posted June 28, 2014 08:20 AM              

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Originally posted by Enneline:
Hey, even I talk about FEELINGS instead of SEX It's seldom in my case but it does happen

So, where's the dealbreaker: the missing connections to my luminaries or venus/Pluto stuff? and his feelings for me?

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posted June 28, 2014 08:23 AM              

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Originally posted by Enneline:
I never said that

No, sorry, I meant that you might learn to believe that someone loves you dearly. That's healing. And who says that you would not find out about your feelings for him?

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posted June 28, 2014 08:24 AM              

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

Yes, I think it's the Venus/Pluto stuff.
I think I have an answer to your question, regarding his feelings, but I have to ask you this: were you lovers? were you good friends? are you still friends?

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posted June 28, 2014 08:26 AM              

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Originally posted by Enneline:
first i was his client, later we became good friends but we never kissed or something

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posted June 28, 2014 08:26 AM              

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
It's OK Neither of us is a native in English Maybe I'll get back to my German lessons (you wish! hehehe lovely tough language)

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Yes, I am able understand almost everything written in English but sometimes I find it hard to express myself in English

posted June 28, 2014 08:28 AM              

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
And you're no longer good friends and this hurts you?

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posted June 28, 2014 08:31 AM              

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Originally posted by Enneline:
Yes, I am able understand almost everything written in English but sometimes I find it hard to express myself in English

I've heard that German sounds unfriendly, hard and bossy

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It's a very intelligent language, IMO. So is English.

posted June 28, 2014 08:38 AM              

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Originally posted by Enneline:
No we are no friends any longer and no it does not hurt me. I am really ok. But I still want to explore what happend and WHY it happened.
I want to leard the lesson and absolutely not willing to find myself in those kind of Situation ever again

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To be honest, Enneline, this is what I think happened (just a guess): he is a man who needed a lot of time to accept he is gay and come forward. Since you tell me now he said he is gay because he was hurt in his marriage, it means even now he doesn't fully accept it.

When it comes to you and your relationship, he most likely felt and saw you have strong feelings for him. Because he wanted to live and accept his sexuality, it makes sense to cut the ties with someone feeling the way you felt, a woman. It was easier for him; it may have even been an act of love and fairness to you, knowing he can't reciprocate your feelings.

posted June 28, 2014 08:39 AM              

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
It's a very intelligent language, IMO. So is English.

Well, German is not exactly melodious, but who says everything should be sweat and flowing? Maybe it reflects the German spirit: hard-working, stoic, heroic, stable, constructive etc. Still, a lot of ethnic cliches here But I love ethnic psychology.

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wow, i love ethnic psychology, too!

posted June 28, 2014 08:42 AM              

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
When it comes to you and your relationship, he most likely felt and saw you have strong feelings for him.

The last thing a man struggling with his homosexuality needs is to keep in contact with a woman who's in love with him. Do you see this?

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Hahaha...he said that he never realized my feelings

posted June 28, 2014 08:56 AM              

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Originally posted by Enneline:
wow, i love ethnic psychology, too!

What I really dislike within the German mentality is that "it has to be like that and it must be like that!"-attitude. Aargh....They would senselessly shut a road because there's a command for doing so. In the worst case "I need to shoot you; sorry, I have no choice. It's the command of my boss."
Sorry, no offense to anyone. It's a nasty cliche you sometimes find to be true when living in Germany

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posted June 28, 2014 08:58 AM              

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Originally posted by Enneline:
Hahaha...he said that he never realized my feelings

No, it was me who cut the ties but he never did anything to avoid that.

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I see. Well, his feelings could have been only those of friendship, due to his sexual orientation. IMO, there's no genuine bisexuality in this case. But you seem to have been in love with him. And looking at that Pluto opp and the whole config, I think obsession played a big role here??? I think you experienced the Venus/Pluto opp in this relationship.

posted June 28, 2014 09:03 AM              

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
lol following orders, yes....it can go to extremes. On the other hand, without following the law, there's no justice and no modern society.

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Christoph Waltz perfectly embodies the German stereotype: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUZv6bn7Hwg

posted June 28, 2014 09:07 AM              

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
And looking at that Pluto opp and the whole config, I think obsession played a big role here??? I think you experienced the Venus/Pluto opp in this relationship.

But if you are to be friends, you would be very good friends Maybe this will happen.

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Yes, absolutely. But I also experienced a lot of spiritual healing due to encountering him. That's another reason I sticked on it

posted June 28, 2014 09:10 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Thank you for posting this, Karmic Moon. I love your Anteros aspects with Jupiter and Ceres; very nurturing, taking care of each other, giving back love in tangible, joyous ways.

Currently, I have some significant Anteros aspects too (in synastry) among which Eros opposite Anteros - what do you think about this one?? I consider it a natural aspect for Eros and Anteros to be. Also, Chiron conjunct Anteros - this is a tougher one, at least at first, I guess it could be very healing too. The good news is (which makes me think it's about healing after all) is that we have Composite Sun conjunct Anteros (2) in the 7th.

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Those are beautiful placements LeeLoo. Eros oppose Anteros, a perfect balance of giving and receiving love. Chiron conjunct Anteros, when the Anteros person returns the love of Chiron, healing will occur? In a previous life love was unrequitted creating a wound? One that will be healed when love is returned in this life?Sun cj Anteros in the 7th needs no explaination!

So LeeLoo, is this your possible TF? You haven't said whether you suspect someone might be or not?

What do you think about including pairings like Eros/Anteros and Aphrodite/Anteros as a type of "soulmate bond". They aren't lovers but family. Either invoking a close, familiar feeling or representing past lifes as possible family members together. His Adonis conjuncts my Aphrodite on the other side, a love connection and family connection. I have found what I consider a large amount of mythological pairings in our synastry.

I'll play devils advocate here a bit. We all look to astrology for answers. We probably all have good synastry and composites with these people. We've seen earlier in the thread that good synastry can't always make a relationship. Have you ever looked at someones chart and seen connections they might make with your SM or TF and then wonder if it might just be a coincidence? I guess what I am getting at is what puts the synastry into action? Maybe thats what we should be looking for.

posted June 28, 2014 09:11 AM              

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
lol I love these ethnic psychology discussion. I'm fascinated with German, outstanding I must say.

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Why?

posted June 28, 2014 09:14 AM              

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Ceri, I hope you are feeling better

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As a matter of fact, now I am. But don`t ask me about last night.

Woke up with a start at 1:23. I kid you not, the sequence looked almost like a countdown (or countup for that matter).

Some weird feelings, which I usually contribute to, I donīt know, paranoia, night-fear or whatever.
However this morning it turned out that a very heavy vase for flowers in our garden has been suddenly lying on the ground. It is real heavy, you need to really push against it to make it tumble. So who knows maybe I was being awoken by the noise of it? No clue.
Just hope it is dealt with for now.

But now and then I am waking up in these "weird states of mind". This night I was actually waking up in the middle of a sentence I said, and apparently said it to Anubis.
so okay, seems i am in nightly conversations with the God of the dead. Umph, never mind.
Perfectly sane here.
If it is not the riders of the apocalypse, it is Anubis. Okay.

posted June 28, 2014 09:17 AM              

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Originally posted by Enneline:
wow, i love ethnic psychology, too!

What I really dislike within the German mentality is that "it has to be like that and it must be like that!"-attitude. Aargh....They would senselessly shut a road because there's a command for doing so. In the worst case "I need to shoot you; sorry, I have no choice. It's the command of my boss."
Sorry, no offense to anyone. It's a nasty cliche you sometimes find to be true when living in Germany

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posted June 28, 2014 09:19 AM              

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Originally posted by Enneline:
Christoph Waltz perfectly embodies the German stereotype: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUZv6bn7Hwg

And what's the Romanian cliche?

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Yeah, interesting seeing how he`s from Austria.

posted June 28, 2014 09:23 AM              

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Originally posted by Enneline:
Why?

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Because it's unique, edgy, out-of-the-box fascinating.

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And what's the French cliche? That you guys drink a lot of wine and make a lot of love?

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There's that, but I don't know, I'm not french .