posted August 22, 2014 11:31 AM            

Couples who have composite Venus on ASC or DSC will always have the Part of Marriage on ASC or DSC.

Part of Marriage = ASC + DSC - Venus

Which means Venus on ASC or DSC in the composite is indeed a strong placement for marriage.

My parents have this also, composite Venus conj ASC.

posted August 22, 2014 11:56 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Thanks

It was regarded as a very positive aspect. I think the energy of POF is strongly related to self-identity and the energy of that luminary in the chart. Fame is possible.

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You are most welcome

I meant in synastry

posted August 22, 2014 02:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
You are most welcome

I meant in synastry

But thanks, I have moon conjunct pof. I hope, this does not turn the interpretation

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Synastry POF/luminaries makes for a strong and benefic contact, overall, me thinks.

posted August 22, 2014 06:05 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
Hello guys,

After reading that Cochrane article through and trough I'm now completely sure I'll stick forever to the following consistent formula (no day/night & am/pm distinction);

PF = ASC + MOON - SUN
PS = ASC + SUN - MOON
PR = SUN + MOON - ASC

^ these are the 3 possible Parts with the Big Three. Forming each (ofcourse) an isosceles trapezoid with only 3 repeating angles in all of them. So there's an interesting symmetry behind it.

PR = part of retribution

Again the link: http://astrosoftware.com/ArabicParts.htm

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This was interesting to read. The formula I have for Part of Retribution is actually AC+SUN-MARS, but that is for actual "retribution". I think the above has a more basic meaning, more relative to the big three. Deserves a different name, in my opinion.

The sabian for my PoS and NN are related, and the fact the PoR (as referenced in the article) conjuncts my NN (and DC) is neat. Plus, ya know, the third leg of the fire signs. Evidently, my fortune and success in all matters require assertive confidence, and all things fire. Even my DESTINN (6583) sits in Sag, lol.

PoF Sag 18°, sabian "Pelicans Menaced By The Behavior And Refuse Of Men Seek Safer Areas For Bringing Up Their Young"

PoS Ari 6°, "A Man Succeeds In Expressing Himself Simultaneously In Two Realms"

PoR Leo 14°, sabian "A Pageant, With Its Spectacular Floats, Moves Along A Street Crowded With Cheering People"

NN Leo 13°, sabian "A Human Soul Seeking Opportunities For Outward Manifestation"
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My mom and I have a number of synastric links.

her PoS conjuncts my SUN 2°
her PoF conjuncts my PoS 3°
her PoR conjuncts my AVX 2°

posted August 23, 2014 08:12 AM            

my POS
After A Storm A Boat Landing Stands In Need Of Reconstruction

POF:
Virgo-decanate:
Sagitarius-duad (8 degrees conjunct my natal ASC on 7 degree Sagittarius! - being myself makes me happy inside?)

posted August 23, 2014 10:14 AM            

PoF in Sagittarius
Decan - Aries
Dwad - Cancer (8th from Sagittarius)
Duad - Scorpio (8th sign)

PoS in Aries
Decan - Aries
Dwad - Gemini (3rd from Aries)
Duad - Gemini (3rd sign)

PoR in Leo
Decan - Sagittarius
Dwad - Capricorn (6th from Leo)
Duad - Virgo (6th sign)

posted August 23, 2014 10:57 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Sabian of my POF:
A Woman Reading Tea Leaves

That's interesting. It seems related to astrology and divination arts.

my POS
After A Storm A Boat Landing Stands In Need Of Reconstruction
The need of reinventing oneself, rebirth and perseverance. It shows a strong spirit which cannot be bent.

POF:
Virgo-decanate:
Sagitarius-duad (8 degrees conjunct my natal ASC on 7 degree Sagittarius! - being myself makes me happy inside?)

I think it means someone conjuncting duad POF triggers your POF or is related to it. It can also mean something you do yourself, especially related to ASC issues, is essential for your POF.

I think POF shows our worldly success and mostly POS shows our inner state of bliss.

POS:
Aquarius-decanate
Aries-duad (10 degrees)
Mr Aqua lol....just kidding!

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posted August 23, 2014 11:10 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
stumnbeled across this

http://aliceportman.com/what-are-arabic-parts/

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Great suggestions for POF/POS interpretations, thanks!

I'm also suggesting squares (apart from showing action and/or work is needed), and perhaps sesquisquares/semisquares may point to a "change in fortune", a sudden change, related to that planet and the house it rules. Remember that POF is always positive, however, IMO. So a square from Saturn, for instance, doesn't mean a stroke of "bad luck", it means a reward (karmic or from this life) for some good Saturnian deeds (work, perseverance, commitment, patience etc.)

EDIT: more importantly, I think a hard aspect from Saturn means time is a key ingredient for the issue and things can't happen before their time.

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posted August 23, 2014 11:33 AM            

I'm impressed that his duad POF is exactly conjunct my infamous Jupiter (Yod apex).

posted August 23, 2014 11:49 AM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
You'll find this in your garden:

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Obviously, I'm donating the crown to you, my Queen

posted August 23, 2014 12:29 PM            

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PoR Leo 14°, sabian "A Pageant, With Its Spectacular Floats, Moves Along A Street Crowded With Cheering People"

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That ^ is a great discovery during a Venus transit over your PoR (& NN) Blind writer
(Venus LEO 13'55 right now)

Guess what..

My PoR (20'05 Libra) discovery some days earlier with t-NN at 20'26 Libra..

And my natal NN 14,5 Aqua.

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posted August 23, 2014 01:23 PM            

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Obviously, I'm donating the crown to you, my Queen

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Good girl

I calculated AP for the composite with C. for fun and I got this:
PoFortune - conjunct Valentine (4)
PoPartners - conjunct ASC from the 12th house
PoLovers - conjunct MC from the 10th house
PoLove - conjunct Moon-Pluto
PoDesire - conjunct Neptune, sextile NN and AntiV exact, square Mercury exact
PoSexDrive - conjunct Moira and Vertex-SN, kite with Moon-Pluto, Jupiter and Neptune
PoFascination - conjunct Pholus, opposite Juno
PoDestiny - conjunct Amor, t-squares with Juno-BML and Pholus-PoFascination
PoAbundance - grand cross with with Priapus, Uranus and Ceres
PoFame - conjunct PoSpirit tightly, kite with PoAbundance, Eros-PoGenius, and Ceres
PoArt - sextile Vesta exact
PoBenevolence - grand trine with Uranus and DSC
PoUnusualEvents - conjunct Saturn in a Saturn-Jupiter-Mars t-square
PoSpirit - conjunct Pholus (4)
PoEccentricity - t-square with the Nodal and Vertex axes, kite with Mercury, Mars and Valentine, another kite with Mercury, Saturn and Sun
PoHappiness - conjunct Valentine, grand cross with PoEccentricity and Nodes-Vertex
PoGenius - conjunct Eros and IC
Oh, I see there's a yod with PoFame-PoSpirit, PoAbundance and ASC...Ok, enough for now

posted August 23, 2014 05:24 PM            

my PoF trine KD's PoF 3°
my PoF quincunx KD's JUNO 1°
my PoF sextile composite PoF 2°

my JUNO square KD's JUNO 2°
my JUNO sextile KD's PoF 0°
my JUNO conj composite PoF 2°

KD's PoF sextile composite PoF 1°
KD's JUNO square composite PoF 1°
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Some synastric aspects with a couple other Parts. Formulae below.

Love & Marriage I = AC + JUPITER - VENUS
Love & Marriage II = AC + VENUS - JUPITER
Marriage of Men II = AC + VENUS - SUN
Marriage of Women I = AC + SATURN - VENUS
Marriage of Women II = AC + MARS - MOON
Weddings = 9H cusp + 3H cusp - VENUS
Desire/Sexual Attraction = AC + 5H cusp - 5H ruler
Passion = AC + MARS - SUN
Karma = AC + SATURN - SUN
Charm & Personality = AC + URANUS - NEPTUNE
Man's Marriage = AC + VENUS - SATURN

my SUN conj KD's Marriage of Men II 0°04'
my Marriage of Women I conj composite VENUS 0°03'
my Marriage of Women II conj KD's Love & Marriage I 1°
my Marriage of Women II conj KD's Love & Marriage II 0°
my Marriage of Women II conj KD's Weddings 0°
my Desire/Sexual Attraction conj KD's JUPITER 0°
my Desire/Sexual Attraction conj KD's Charm & Personality 0°
my Passion conj KD's Karma 0°
my Weddings conj KD's MOON 2°
my Weddings conj KD's Man's Marriage 1°

posted August 23, 2014 06:29 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
[QUOTE]Obviously, I'm donating the crown to you, my Queen

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Question: now, where will you find a better one?
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posted August 24, 2014 11:29 AM            

Composite Part-of-Spirit (although some might say PoF as it's a Compo 5th house Sun); 29'44 Pisces.

Composite Saturn; 29'33 Pisces.

How utterly fitting its Sabian;

30º Pisces: A majestic rock formation resembling a face is idealized by a boy who takes it as his ideal of greatness, and as he grows up, begins to look like it.
*** Eventual concrete manifestation of all higher poetic images and enduring truths of the race. Sure culmination of effort ***

posted August 24, 2014 12:27 PM            

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Is this P of Marriage? So you have Venus on ASC or DSC?

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wow... I thought you didn't want to get married

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I'm totally envious on this one

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retreat for Eros activities...paparazzi will hunt you down..

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You have a quirky guardian angel

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Shrooms?

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I would have been disappointed if you hadn't calculated this one

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Question: now, where will you find a better one?

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
My progressed POF is now conjunct IC. Time to dig out that treasure, Cappy, so prepare one of your favorite pink outfits for that crown.

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posted August 24, 2014 12:59 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
Time for l o v e . . .

Composite Part-of-Spirit (although some might say PoF as it's a Compo 5th house Sun); 29'44 Pisces.

Composite Saturn; 29'33 Pisces.

How utterly fitting its Sabian;

[b]30º Pisces: A majestic rock formation resembling a face is idealized by a boy who takes it as his ideal of greatness, and as he grows up, begins to look like it.
*** Eventual concrete manifestation of all higher poetic images and enduring truths of the race. Sure culmination of effort ***

What we share is not a worldly, earthly love.. but also not a love beyond this world (what an amazing rock symbolic). It's even more than that. True and pure. Not prone to any trifling word of which there are too many in our world. [/B]

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This is beautiful, Mir

great idea!

Composite Arabic Parts + Sabians

8-9 deg Capricorn

An Angel Carrying A Harp
POF Cap 8.34 2nd - common fortune comes later in life, in relation to 2nd house issues. It opposes Saturn (1) squares Pluto (3). GT with Karma in Taurus and MC in Virgo (1). Fortune is stable, the Kite apex is Saturn in Cancer 8th conjunct Amor.It conjuncts his Part of Fascination exact and our stellium of Parts in early Cap.

27-28 deg Taurus

A Woman, Past Her "Change Of Life", Experiences A New Love

Part of Destiny Taurus 27.49 6th - perhaps working together or a stable home?
It conjuncts my Part of Wedding (2) and his Venus/Pluto Part and his Part of Happiness
Conjuncts composite DSC (3)

25-26 deg Taurus

A Spanish Gallant Serenades His Beloved
It conjuncts our comp Part of Marriage/Partners Taurus 25.32, which is 2 deg from DSC. How about that????

9-10 deg Sagittarius

A Theatrical Representation Of A Golden-Haired Goddess Of Opportunity

Part of Fate/Karma Sag 10 1st house on Avx exact - a very fated marker here
It conjuncts Neptune IC ruler (2)
squares MC/IC and Union

19-20 deg Sagittarius

In An Old-Fashioned Northern Village Men Cut The Ice Of A Frozen Pond For Use During The Summer

Part of Unusual Events Sag 19.37 and Part of Fascination Sag 19.23 conj NN/Mercury exact opp Sun (2)
isn't this amazing??
I smell some wild adventures hehehe

14-15 deg Leo

A Pageant, With Its Spectacular Floats, Moves Along A Street Crowded With Cheering People
Part of Spirit Leo 14.15 - conjuncts my natal Moon and his Part of Marriage
It is in the 9th house, I think this can indicate a spiritual couple in general
It trines Eros (1)

15-16 deg Gemini

A Woman Activist In An Emotional Speech Dramatizing Her Cause
Part of Victory Gem 16 in the 7th indicates a joyful union
It conjuncts composite SN and his Part of LOvers a bit wider (4)

Love-related Arabic Parts

25-26 deg Cancer

Guests Are Reading In The Library Of A Luxurious Home
Part of Desire and Sexual Attraction Cancer 25.19 8th house - rather passionate
Opp Pallas, square Vesta (3) trines ASC (1) and Venus (3)

7-8 deg Libra

A Blazing Fireplace In A Deserted Home
Part of Energy/Sex Drive/Passion/Intensity/Compulsion Libra 7.42
Conjuncts Pluto (2), chart and Venus ruler, in the 11th house
It should give a lot of energy lol

13-14 deg Cancer

A Very Old Man Facing A Vast Dark Space To The Northeast
Part of Happiness Cancer 13.47 8th house
square Eros (0) and Valentine (1) sextile Union (2)
It conjuncts my natal Saturn (3)

24-25 deg Aries

The Possibility For Man To Gain Experience At Two Levels Of Being
Part of Love/Beauty Aries 24.45
in the 5th house, conjuncts Chiron (3) part of the Venus Yod with the composite Sun, on angles
An aspect for lovers

20-21 deg Pisces

Under The Watchful And Kind Eye Of A Chinese Servant, A Girl Fondles A Little White Lamb

Part of Lovers Pisces 20.30
This one opp my natal Sun exact, conjuncts his natal Sun (1)
It is in the 4th comp house, square Sun/nodal axis (1), trines ASC/Venus sextiles DSC

19-20 deg Libra

A Rabbi Performing His Duties WOW
Part of Wedding Libra 20
opp Chiron trines Sun (1) sextile NN/Mercury (1)
In the 11th house, it suggests a non-conformist wedding or one with a lot of guests

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posted August 24, 2014 01:37 PM            

Part of Love and Marriage I: 12 Aquarius
A Barometer

Love and Marriage II: 2 Libra
The Dawn Of A New Day Reveals Everything Changed

in orb with the AP
widely on my MC (3 degrees)
square VESTA

Marriage of Men II 17 Sagittarius
Children Playing On The Beach, Their Heads Protected By Sunbonnets

sextile Moon exact
quinkunx Saturn
opposite KARMA

Marriage of Women I: 17 Gmeini
Two Chinese Men Converse In Their Native Tongue In An American City

conjunct KARMA
(trine Moon exact)

Marriage of Women II: 25 Virgo
A Boy With A Censer Serves The Priest Near The Altar

square my Sun-Mercury exact
conj. my Draco DESC, opposing Dr Mars ex.

Weddings 17 Libra
Two Men Placed Under Arrest

trine MOon exact
conjunct DNA
square Saturn exact
opposing Draco Sun

Desire: 2 Aries (opposed my Marriage pt)
The Cameo Profile Of A Man, Suggesting The Shape Of His Country

on AP
conj. DEJANIRA
square VESTA
trine AMOR exact
on IC

Passion: 16 Scorpio
A Woman, Fecundated By Her Own Spirit, Is "Great With Child"

square Moon exact
trine Saturn exact
conj. Lancelot exact (and Siva, Moira etc.)

Karma: 28 Gemini
The First Mockingbird Of Spring

conj. NESSUS exact
opposing Sun-Mercury by 2-3 degrees
trine UNION-ADONIS

Charm: 28 Libra
Mankind's Vast And Enduring Effort To Reach For Knowledge Transferable From Generation To Generation

conjunct ADONIS-UNION (1 deg.)
conjunct Uranus (3 egrees)
trine BML exact
trine NESSUS exact
square ANUBIS exact (and my POF. lol)

Mans marriage 26 Taurus
An Old Indian Woman Selling The Artifacts Of Her Tribe To Passerby