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Gabby
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posted June 27, 2014 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Gabby, great post, thank you for your post, that s exactly it!

Thank you!

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posted June 27, 2014 04:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
according to astrotheme.com my mars does aspect his Chart

Yeah, maybe he's just gay but hey, he is not the first bisexual i was attracted to and he would not have been the first bisexual feeling attracted to me. What in my Chart could indicate that weird stuff?

Others found our synastry quite poor. They said attraction would lack since aries and cancer don't match well

mars semisextile mars (28 degree)

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posted June 27, 2014 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Selene:
I am not so sure of that. I am not even sure that romance as we know it, really means something to our spiritual selves. Love, on the contrary, may come in various forms and places. Lately i have been thinking that it is our lesson to learn to give and receive love unconditionally. Only then can our souls truly grow. And for that reason you can get a lesson hard way - when your primary soulmate is not giving you the kind of love you want to receive, but you still love him or her. It is like... you want him to be happy even if being happy for him in this lifetime means to be with somebody else and to have you only as a dear friend. But for one thing i am sure - there is always a soul affinity between these two people, who are primary soulmates. Be it a lover, colleague or friend. I don't think that they can ever dislike or hate each other no matter what happens. You can dislike each others actions or opinions but you always stay tuned to be there for each other when necessary.

Correct, Selene -- unconditional love is the lesson; the ultimate goal.

I'm certainly learning that a lot we think about Twin Flames is wrong, though. We tend to define it within the context of love and romance, too. Honestly, I think that's terribly misleading. It's not so cut-and-dried. And using the 'litmus tests' we do -- largely based in feeling are going to yield many false positives; namely, soulmates and karmic partners of varying degree.

It's not about feeling but experience for me. I finally came to accept my Twin based on a combined experience that was truly otherworldly and WAY outside of my scope of understanding.

The 'feeling' part followed the standard format of infatuation, friendship and attachment -- typical fare for any long-term relationship. It's what happened AFTER that caused me to consider the legitimate potential he is, in fact, my Twin Flame.

Now I've accepted that fact. Only took me four months. Not bad, considering. (Okay, I'd been CONSIDERING it since he called me his soulmate in 2007 and I researched Twin Flames for our project. So ... only 7 years. Not bad, right?)

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posted June 27, 2014 04:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
If not...then it's just like in the song:

"Meeting the man of my dreams and then meeting his beautiful wife"


I absolutely love 'Ironic'!

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posted June 27, 2014 04:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Enneline:
according to astrotheme.com my mars does aspect his Chart

Yeah, maybe he's just gay but hey, he is not the first bisexual i was attracted to and he would not have been the first bisexual feeling attracted to me. What in my Chart could indicate that weird stuff?

Others found our synastry quite poor. They said attraction would lack since aries and cancer don't match well

mars semisextile mars (28 degree)


In your case, I strongly disagree with the incompatibility between your Sun/Moons here.

Apart from the fact that your luminaries form a closed Cardinal cross - all 4 of them - they include Sun/Moon conjunction, Sun/Moon opp - this normally is an attraction and feeling of completeness almost overwhelming (I think the gender was the issue here, from what you're telling).


Apart from that:

You may have Sun in Cancer, but you have Moon in Aries (last deg); he has Sun/Mercury in Aries (last deg - this is combined with Taurus Mars energy)) Moon in Capricorn.

You also have: Sun in 1st house (Aries)
He has Sun in 7th house (Libra) = another match here on Aries/Libra axis (still cardinal) - and your Sun house matches his Sun sign, and his Moon in your 7th

Your Moon is in the 10th (Capricorn), his Moon is in the 4th (Cancer)


There are layers and layers of compatibility between the luminaries in this synastry.


And the same happens with Venus and Mars if you look for it and probably other planets as well


I'll have to think about your other question.

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posted June 27, 2014 04:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
In your case, I strongly disagree with the incompatibility between your Sun/Moons here.

Apart from the fact that your luminaries form a closed Cardinal cross - all 4 of them - they include Sun/Moon conjunction, Sun/Moon opp - this normally is an attraction and feeling of completeness almost overwhelming (I think the gender was the issue here, from what you're telling).


Apart from that:

You may have Sun in Cancer, but you have Moon in Aries (last deg); he has Sun/Mercury in Aries (last deg - this is combined with Taurus Mars energy)) Moon in Capricorn.

You also have: Sun in 1st house (Aries)
He has Sun in 7th house (Libra)


another match here on Aries/Libra axis (still cardinal) - and your Sun house matches his Sun sign, and his Moon in your 7th

Your Moon is in the 10th (Capricorn), his Moon is in the 4th (Cancer)


There are layers and layers if compatibility between the luminaries in this synastry.


And the same happens with Venus and Mars if you look for it and probably other planets as well


Yes but I can't get the basic incompabilites out of my mind:
moon square moon
sun square sun
venus square venus

But i would like to know from a thirdpParty: what could indicate that I was far more into him than he was ever to me

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posted June 27, 2014 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
But I think before meeting the actual Twin, we meet holograms of him/her, who look like him, and trigger in us the activation of the idea that maybe there is a twin after all. What do you think about this idea?

I think, being a creative professional, I actually created these 'hologrammes'. Each 'incarnation' of a character in each project, always having the same 'essence'.

Then, when he came along and plucked said character essence out of my head unbidden, but was creating his idealised image ... the essence of himself -- that's when something of me knew. Even if I couldn't accept it. Yet.

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posted June 27, 2014 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
But you agree that it has to be mutual...the love!?

I also believe that love, the love they feel, is so overwhelming, like a Moon/Pluto conjunction of sorts combined with Venus/Neptune Moon/Venus...actually all the love aspects there at once. But the mutual longing and loving is excruciating (sometimes you need to make a conscious effort not to think of the person in order to live, if you think of them you feel that overwhelming wave) if they can't be together and it continues when they are together too, but like a celebration.

I also believe they feel at the same time, they are synchronized. I can't imagine meeting your TF in flesh and blood and not being in sync. It contradicts the TF concept.


I agree it's totally overwhelming....but that's part of the challenge. You must have the strength to handle it! That's what you must learn before the union can full blown manifest into life. If you can't handle it's power from just a meeting and momentary connections how would you handle it's power everyday day in and day out.

I'm only saying this because of a reality I came to awhile back that allowed me to let go without hurting or feeling like a piece of me was being ripped away.
When I was with my TF the energy was intoxicating, desperate, frantic, it felt like it had a mind of it's own, we were just along for the ride. So when we were just sitting there with no focus on doing something the energy would overwhelm us and neither of us knew exactly how to behave.
At times it made me nervous and I'd look for reasons why I felt something was off..I'd assume it was something I was sensing from him, something was not right, was he lying or something? If not why would I feel nervous?
The energies intensity created a lot of mistrust....what was actually going on is I wasn't, or we weren't prepared for the intensity and it terrified both if us. Even him just touching my back literally sent electricity through me. When we locked in our energy on each other ppl said it looked like someone had lit a Christmas tree.
How do you do deal with that much energy while your doing the dishes, taking out the trash or disagreeing with each other?
The answer is, you must be very very strong within yourself in order to grab the energy and focus it. Don't let it drag you around! If you can't do that your fears and overwhelmed insecurities will seep in between you n your TF and create a war.
That's why you must learn to trust and conquer your fears about each other alone, before you can merge into one safely, fears, mistrust and doubt are the weapons that destroy when you have such a powerful energy and bond.

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Ceridwen
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posted June 27, 2014 04:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Just -- zombified. Totally depleted. She said I needed to cleanse and shield.

We are experiencing the same here.
My mom and me I mean, though I feel emotionally stable and strong, I am currently very tired, and so is she.
And some other things (for me) tying together in semi-sleep-mode, made me aware that I neglected my shielding a little too much I think.
Just one of these times when I get this feeling of "Something`s up, out there, and it isn`t up to anything good." My yearly june-paranoia I guess. lol

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posted June 27, 2014 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted June 27, 2014 05:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Enneline:
Yes but I can't get the basic incompabilites out of my mind:
moon square moon
sun square sun
venus square venus

But i would like to know from a thirdpParty: what could indicate that I was far more into him than he was ever to me


awwww...no...because you're looking at them in isolation...you can't ignore the cross, the luminaries cross (involving all luminaries)...you can't have a cross without squares!

I agree venus square venus involved with Pluto there might have been a problem though. Maybe that's where the problem is - I mean, this is what shows the problem.

My dear, from what you're telling me I'm guessing this man is actually gay but needed time to accept this about himself. No matter how much he liked/loved you, once he was ready to accept the fact that he's actually gay, of course he excluded women (romantically) from his life: probably that's why he said: not another woman again. It has nothing to do with you


Do you have many gay/bisexual friends?

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posted June 27, 2014 05:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:


C'mon...it's a decent TF thread. Think about the others! Just kidding, Indigo

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
awwww...no...because you're looking at them in isolation...you can't ignore the cross, the luminaries cross (involving all luminaries)...you can't have a cross without squares!

I agree venus square venus involved with Pluto there might have been a problem though. Maybe that's where the problem is - I mean, this is what shows the problem.

My dear, from what you're telling me I'm guessing this man is actually gay but needed time to accept this about himself. No matter how much he liked/loved you, once he was ready to accept the fact that he's actually gay, of course he excluded women (romantically) from his life: probably that's why he said: not another woman again. It has nothing to do with you


Do you have many gay/bisexual friends?


well, i can see the Aura of a person and his Aura showed me and my friends who can see auras too (who partly never liked him and wanted me to move on) said he is not gay

He had 1 heterosexual relationship in his life only (with the mother of his kids) and he openly lives a gay life and is somehow proud of that. Even his parents know about. But he stated first that he is bi. Later he said he would never ever again hook up with a woman and said that it was a huge disappointment/shock to see his marriage fail.

Whatever! I really don't want him anymore
AND: Although I had a huge huge crush I always felt uncomfortable in his presence. It was somehow oppressive

No, I don't have many friends at all but sometime I used to have a gay friend/acquiantance around me. Actually my neighbour (60 years old and impotent) is gay

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posted June 27, 2014 05:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Enneline:
well, i can see the Aura of a person and his Aura showed me and my friends who can see auras too (who partly never liked him and wanted me to move on) said he is not gay

He had 1 heterosexual relationship in his life only (with the mother of his kids) and he openly lives a gay life and is somehow proud of that. Even his parents know about. But he stated first that he is bi. Later he said he would never ever again hook up with a woman and said that it was a huge disappointment/shock to see his marriage fail.

Whatever! I really don't want him anymore
AND: Although I had a huge huge crush I always felt uncomfortable in his presence. It was somehow oppressive

No, I don't have many friends at all but sometime I used to have a gay friend/acquiantance around me. Actually my neighbour (60 years old and impotent) is gay


Maybe he'll be a woman in the next life, you'll be a man and you'll finally meet. Just make sure you get it right this time

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Maybe he'll be a woman in the next life, you'll be a man and you'll finally meet. Just make sure you get it right this time

I don't want to come back to this f**** earth

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Originally posted by Enneline:
I don't want to come back to this f**** earth

Hey..it's rather interesting at least, right?

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:


my sentiments exactly, man!

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posted June 27, 2014 05:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK, here's my issue.

I believe in the TF concept, I do. And they say when you start believing, you're getting ready to meet your TF. But some stories on this forum scare the bejesus out of me, honestly. After all the struggle and a long way through darkness, life after life, and all that sweated evolution of my soul journey to meet him, what if I meet him and he runs away?

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posted June 27, 2014 05:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey, ladies, do gay twinflames intimidate you?

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
...journey to meet him, what if I meet him and he runs away?

That happened to me and I survived and I am quite happy today

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posted June 27, 2014 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

C'mon...it's a decent TF thread. Think about the others! Just kidding, Indigo


Hey, MY threads are awesome. Brilliant collaboration of brilliant minds. I'd never think otherwise!

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Originally posted by Enneline:
That happened to me and I survived and I am quite happy today

So you do believe he's your twin and the above question is serious?

Why do you think he's your twin?


BTW, maybe you felt intimidated because of the strong feelings you had, the power he had over you.

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posted June 27, 2014 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Tulipe:
my sentiments exactly, man!


*high five*

But hey, living in illusion can be entertaining

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
So you do believe he's your twin and the above question is serious?

Why do you think he's your twin?


BTW, maybe you felt intimidated because of the strong feelings you had, the power he had over you.


I don't know if he's my twin, but I do know that I know from past lives and a Psyche claimed that there is a strong rememblance between his Soul and my Soul, like twins.

And an Aries Moon can't stand that And his feelings towards me?

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I see a lot of intensity in these unions through the spiritual energy they bring to the surface, the power they bring out of each person involved...it's something that isn't easy to handle but yet very powerful! Powerfully destructive and inspiring fear through a lack of understanding or inspiring evolution into a new existence....
His Pluto virgo@25
His Venus taurus@25
His Juno pisces@26
His Vishnu pisces@25
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My Unitas cap@25
My Toro cap@25
My Vishnu cap@25
My Horus cancer@25
My Raphella cancer@25
My Vibhuti cancer@25
My Yeshuhua scorp@25
My Aura cancer@27
My Gaea cancer@27
My Excalibur virgo@26

Vibhuti can refer to glorious attributes of the divine, and in this context is translated as 'all pervading', 'superhuman power', 'wealth' and so on.

Vibhuti (powers) can refer to paranormal powers that some believe can be developed by yoga practices.
Vibhuti Pada

Patanjali in the Vibhuti Pada of the Yoga Sutras, mentions many different vibhutis:

* Knowledge of the past and future
* Understanding the sounds (language) of all beings
* Knowledge of previous existences
* Knowing the minds of others
* Invisibility
* Suspending the ability of the body to be heard, touched, tasted, or smelled
* Foreknowledge of the time of death
* Strength of any attitude (such as friendliness)
* Super strength (such as the strength of an elephant)
* Knowledge of subtle, hidden, remote things
* Knowledge of worlds, realms, universes, etc.
* Knowledge of the arrangement of stars, planets, etc.
* Knowledge of the movement of stars, planets, etc.
* Knowledge of the arrangement of systems in the body
* Freedom from hunger and thirst
* Attainment of steadiness or immobility
* Visions of Siddhas (perfected beings)
* Knowledge of anything and everything
* Knowledge of the mind
* Knowledge of pure consciousness (purusha)
* Psychic hearing, touch, vision, taste, and smell
* Entering and controlling the bodies of others
* Ability to float or walk on water, swamps, thorns, and other such objects
* Ability to glow or radiate light around the body
* Super hearing (hearing at vast distances)
* Ability to fly
* Mastery over the elements (earth, water, fire, air, space)
* Making the body atomically small, indestructible, perfect
* Perfection of the body in beauty, strength, grace, and brilliance
* Mastery over the senses
* Quickness of the mind, perception with the senses
* Supremacy over all states of existence, omnipotence
* Higher knowledge
* Discriminating knowledge
* Absolute freedom (kaivalyam)

" "Hare" can be interpreted as either the vocative of Hari, another name of Vishnu meaning "he who removes illusion", or as the vocative of Harā,[3] a name of Rādhā,[4] Krishna's eternal consort or Shakti. According to A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, Harā refers to "the energy of God" while Krishna and Rama refer to God himself, meaning "He who is All-Attractive" and "He who is the Source of All Pleasure".[5] "

So in other words, Hara would be the shakti (energy force) of Krishna.

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