posted July 12, 2015 01:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
It`s probably as I stated somewhere in that thread, the overall score is just a very very VERY rough guideline, but Vedic system deserves very thorough studying to interprete the scores in a qualititive way (instead of quantitative).

And it also is a must to detach completely from our Western astrological thinking to even arrive at a rough understanding how Vedic works.

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Honestly, I'm not sure how this could be achieved, since we're living under the same stars. There can be only one truth, when it comes to the same system. But I am willing to understand the theory behind establishing this compatibility: the astrological theory. The animal food chain doesn't do it for me though, I hope not everything is based on something like that.

EDIT: also giving verdicts of incompatible/compatible for marriage is a pretty big thing in astrology and people's lives, so it better have a sound astrological background to even be taken to further study.
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posted July 12, 2015 01:56 PM            

Now which one is worse?

Bhakoot Match Analysis 0 / 7
The boy’s bhakoot rasi is Dhanu and the girl comes under Makar bhakoot. This is not a good combination as far as bhakoot compatibility is concerned. The boy is likely to regard the girl as selfish, materialistic and over-concerned with worldly status. The girl is likely to regard the boy as lacking in ambition, practicality and common sense. The boy may also view the girl as hard, cold and unsympathetic, while the girl is likely to regard the boy as too soft and overindulgent toward human weakness.

Bhakoot Match Analysis 0 / 7
The boy’s bhakoot rasi is Meena and the girl comes under Tula bhakoot. Since, this combination is overly harmonious, natives can be insincere and hypocritical towards each other. They may pretend to express sweetness and light, while in reality, they are avoiding unpleasantness or seeking personal or financial gain. They can encourage each other in non-productive, self-indulgent habits or financial extravagence. The girl may regard the boy as overly concerned with religion, philosophic and cultural institutions. The boy may regard the girl as superficial, self-indulgent and hedomistic.

posted July 12, 2015 02:00 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
when it comes to the same system.

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It is not the same system.
They may both use the stars as reference, but still the systems are different.
Can only one be the right one?
Maybe yes, maybe not.

As to the one truth, well that would lead into a philosophical debate.
Personally I think, yes, there might be one universal truth.
However I ALSO think that no human being has full access to that universal truth, we are just seeing parts of it, from different angles.

What i believe though is, that both Vedic system and Western system should arrive at similiar results in describing the relationship, or at least at results, that describe the relationship well (Even if they emphasize differnt aspects of the relationship).

What does NOT work however is taking our western sign-interpretations for example and put them onto the sidreal Vedic placements. Does not work and never will.

posted July 12, 2015 02:00 PM            

Ceri... what about the other happy yoni-1 couples u mentioned?

posted July 12, 2015 02:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:
Ceri, we got the same score in 5 categories

Now which one is worse?

Bhakoot Match Analysis 0 / 7
The boy’s bhakoot rasi is Dhanu and the girl comes under Makar bhakoot. This is not a good combination as far as bhakoot compatibility is concerned. The boy is likely to regard the girl as selfish, materialistic and over-concerned with worldly status. The girl is likely to regard the boy as lacking in ambition, practicality and common sense. The boy may also view the girl as hard, cold and unsympathetic, while the girl is likely to regard the boy as too soft and overindulgent toward human weakness.

Bhakoot Match Analysis 0 / 7
The boy’s bhakoot rasi is Meena and the girl comes under Tula bhakoot. Since, this combination is overly harmonious, natives can be insincere and hypocritical towards each other. They may pretend to express sweetness and light, while in reality, they are avoiding unpleasantness or seeking personal or financial gain. They can encourage each other in non-productive, self-indulgent habits or financial extravagence. The girl may regard the boy as overly concerned with religion, philosophic and cultural institutions. The boy may regard the girl as superficial, self-indulgent and hedomistic.

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I take mine. Rather genuinely different and maybe too blunt, than being hypocrictial and having false sweetness.
(well maybe I do identify with being a Demon-girl after all, a little bit. ).

Neverthless I cannot really identify with the description in our compatibility bhakoot anyway.
Of course I could imagine him regarding me as too cold, well I certainly can come across as such sometimes, or maybe not cold, but detached and withdrawn.

posted July 12, 2015 02:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
It is not the same system.
They may both use the stars as reference, but still the systems are different.
Can only one be the right one?
Maybe yes, maybe not.

As to the one truth, well that would lead into a philosophical debate.
Personally I think, yes, there might be one universal truth.
However I ALSO think that no human being has full access to that universal truth, we are just seeing parts of it, from different angles.

What i believe though is, that both Vedic system and Western system should arrive at similiar results in describing the relationship, or at least at results, that describe the relationship well (Even if they emphasize differnt aspects of the relationship).

What does NOT work however is taking our western sign-interpretations for example and put them onto the sidreal Vedic placements. Does not work and never will.

A tropical Capricorn is different from a Vedic one. A tropical 2nd house has a different meaning than a Vedic (sidereal) 2nd house.
Vedic ONLY works (if it does ) within the Vedic system with its own unique set of rules.
Where we often go wrong is mixing it all up and expecting it to work anyway.

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Absolutely, Ceri, I was trying to say the same thing: it is one universe *what I meant by system), one truth, but different approaches, and each one usually sees the partial truth, each one sees a part of it, and bringing them together (not by mixing, but by putting the knowledge together) we see the big truth better and better, although of course, the final picture takes a long time and a lot of approaches.

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posted July 12, 2015 02:12 PM            

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Us rakshasha women in particular BELONG to rakshasa men! (more so than the manusha and deva women who match with others also). Great we have it all here!

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posted July 12, 2015 02:25 PM            

"Gana Kuta or “Temperment”
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This is just one piece of a larger system used by Vedic Astrologers to determine compatibility between partners. I refer to the Ganas frequently because they’re so useful in communication, i.e., understanding where people are coming from. My moon is in Mula, which makes me Rakshasa Gana.

The technique used to determine the affinity of two people’s temperaments is known as Gana Kuta. Gana means race and determines a person’s temperament based on the symbolism of three mythological races:

Deva
Manusha
Rakshasa
Devas are conservative, appropriate, traditional (e.g., value marriage), faithful, open, loyal and devoted. They tend to avoid confrontation, color within the lines, and be politically correct. They can be very giving towards relationships and very relationship-oriented. They include the Nakshatras: Aswini, Mrigashira, Punurvasu, Pushya, Hasta, Swati, Anuradha, Shravana and Revati.

Manushas are practical and can be more innovative and progressive than Devas yet are still somewhat conservative. They include the nakshatras: Bharani, Rohini, Ardra, Purvaphalguni, Uttaraphalguni, Purvaashada, Uttaraashada, Purvabhadrapada and Uttarabhadrapada.

Rakshasas are independent, innovative, creative, unconventional, eccentric and capable of breaking attachments and conventions. They’re willing to break the rules, live out loud, rock the boat, buck the system, march to the beat of their own drummer and go their own way. In relationships they make it up as they go. They’d rather live authentically than in harmony. They won’t necessarily behave the way society expects them to, they do what feels true to them. They will seek truth even if it upsets others. They can shock, horrify, embarrass, or just generally make people feel uncomfortable, but can also be exciting to be around. They include the nakshatras: Krittika, Ashlesha, Magha, Chitra, Vishakha, Jyeshtha, Mula, Dhanishta and Shatabisha.

In relationship, the Nakshatra of the moons of the couple are compared:

If both the Ganas (races) are the same then 6 points are given. The more people are alike, the less they scare and try to change each other.
Woman Deva and the man Manushya = 3 points.
Woman Deva and the man Rakshasa = 1 point.
Woman Manushya and the man Deva = 5 points.
Woman Manushya and the man Rakshasa = 3 points.

If the woman is Rakshasa Gana and the man Deva or Manushya Gana then 0 points, pairing up with a man with a Deva or Manushya Nakshatra is considered to bring troubles. According to classical texts, “quarreling will prevail and marriage will be unhappy.”

Only a man with his moon in a Rakshasa Nakshatra is considered compatible and is able to fully appreciate (and handle) a woman with her moon in a Rakshasa Nakshatra.

Carl and Ellie probably shared the same gana or temperment.
Carl and Ellie probably shared the same Gana or temperment.

According to the classical texts, a high Gana Kuta score keeps the couple “ever young, happy and increasing in love for one another.”

posted July 12, 2015 02:39 PM            

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If both the Ganas (races) are the same then 6 points are given. The more people are alike, the less they scare and try to change each other.

According to the classical texts, a high Gana Kuta score keeps the couple “ever young, happy and increasing in love for one another.”

Only a man with his moon in a Rakshasa Nakshatra is considered compatible and is able to fully appreciate (and handle) a woman with her moon in a Rakshasa Nakshatra.

When two people share the same temperment, it is easier for them to just “get” each other. They will tend to laugh at the same jokes, enjoy the same TV shows or movies, and agree on how to decorate. Best of all, they will be of comfort to each other in emotional situations and won’t try to change each other to being more “appropriate” or to “loosen up.”

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posted July 12, 2015 02:39 PM            

23,5/ 36 points
No Mangal dosha, as we are both manglik

Yoni Match Analysis 2 / 4
The boy’s yoni is Vyaghra and the girl comes under Simha yoni. This will be a happy and fruitful match, as these two people have a sound understanding of each other’s needs and deficiencies. The boy is honourable and intelligent enough to work well with the capable girl.He also admires her keen knowledge of timing and strategy, while she finds him reasonable and practical enough to depend on. On physical plane, they will find each other quite compatible.

Gan Match Analysis 6 / 6
The boy and the girl both comes under Rakshasha gan. This is one of the best combination as far as gan guna compatibility is concerned. The natives bring out each other’s qualities of patience, hard work, prudence and fore sight. In marital relationships, this combination enhances the durability of the union. The natives adherence to principle and mutual responsibility will make them stead fast and loyal friends. There could be mutual mutual interest in making the home a place of peace, spiritual retreat, mediation or religious or educational activity.Both natives will be interested in helping those less fortune than themselves.

We do have a high score in Tara and Bhakoot, as difference to Mr Sag and me
While a ZERO in Nadi.

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posted July 12, 2015 02:45 PM            

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Yoni Match Analysis 3 / 4
The boy’s yoni is Ashwa and the girl comes under Gow yoni. She is delicate sensible and kind hearted. She is cheerful and practical enough to inject humour and purpose into her life. He can be easily going with the gentle she (Gow) who is compassionate enough to over look his selfishness if he can liven up her moods and teach her the quickest route around her magnified problems. Both will very well attuned with each other’s moods and feelings. Physically, they will really enjoy the bliss of conjugal happiness.

Gan Match Analysis 6 / 6
The boy’s gan is Dev and the girl comes under Manushya gan. This is one of the best combination as far as gan compatibility is concerned. The natives help increase each other’s enthusiasm and impetus to constructive action. The girl can help the boy to implement religious, educational, social, legal or philosophical goals. The boy can help the girl to find constructive outlets for the expression of energy through action. They will encourage each other to uphold their shared goals and principles and they can become crusaders for worth while causes. They boost each other’s energy determination to accomplish what they set out to do.

but also some 0 points results

Bhakoot Match Analysis 0 / 7
The boy’s bhakoot rasi is Mesh and the girl comes under Kanya bhakoot. This is not a good combination as far as bhakoot compatibility is concerned. There are chances of developing differences of opinion on small issues, which could lead into quarrels fightings. Both are advised to curbed down their ego and should not allow relationships to go under big strain. At times, the natives tend to amplify each other’s fears and remind each other of past misfortunes.In general, the natives tend to have an oppressive emotionally stiffing influence on each other.

Nadi Match Analysis 0 / 8
The boy’s nadi is Aadi and the girl also comes under the same nadi. Since, both constellation falls under the same nadi, which is not a healthy combination for the longavity of the wedding life. However, if the both constellations are identical but in different charan or pad. There would be no danger of what so ever. In this context, one can always go for alliance without giving second thought to the proposal.

posted July 12, 2015 04:32 PM            

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Rakshasas are independent, innovative, creative, unconventional, eccentric and capable of breaking attachments and conventions. They’re willing to break the rules, live out loud, rock the boat, buck the system, march to the beat of their own drummer and go their own way. In relationships they make it up as they go. They’d rather live authentically than in harmony. They won’t necessarily behave the way society expects them to, they do what feels true to them. They will seek truth even if it upsets others. They can shock, horrify, embarrass, or just generally make people feel uncomfortable, but can also be exciting to be around. They include the nakshatras: Krittika, Ashlesha, Magha, Chitra, Vishakha, Jyeshtha, Mula, Dhanishta and Shatabisha.

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Thank you for sharing It's me, can't deny. Although I'm not loud either.

Is the race given in those reports a combination of all placements with the dominant one as the conclusion or is it only the Moon? Anyway, I want you, my fellow succubi, to list the temperaments of your vedic personal placements and tell me how you feel about them.

Never mind.

posted July 12, 2015 05:10 PM            

ASC Anurada Dev
Sun Moola Rakhasa
Mercury Moola Rakhasa
Venus Moola Rakhasa
Mars Anurada Dev
DESC Rohini Manuschya