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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 18711 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 23, 2014 04:45 PM
My Fourth Harmonic. [/URL] As far as I can see.
1) Grand crosses:
a) Mercury - Pallas - Amor - Saturn b) Juno - Uranus - Psyche - Pluto 2) T-square: Vesta-Moon - Ceres/Neptune/NN
3) Grand trine and Kite a) Grand trine Pluto-Pallas - Ceres/Neptune/NN b) Kite Pluto-pallas - Ceres/Neptune/NN to Psyche
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For the third Grand Cross a planet on 5-10 Cancer would be needed Venus is trine Mars, however the Grand trine is lacking a position at about 20-25 Leo.
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 18711 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 23, 2014 04:47 PM
cappy, I love that cradle in your 4th harmonic, Sun-Moon/Pluto-Uranus-Jupiter/Eros Juicy. unconventional. Soulful. Intense. Oh btw your Moon-Pluto falls right onto the right spot to complete a Grand trine with my Venus and Mars. lol
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I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 23, 2014 05:13 PM
Thanks But you realize it's a composite, right? Now I feel compelled to do 4H synastry with you, these patterns are apparently hypnotizing  Wait, is there a point to do synastry between harmonic charts in the first place? ------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
Lunae Knowflake Posts: 2251 From: Registered: Dec 2012
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posted July 23, 2014 07:34 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: The orbs are too large for the kite. Donīt forget, a sextile in the 5th harmonic chart is really the minor aspect of a 30th harmonic aspect. Would you really use an orb of 5 degress for a 30th harmonic aspect? (well most probably before looking at the 5th harmonic I would not even have noticed the 30th harmonic aspect at all. lol) the juicy Venus-Mars-opposition is very much in orb though. SExy.
Also the link between Sun-Pluto square Uranus-Neptune is fascinating, I think this might be one of the markposts of this composite, even if this is technically not a T-square. A relationship (Sun) that is marked by an otherworldly, almost mystical (uranus-Neptune), powerful enigmatic, hypnotic (Pluto) vibe, at least in terms of 5th harmonic.
I kinda forgot about that and used 6 deg for all lol That opposition also probably reflects our undeniable chemistry. It's effortless, doesn't need to be pushed. People think there's something going on between us when there's really not. Is that a 5th harmonic quality, too? IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 18711 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 24, 2014 05:01 AM
quote: Originally posted by I'm so cappy: Thanks But you realize it's a composite, right? Now I feel compelled to do 4H synastry with you, these patterns are apparently hypnotizing  Wait, is there a point to do synastry between harmonic charts in the first place?
lol no did not realize it was a composite, thought it was your natal. Yeah, of course there is a point doing harmonic synastry. just keep it to the comparision of the same harmonics. 4th to 4th, 5th to 5th for example.
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 18711 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 24, 2014 05:03 AM
Lunae,I think it might be a composite quality. Especially if either Venus or Mars is in outward-oriented houses, 7th, 10th, 11th for example. Then people will notice that chemistry. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 18711 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 24, 2014 06:57 AM
phew that was hard work! 4th harmonic composite: the Grand Crosses
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I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 24, 2014 07:05 AM
Braaavo! These Venus-Pluto and Moon-Mars are tasty. Heeey, you cheated with yods, I see asteroids there  ------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 18711 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 24, 2014 07:13 AM
So what? Who sais I cannot use asteroids? Pfft, scratch that, I do not care who sais that. I have an Aqua moon. I can do whatever I want.
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 11099 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 24, 2014 07:21 AM
Wow...you girls turned into Van Goghs over night...impressive!  ------------------
I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 24, 2014 08:13 AM
Lee, now it's time for you to copycat me ^^I explored harmonic charts some more and in 7th synastry I found this... my Venus on his Pluto (20 minutes, woohoo) my Pluto opposite his Venus my Uranus opposite his Venus my Pluto on his Antivertex my Sun conjunct his Sun and Uranus my SN conjunct his Mars Moon conjunct Psyche DW my Mars-Eros conjunct his Neptune and Pholus my ASC conjunct his Eros ASC reversed and widely conjunct Viva obsession! Maybe I'll torture you with another masterpiece. Btw, in 2 charts I have my Sun in the same sign and at the same degree, just a few minutes off. Is this common or am I special? What about the Sun and Moon in the same sign in one chart? ------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 18711 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 24, 2014 08:25 AM
In another book on harmonics the author recommended checking the 4th harmonic chart of the first meeting chart, as this would show impressively how a relationship unfolds (or not). He interpreted an example, and it was quite convincing. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 18711 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 24, 2014 08:38 AM
There are of course other aspects, but I thought this Kite looked interesting. Plus it fits the Uranian vibe of the meeting. lolNot sure if I am allowed to bring the NN into this, or if aspect figures to the NN count, but it is interesting to look at. Cochrane said to look at three-planets pattners as well (even if not closed ones); here I cannot ignore the exact Sun-Saturn-conjunction, trine Moon with Moon also being conjunct Pluto.
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 18711 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 24, 2014 08:51 AM
This is another "sort-of-first-contact"-chart  maybe hard to see, but there is a cradle in there, a Golden rectangle, and I think a Grand cross.
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I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 24, 2014 08:54 AM
Wow, it's spooky-cool. quote: Not sure if I am allowed to bring the NN into this, or if aspect figures to the NN count, but it is interesting to look at.
You have my permission Vertex-DSC is also worth noting. This Moon-Pluto worked for you indeed...Thanks for sharing this trick.
quote: This is another "sort-of-first-contact"-chart
Come on, we all know it's Jude Vertex-MC trine NN is best. ------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 18711 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 24, 2014 08:57 AM
Of course. Ididnīt try to keep it a secret. Otherwise I should have edited out the title, shouldn`t I?  IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 18711 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 24, 2014 08:59 AM
I suppose in the first one the Sun-Saturn is a clue to both the blockages and the lastingness despite the blocks. IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 24, 2014 09:00 AM
Oops, I didn't notice Anyway, ASC-MC is nice too. Mr. from tv finally in flesh in front of you...------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 18711 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 24, 2014 09:02 AM
also I seem to have a thing for Siva-Parvati-aspects. lolin fact when I met Mr Sag there was a transiting Siva-Parvati-conjunction falling onto his own progressed Parvati and trine my natal Siva, and additionally the Siva-Parvati-conjunction in the transits was conjunct the Kaali-ASC-conjunction in our progressed composite.  IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 24, 2014 09:03 AM
In short, you were lovers in ancient India  ------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 18711 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 24, 2014 09:05 AM
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I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 24, 2014 09:09 AM
You were lovers in 19th century India? Haha. I have a question. What is a 9th harmonic chart for? ------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 18711 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 24, 2014 09:27 AM
marriage. And he probably built the Taj Mahal for me. 
Nope, do not think so. It is probably just archetypical. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 11099 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 24, 2014 01:30 PM
quote: Originally posted by I'm so cappy: Lee, now it's time for you to copycat me ^^I explored harmonic charts some more and in 7th synastry I found this... my Venus on his Pluto (20 minutes, woohoo) my Pluto opposite his Venus my Uranus opposite his Venus my Pluto on his Antivertex my Sun conjunct his Sun and Uranus my SN conjunct his Mars Moon conjunct Psyche DW my Mars-Eros conjunct his Neptune and Pholus my ASC conjunct his Eros ASC reversed and widely conjunct
You are erotic soulmates 
quote: Btw, in 2 charts I have my Sun in the same sign and at the same degree, just a few minutes off. Is this common or am I special?
You are special 
quote: What about the Sun and Moon in the same sign in one chart?
You are boring 
Just kidding. Integration, unity of Yin/Yang energies for that chart. What is the orb between them, what chart?
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 11099 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted July 24, 2014 01:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: marriage. And he probably built the Taj Mahal for me. 
Nope, do not think so. It is probably just archetypical.
Oh...so it was you??  What shall we look for in the "marriage" chart? (the 9th) Then, comparing it with the other's 9th and natal, I suppose (like we did with 11th)? ------------------
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