posted December 13, 2014 06:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Oh, absolutely they do, Gerbera.

It's my personal opinion that, what we need to evolve here, we'll bring in from elsewhere. It's easier to see this as 'past' and 'present', but, scientifically speaking, all we have is the now. This moment. It's all existing, everywhere, right now.

Are you and your partner together elsewhere, too? It's highly possible. Souls typically have a gameplan to tackle as much as they can in a cycle of development. But trying to process this all simultaneously is beyond the scope of the human brain in most respects. So it's easier to digest as 'in a past life'.

Any time that our PEs -- whether the LE or SE -- hit the natal of a partner, they are crucial in terms of our satisfying some outstanding obligation, or, even reaping rewards for acting in the interest of evolution elsewhere -- and here, too.

It looks like 0° SAG is your soul-group (or soul-family) karma. Anything hitting that degree will tie your natal (or his) to your greater karma. Whereas the 16° TAU/SCO axis is more personalised, and representative of a particular relationship or soul mission you're here to complete. This is where our personal karma appears.

It's possible a PLE won't hit a natal; in that case, reading the chart itself can yield clues into what your soul's chosen to explore here now. Is it NNODE-oriented, with the SUN aligned with the NNODE? That's a push for evolution, whereas a SNODE-directed PLE (or PSE) can point to being stuck in a past pattern that requires breaking in order to evolve. Sometimes, we must revisit past patterns in order to evolve beyond them. In this case, we'll see the NODES involved in configurations across the two charts.

As to casting them, I use birth place, and, as you were doing, charting the exact moment of the lunation. The ASC for the PEs can almost be mind-blowing in its perfect relation to the natal, or activating a natal configuration.

In my case, it's a Grand Cross, involving the PSE's ASC/DSC and my natal NODES, with the PSE's SUN and MOON on my NNODE, and my CHIRON square the axis, on the DSC!

It can really, REALLY be illuminating, once we understand its particular language.

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Yep – the “game plan”!! (will come to this at the end of my post)

I read this forum daily and been trying to practice on my reading skills. The guy I’m currently with – he is the only guy who I felt special and connected to (amongst many freaky/spooky/crazy synchronizations). So I always use his chart for my analyses. Then somewhere along the way, I began to see patterns, repeated themes, and helped me fructify some of my own theory and about myself. I will be jumping topics here and there.. and it’s gonna be long!
Since I was a kid, I have always joked that I’m a boy and was born in a wrong (girl) body. Now, I don’t mean I’m a transgender. Ima legit straight person!!! LOL But as a child, I knew I was more boyish then my female friends. Going through the links you have listed here, I came to find that my key planet is Uranus (masculine planet). This totally makes sense! I was a boy in my previous life. The degree between SE and Uranus is only 13 – which makes it only 13 years between the end of my previous life and rebirth into this present life. I feel this is rather quick reincarnation and it turns out Uranus also suggests some sort of sudden death – everything makes sense. I died suddenly in my previous life, and 4 year old me, somehow knew I was supposed to be a boy (or confused or wondered about it?). I guess the quick death and reincarnation confused my soul! Lol! Perhaps my soul was young when he died too. More cool facts: the PSE occurred in the sign of Sagittarius = my natal Asc is Sagittarius; my key planet is Uranus = my natal Uranus conjuncts natal Asc. *mind blown*

A couple of years ago, I went to see a monk in Taiwan. He was trained by Dali Lama (or trained under his teachings), and he does readings for anyone. You can ask him anything you want. I asked him about my then-bf and I – he tells me that I had a lover in my previous life, who continues to love me till this day. This lover apparently wants me back and will do whatever to sabotage any romantic relationship I will try to have in this life. Argh, karmic much!!?? Indeed I had a very VERY tough relationship with my ex. – 12 year long miserable unrequited partnership. So why is this lover still in love with me? Well the PSE chart answered it – because I died suddenly. I do wonder if this lover is still alive somewhere.. in some parallel universe where my previous life was. (Note: I don’t think “previous” life just means past, or back in time.)

I met my man back in May 2013 – there was an eclipse right before our first date (I think 21 of May). We had instant connection, strong chemistry, lovey dovey feeling, yada yada yada. This is when I came across with the idea of twin flames. In the beginning I thought, OMG.. he’s gotta be my twin. BUT then, after looking through his PSE/PLE charts, comparing them with mine, along with persona charts (when LeeLoo had the huge thread going on), I came to realize something: the idea of twin flames, though it’s very romantic and beautiful, is too “earth-y”, that his is a mirror image of you, you’re his other half, and he’s your other half, just like a set of twins. What if, my soul didn’t decide to split equally in two like that? I got this inspiration when I was doing research on starseeds. I had some aspects in my natal chart that suggests that I am one of those starseeds from Lyra. In that Lyra star system, I bet there could be tons of different kinds of civilizations and we cannot possibly conclude that every souls that descends from Lyra will split equally in two, and if you are lucky enough, you are here to find your missing other half..? (Sorry I maybe too generalizing here.. lol) I feel that him and I were ONE soul/being in another life, or in another civilization/system. We split up but not identically because each of us had a mission, a separate mission. We came down here to learn different things on earth. THIS is the “game plane” for my/his soul. When we die, we will perhaps continue on the mission in the next life., until we learn what we descended here for.

posted December 13, 2014 07:57 PM            

My key planet is JUPITER =.=;;
And it's 44 years between the end of my previous life and reincarnation! Jupiter is still a masculine planet though LOL. Like I said I'm still learning.... TEEHEE.

posted December 13, 2014 08:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Peluches:
(Cyrus = his name asteroid)

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- my n[b]Acacia-Dejanira at 20° Aries (Additional, b/c I might have a theory)

- my nH2 Cusp at 18° Libra
- his nMars at 18° Libra
- his nUranus at 19° Libra

... I just noticed that my nSun/Moon mdp is at 12° Sagittarius (Antiscia of 18° Cap if I'm not mistaken).

One of the aspects that caught my attention in regular synastry is that his Mars and Uranus opposite my Acacia and Dejanira. We could say that I'm more the submissive type... Well, I mean, I just hate seeing people sad and I avoid conflicts. My so is quite the opposite (if you wish to know a bit more about him). So, taking all that into account, my theory would be that I hurt him badly in a previous life. IMO, the other placements we have at 18-20° Aries/Libra axis support it. I'll need confirmation though.

If you wish to hear the whole story I'll be happy to share.[/B]

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Peluches, you're referring to the man in his 40s (or whatever it was, older than me at least with Pluto at 3 Libra) as "your so", so presumably "S.O." short for "significant other". From a previous thread I think you were around 13-14 and he was your piano tutor/teacher. Coming from someone near the man's age, do you have any idea how creepy your calling someone who isn't in any actual way in a relationship with you "your so" is? Or: at least the last time wasn't involved with you, and hopefully still isn't, or the board/someone needs to contact the cops straight off.

If it's illegal in every way, please don't creep people out by claiming a relationship or try to delude the boards into thinking something such between you and someone like that. I have a niece who's 12 and thinking of someone even my age mixed in with anything like that is one of the creepiest things, even if there was waiting until she was of age. Childhood/teenage crushes happen, but it was clarified by someone as a crush from your end in a previous thread, so saying "your so" = CREEPY AS HELL.

Ok, found one of the threads where it was discussed and you were 14, he 41 back then (42 now if a Scorpio?). If it's a crush, no "S.O." references unless you want to skeeve people up.

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/000730.html

Still pointing out that people older than you can be generally kind to many children and it NEVER occur to them that the child would have any interest whatsoever in someone like them. Or if they notice a crush, to try killing it by taking distance, since they're not interested and you never know how badly a child/teen with a crush is going to act. And when you get to my age, even people nearing age thirty can seem immature at times (and I'm immature to many people older than me or the same age, yes), so it takes a certain kind of a person to consider a relationship with someone who is more than 25 years younger than them. IF that kind of a person knew the child when they were still a child, I'd call the person very creepy. It gets different when everyone is an adult on first meeting, but when one person is a child first off the age difference looks horrifying. He's almost 30 years older than you and you were crying in the other thread, sounding like a child in every way. If your affection lasts another four years, it's a pity for YOU, needing something more age appropriate for your interest.

posted December 13, 2014 09:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Keela:
Peluches, you're referring to the man in his 40s (or whatever it was, older than me at least with Pluto at 3 Libra) as "your so", so presumably "S.O." short for "significant other". From a previous thread I think you were around 13-14 and he was your piano tutor/teacher. Coming from someone near the man's age, do you have any idea how creepy your calling someone who isn't in any actual way in a relationship with you "your so" is? Or: at least the last time wasn't involved with you, and hopefully still isn't, or the board/someone needs to contact the cops straight off.

If it's illegal in every way, please don't creep people out by claiming a relationship or try to delude the boards into thinking something such between you and someone like that. I have a niece who's 12 and thinking of someone even my age mixed in with anything like that is one of the creepiest things, even if there was waiting until she was of age. Childhood/teenage crushes happen, but it was clarified by someone as a crush from your end in a previous thread, so saying "your so" = CREEPY AS HELL.

Ok, found one of the threads where it was discussed and you were 14, he 41 back then (42 now if a Scorpio?). If it's a crush, no "S.O." references unless you want to skeeve people up.

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/000730.html

Still pointing out that people older than you can be generally kind to many children and it NEVER occur to them that the child would have any interest whatsoever in someone like them. Or if they notice a crush, to try killing it by taking distance, since they're not interested and you never know how badly a child/teen with a crush is going to act. And when you get to my age, even people nearing age thirty can seem immature at times (and I'm immature to many people older than me or the same age, yes), so it takes a certain kind of a person to consider a relationship with someone who is more than 25 years younger than them. IF that kind of a person knew the child when they were still a child, I'd call the person very creepy. It gets different when everyone is an adult on first meeting, but when one person is a child first off the age difference looks horrifying. He's almost 30 years older than you and you were crying in the other thread, sounding like a child in every way. If your affection lasts another four years, it's a pity for YOU, needing something more age appropriate for your interest.

To address astrology, the solstice point of 12 Sagittarius is 17 Capricorn, since you have the minutes on top. Adding 12+17 = 29 + minutes on top.

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I was not intending to claim a relationship with this person. As someone whose mother tongue is French and living in France and therefore not having much practice with English, I thought that using "so" could just mean that he is significant to me. I obviously see that I was wrong and I thank you for pointing that out to me.

posted December 13, 2014 09:44 PM            

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Originally posted by ueharaa:
Yes I think that's what best to do. You put the location as your place of birth and then adjust the time. (time given in the links aubyanne provided is universal time)

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Thanks, but actualy the time of the PNE is major and why would we be using the same time zone as our birth location.
if the time between the PNE and the actual is a time where the "soul wanders"
I hope my question doesnt sound too stupid!!

posted December 13, 2014 09:53 PM            

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Originally posted by : Keela
To address astrology, the solstice point of 12 Sagittarius is 17 Capricorn, since you have the minutes on top. Adding 12+17 = 29 + minutes on top.

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posted December 13, 2014 10:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Peluches:
I was not intending to claim a relationship with this person. As someone whose mother tongue is French and living in France and therefore not having much practice with English, I thought that using "so" could just mean that he is significant to me.

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posted December 13, 2014 10:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Keela:
If my reaction seemed harsh it was likely the knee-jerk reaction side, so I hope it wasn't hurtful through the horrified thing or O.O happening at this end. I should have tried to remember language barriers and your relatively young age, yes, but "significant other" reads as someone you are in a relationship with at my end. It's what you say when you don't want to use the word spouse or say you're married or something such, but when the relationship is more than just boyfriend or girlfriend level. At least that's how I read it.

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posted December 14, 2014 08:46 AM            

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Originally posted by Sccs:
Thanks, but actualy the time of the PNE is major and why would we be using the same time zone as our birth location.
if the time between the PNE and the actual is a time where the "soul wanders"
I hope my question doesnt sound too stupid!!

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posted December 14, 2014 01:06 PM            

Just a question, please. Would you think that, Person B's Karma asteroid 18,13° conjunct Person A's South Node 20,02° in regular synastry, combined with A's PSE Sun-Moon at 18,37° and 18,41° respectively, and all that conjunct A's PSE Descendant 20,34° is significant in terms of karmic links ? If so, who would you think is most likely to have the most karma in this situation ?

posted December 14, 2014 06:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Sccs:
Thanks, but actualy the time of the PNE is major and why would we be using the same time zone as our birth location.
if the time between the PNE and the actual is a time where the "soul wanders"
I hope my question doesnt sound too stupid!!

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No worries, Sccs.

The theory states it's where we eventually chose to incarnate. We narrowed it down to just the right energy pattern or wavelength for what we're here to do, and 'touched down' at the right time (or birth).

While an overly simplistic and very concrete theory, I appreciate the mechanics of it. Seems oddly indicative to me, and the PEs haven't disappointed yet.

I feel rather than true 'wandering', it's a sort of waiting period. Are things 'aligned' just yet? Or are we going to wait a bit, suspended in the astral, or tying up ends elsewhere, preparing to incarnate into this dimension?

The way I'm beginning to look at it, I chose this particular energy for incarnation here. It's how I selected THIS particular time and place. But there were still important things to do elsewhere -- which I feel is evidenced by the aspects from my PLE to my natal.

posted December 14, 2014 07:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Peluches:
Auby,

Just a question, please. Would you think that, Person B's Karma asteroid 18,13° conjunct Person A's South Node 20,02° in regular synastry, combined with A's PSE Sun-Moon at 18,37° and 18,41° respectively, and all that conjunct A's PSE Descendant 20,34° is significant in terms of karmic links ? If so, who would you think is most likely to have the most karma in this situation ?

Thank you

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Peluches,

SNODE is where debts are outstanding, in most interpretations of it. KARMA is complicated here. You have to ask, 'how does SNODE owe the other KARMA?' For that, KARMA is not descriptive, but representative of something else. Whatever KARMA embodies is what the SNODE 'owes' to KARMA for harm done elsewhere.

It's clearly a big deal (soul's agenda speaking) to the SNODE individual to repay this debt, given the PSE being conjunct the natal SNODE. They'll have the chance to do so in the form of something less personal and more universal. The debt may not even be directly repaid to KARMA; it may be a larger issue regarding the soul-family involved.

As it's on the PSE DSC, the subject of You versus The World comes into play. The karma involved may also involve a former committed relationship, or a miscarriage of justice, depending upon circumstances.

It's also a clear sign they're 'SNODE oriented'. There is major karma to be cleared before they can more readily evolve, going to the next level.

The other individual's KARMA will provide context clues of how and why; what may have gone wrong or be left undone.

A warning about SNODE-oriented relationships. Unless there are strong NNODE links, mutually, in the synastry, these are self-limiting connexions. SNODE can become 'hung up' on the planet or asteroid person, as everything comes so easily. Almost as a rule, these tend to be 'impossible relationships' in which there is a stronger connexion to fantasy than reality. And they rarely withstand reality.

The question is to ask, 'what debt must be paid?'

posted December 14, 2014 07:25 PM            

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I did my PSE & I am a bit blown away which rarely occurs to this wizened old bag. I have attracted so many Cancer heavy males in my life. I am a 2H Sun Libra. I have a Cancer SNode conjunct Saturn stradling the 10H & 11H cusp respectively. Most of these men were mid to late degree Cancers. I used to chalk it up to my 11 degree Pisces Moon until I saw my PSE mid degree 8H Sun/Moon Cancer conjuntion. My insta bro Sun conjuncts this. I talked to him 30 minutes before he chose to check out very early one Sunday morning. I did not find out until Monday afternoon. I had been living in Alaska & he was still in Oklahoma. That was April Fool's Day & I stayed home from work because I felt a disturbance in the force. That was over 10 years ago.

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It IS mind boggling, isn't it? Especially for a 2H Libran! My own PSE is LEO inundated, but I laughed when I saw the degree of just about every man I've ever loved, and my closest girlfriends.

posted December 14, 2014 09:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Peluches,

SNODE is where debts are outstanding, in most interpretations of it. KARMA is complicated here. You have to ask, 'how does SNODE owe the other KARMA?' For that, KARMA is not descriptive, but representative of something else. Whatever KARMA embodies is what the SNODE 'owes' to KARMA for harm done elsewhere.

It's clearly a big deal (soul's agenda speaking) to the SNODE individual to repay this debt, given the PSE being conjunct the natal SNODE. They'll have the chance to do so in the form of something less personal and more universal. The debt may not even be directly repaid to KARMA; it may be a larger issue regarding the soul-family involved.

As it's on the PSE DSC, the subject of You versus The World comes into play. The karma involved may also involve a former committed relationship, or a miscarriage of justice, depending upon circumstances.

It's also a clear sign they're 'SNODE oriented'. There is major karma to be cleared before they can more readily evolve, going to the next level.

The other individual's KARMA will provide context clues of how and why; what may have gone wrong or be left undone.

A warning about SNODE-oriented relationships. Unless there are strong NNODE links, mutually, in the synastry, these are self-limiting connexions. SNODE can become 'hung up' on the planet or asteroid person, as everything comes so easily. Almost as a rule, these tend to be 'impossible relationships' in which there is a stronger connexion to fantasy than reality. And they rarely withstand reality.

The question is to ask, 'what debt must be paid?'

Remember: once the debt is paid, the relationship should be let go. We don't grow from our SNODE. If we cling too tightly, we won't evolve.

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Thank you very much for your reply.

Having seen the entire synastry, and studied it with what little I know, I found there where themes repeated involving 1) Mars and/or Uranus for the karmic debts of Person A, and 2) Venus (possibly an unreciprocated love thing) for the karmic debts of person B.

So I've been thinking about what you said ; concerning the "universal" type of karmic debts for A, could homosexuality -- and the public image related to that -- be considered as one, especially as gay marriage has been legalized in France only very recently, and homophobia is still quite present ? I'm 99% sure Person A is gay. Besides, it would fit with the planets involved. People say that a hard aspect between Mars and Uranus could indicate homosexuality in a chart.
Side note : personally, I don't think that's the only indicator -- people born the same day would all be gay if we applied this theory --, even if Person A does have that aspect natally (conjunct by less than 2 degrees at 18,06° and 19,46°, in H5, and IN LIBRA, square his Nodes).

I have a few other questions, if you have any time, please.

Person A has :
in PSE : Sun 18,37° Can, Moon 18,41° Can, North Node 25,59° Cap, AC 20,34° Cap.
in PLE : Sun 3,23° Leo, Moon 3,19° Aqua, North Node 26,03° Cap, AC 2,18° Vir.
in Natal : Sun 5,29° Sco, Moon 0,52° Leo, North Node 20,02° Cap, AC 0°02 Can.
other links : HH (huber house) positions in PLE are Leo for NN, Aqua for SN. Also, without HH, A's nMoon is Leo, and PLE Sun is Leo. However, PSE Moon is Aqua.

So far I definitely agree Person A is South Node-oriented. Sorry if this question is a bit stupid, but I'm not exactly sure what that means. Is it that A naturally tends to "fall back" on his South Node, and has more of a Cancerian personality ?

Person B has :
in PSE : Sun 18,20° Leo, Moon 18,18° Leo, North Node 12,58° Leo, AC 26,19° Libra.
n PLE : Sun 4,58° Leo, Moon 5,02° Aqua, North Node 12,55° Leo, AC 21,42° Libra.
in Natal : Sun 24,18° Libra, Moon 0,02° Aqua, North Node 9,49° Leo, AC 19,03° Virgo.
other links : HH nMoon is 9,20° Leo (conjunct nNNode), but HH nNNode is in Aqua, 19,22°.

I think altogether, Person B is NNode-oriented. In this case, would the relationship still be SNode-oriented ? If so, would that be bad for B ?

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But, hey; as it's my NNODE, I guess 'becoming' more LEO is a good thing. [/B]

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NN in Leo in the 12th? More Leo, what does that mean to you?

posted February 14, 2015 01:23 PM            

Have you ever tried making a composite of both partners' PSEs, and another of their PLEs, to determine the karmic eclipse points for the relationship ? And what about a multi composite (midpoint method) for all four ?

posted February 14, 2015 04:40 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Aubyanne, would you be interested in discussing the technical side of OBEs somewhere on LL?

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I just saw this, Cappy. Forgive my serious delays. Everything has been insane.

posted February 14, 2015 04:46 PM            

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NN in Leo in the 12th? More Leo, what does that mean to you?

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Letting my light shine.

In my mid-latter twenties, I was at a crossroads. Cop or creative professional. Specifically, federal profiler or TV writer. I chose Hollyweird, with all of its backstabbing, BS, volatility and broken dreams. I felt I've got some unfinished business with the City of Angels -- and I do.

Since coming here, I got back into acting and starting really developing my singing voice. I've also started producing and directing at various levels of the industry. Most recently, what feels my other big calling, TV writing, is becoming my focus.

I've spent most of my life helping others -- counselling, doing therapy, guiding and instructing. I love it! I've learnt SO much as a result.

But NNODE in LEO is a reminder to me that I'm still here to SHINE. To live boldly and love grandly and feel passionately and enjoy some spotlight.