) shouting at me: "What are you trying to do there? Don`t you know this CANNOT be done?"

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Man, I've been there.

He would literally 'shout' in my head as I tried to sleep. Not even joking. I'd drift off, and then he'd SHOUT my name. I remember my husband (fiancé then) asking what was up. (He was playing poker professionally then, so, gone for 12+ hours a day; we'd sleep at odd hours.)

Once I was so frustrated, I just snapped, 'the NOT Angel of Music is shouting NOT songs -- IN MY HEAD!'

I remember he apologised. He 'didn't recall it, but then his subconscious was known to getting into trouble, so he'd be more mindful.'

It didn't really stop. Not until I just accepted it -- and finally approached a real relationship. Then no more shouting. Or flickering lights, either.

posted July 06, 2014 09:56 PM            

My natal Psyche gemini@15.28
His 5th Soulie saggy@15.55
His natal Soulie libra@15.11

posted July 06, 2014 11:01 PM            

For myself, looking back, the ones that idealized me most were the ones that annoyed me most, the ones that wakened my aversion to a big degree. This is no fear, but simply an understanding of the lack of their insight into life itself, reality.

Could there be a link with the TF concept here ^^ ?

posted July 07, 2014 01:30 AM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
What do you make of H5 charts, Gabby? I've not explored them.

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I'm really not sure what to think of them...I would like to find a book about the harmonics because their just isn't much on the net about how they manifest in the chart owners life.

posted July 07, 2014 01:36 AM            

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Originally posted by mir:
Idealizing. Wouldn't it be frightening if someone would put you on a pedestal? Like you were a Goddess? Would that be acceptable? I think we would jump on the first train home.

For myself, looking back, the ones that idealized me most were the ones that annoyed me most, the ones that wakened my aversion to a big degree. This is no fear, but simply an understanding of the lack of their insight into life itself, reality.

Could there be a link with the TF concept here ^^ ?

Or am I just talking crap? Uranian nature? Beyond words? Nature of the fixed? (signs)

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I think at first is would be hard to be put on a pedestal but if you can push through the initial fear of it and allow yourself to still grow attached I think eventually it would be heaven!

posted July 07, 2014 01:59 AM            

Have you ever ballroom danced? I used to be rather versed in it. Partner-dancing is an incredible fusion of independence in literal motion. Both dancers must have skill and awareness; they're paying attention to the direction, steps, and pacing. You have to. You also have to simply be confident in your partner's ability to perform the steps, keep the time, and, somehow, create a rhythm with you that's moving art. Even the most structured, orderly, and ostensibly 'rigid' -- the Venetian waltz -- requires the same underlying fluidity.

A Twin Flame relationship or connexion is a lot like that. You don't become an incredible dancer by only practising with your Twin. Your abilities improve with each exercise you do, each dance you learn -- each style you add into your repertoire.

With each partner you take, you learn more.

Some are wonderful, some are unskilled -- but still a worthwhile experience -- some are so focussed upon their own performance -- putting on a show -- they're too self-obsessed and ego-driven to even dance -- and you can see it in the performance.

So, is it as easy as learning the moves and dancing with someone as strong of a dancer as you are?

That's why we get rated on technique, style, and experience.

Dancing with someone who's as technically strong as you will allow you to get all the steps down, and perform the dance satisfactorily. You'll sweep the floor, amazing the audience with skill and ability.

But it'll lack something. Heart and soul. THAT's what makes the difference between incredible dancing partners, and those who are simply able to perform perfectly.

The Twin Flame connexion is something extraordinary. It's the experience of two excellent dancers coming together for the first time, creating a mutual rhythm and reciprocity, mirroring, the likes of which can only come from dancing together before -- many, MANY times.

Magic is made. There's a powerful energy which results from that inexplicable sympatico. Experience, skill, soul, and spirit is made manifest, here, in reality. You can't even believe it's real unless you see it. Then -- you can never forget it.

Now. How do you get there? Practise. Experience. Becoming a damned good dancer -- on your own. That's what they're supposed to be doing. Even if they're not -- it's still YOUR responsibility, as one part of this whole, to be the BEST dancer you can be.

The heart, soul, and spirit comes from that beautiful intersection of experience, wisdom, technique -- and love. Love of the art, the music, the dance itself. And, yes, your partner.

posted July 07, 2014 08:15 AM              

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Aww I wrote such a long response for you Leeloo but my iPad ran out of charge and it all got erased!!! ((((
Sigh... oh well

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Aahhhhh noooo I want to see, please rewrite!!

posted July 07, 2014 08:18 AM              

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Originally posted by mir:
Idealizing. Wouldn't it be frightening if someone would put you on a pedestal? Like you were a Goddess? Would that be acceptable? I think we would jump on the first train home.

For myself, looking back, the ones that idealized me most were the ones that annoyed me most, the ones that wakened my aversion to a big degree. This is no fear, but simply an understanding of the lack of their insight into life itself, reality.

Could there be a link with the TF concept here ^^ ?

Or am I just talking crap? Uranian nature? Beyond words? Nature of the fixed? (signs)

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Naaahhh! I'm a Goddess, I don't mind. It's the natural state of things for me, to be worshiped

posted July 07, 2014 08:30 AM              

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Hmm. Maybe you misunderstand the experience, Lee. It's hardly one-sided, but it IS very individualised.

Have you ever ballroom danced? I used to be rather versed in it. Partner-dancing is an incredible fusion of independence in literal motion. Both dancers must have skill and awareness; they're paying attention to the direction, steps, and pacing. You have to. You also have to simply be confident in your partner's ability to perform the steps, keep the time, and, somehow, create a rhythm with you that's moving art. Even the most structured, orderly, and ostensibly 'rigid' -- the Venetian waltz -- requires the same underlying fluidity.

A Twin Flame relationship or connexion is a lot like that. You don't become an incredible dancer by only practising with your Twin. Your abilities improve with each exercise you do, each dance you learn -- each style you add into your repertoire.

With each partner you take, you learn more.

Some are wonderful, some are unskilled -- but still a worthwhile experience -- some are so focussed upon their own performance -- putting on a show -- they're too self-obsessed and ego-driven to even dance -- and you can see it in the performance.

So, is it as easy as learning the moves and dancing with someone as strong of a dancer as you are?

That's why we get rated on technique, style, and experience.

Dancing with someone who's as technically strong as you will allow you to get all the steps down, and perform the dance satisfactorily. You'll sweep the floor, amazing the audience with skill and ability.

But it'll lack something. Heart and soul. THAT's what makes the difference between incredible dancing partners, and those who are simply able to perform perfectly.

The Twin Flame connexion is something extraordinary. It's the experience of two excellent dancers coming together for the first time, creating a mutual rhythm and reciprocity, mirroring, the likes of which can only come from dancing together before -- many, MANY times.

Magic is made. There's a powerful energy which results from that inexplicable sympatico. Experience, skill, soul, and spirit is made manifest, here, in reality. You can't even believe it's real unless you see it. Then -- you can never forget it.

Now. How do you get there? Practise. Experience. Becoming a damned good dancer -- on your own. That's what they're supposed to be doing. Even if they're not -- it's still YOUR responsibility, as one part of this whole, to be the BEST dancer you can be.

The heart, soul, and spirit comes from that beautiful intersection of experience, wisdom, technique -- and love. Love of the art, the music, the dance itself. And, yes, your partner.

How very Libran of me.

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Beautiful post, Indigo, and you're a very gifted writer.

But most people here describe one-sided love interests.
Your "Twin" is no longer connected to you either, as far as you told us, so maybe it has become one-sided. How do you know for sure it's not? I'm talking tangible proofs here.

Personally, I was hoping we would discuss on this thread known or suspected Twin Flame cases, Twin Flame astrological markers and famous unrequited cases (for example, I wanted for us to discuss the synastry of Pablo Picasso and Dora Maar). Not our personal love life, unless someone believes his current relationship is their Twinflame. Or that they think they met their Twinflame and are preparing to change their lives to be with them (previous relationships included) and somehow they stumbled on this forum for support/astrology. Or that they have lived with their Twinflame, but he/she has left this world before them.

Suspected Twinflames (like Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward, and others not that famous I wanted for us to discuss here) left their previous lives and relationships to be together. Mutually, of course.

This is what Twinflames reportedly do.

posted July 07, 2014 08:49 AM              

Probably what most people today understand as twin souls, would rather fit Cayce?s definition of soulmates.

But anyway, another example were Sri Aurobindo and the Mother, who were twin souls by their own understanding, and not involved romantically either.

posted July 07, 2014 08:51 AM              

Or how my own inner voice insists on calling: "the one my soul loves most deeply" (no clue where that statement came from, it was suddenly there, a few months ago: the one my soul loves most or deepest. lol)

oh btw just as a random irrelevant note, but I met Jesus yesterday.
Seriously, though my aunt sais she was reminded more of an Indian Guru or Yogi.
When we were at the farm to buy some cake, a man came in to bring back an empty bottle of milk. And he was relatively tall, had a black beard and dark medium long hair (like Jesus on the paintings, just the dark version) and was wearing a long white gown, as it looked like. lol

posted July 07, 2014 09:00 AM              

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Venus square Neptune rage activated

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posted July 07, 2014 09:06 AM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Personally I have come to ascribe more to the term, Michael Newton uses in his book and the understanding of it, of "primary soulmates", though it might actually be close in manifestation to twinsouls.

Or how my own inner voice insists on calling: "the one my soul loves most deeply" (no clue where that statement came from, it was suddenly there, a few months ago: the one my soul loves most or deepest. lol)

oh btw just as a random irrelevant note, but I met Jesus yesterday.
Seriously, though my aunt sais she was reminded more of an Indian Guru or Yogi.
When we were at the farm to buy some cake, a man came in to bring back an empty bottle of milk. And he was relatively tall, had a black beard and dark medium long hair (like Jesus on the paintings, just the dark version) and was wearing a long white gown, as it looked like. lol

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That's so cool, Ceri. To be honest, if I have a bias, it's towards you (I'm not kidding). I have faith in everything you say, I don't know why, no matter how "crazy" it sounds sometimes (don't get angry, I say seemingly crazy things too and I definitely have "crazy" experiences), it's like there's something true and pure in your experiences. Maybe not what you or I expect, but it's there.

posted July 07, 2014 09:10 AM              

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

I want my Twins!

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No you want the ultimate romantic love

(sorry I do not want to sound as if I know what you want. But it sounds like it to me. the ultimate romantic other. Is it the same as the twin? I am nto sure)