posted July 16, 2015 06:06 AM            

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Originally posted by mir:

Clear and interesting ^ !, and let me know when you're blogging about it....

I have one Keet (insect scorp) in my life and wow yess.. it's so Obvious the things you say about it, I really can't fall for or even respect this guy without even having a proper reason for it! (well I'm the top of the food chain u know LOol)

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Mir, I will blog about every koot and compatibility in detail. Also, there is an interesting 7th house secondary test that I have discovered for compatibility or marriage pointer. It works for Navamsa, Lagna and Rashi charts and planets. Let's discuss it!

posted July 16, 2015 02:03 PM            

thank you for elaborating and giving such a thorough explanation and also an encouraging real-life example.
Your descripition makes a lot of sense to me, yes I couldn´t marry just anyone, and that is also true in terms of relationships.

As for love interests, well, I was checking the chart of the one who probably comes closest to this, even though it is just for research and curiosity sake really.

I am not sure what you mean with lord of the 7th house in Rashi, isn`t that the birth chart? And wouldn`t the house opposite of Lagna be the 7th house already?
Unless you mean Venus as natural ruler over relationships?

Well in this case, I do have Taurus in my 7th house in both, Rashi and Navamsa, so Venus is lord of my 7th house anyway.

As far as I see I have KETU in my 7th house in Rashi, and SATURN and KETU in my 7th house in Navamsa, all three of them in Taurus.

The gentleman interestingly has SATURN in his 7th house in Rashi (in Virgo) and SATURN and VENUS in his 7th house in Navamsa (in Capricorn), of course that means that his 7th house lord in Navamsa is conjunct VENUS.

As for aspects between our charts.

his 7th house lord in Rashi is MERCURY in ANURADHA;
my LAGNA (Rashi) is in ANURADHA, too.
My mars, lagnalord in Rashi is also in ANURADHA.

his 7th house lord Saturn in Navamsa is in DANISHTA; my Moon in Rashi is in DANISHTA,

apart from that:

my 7th house lord Venus (and Mercury and Sun) in Rashi is in MULA, his Moon (and Sun) in Rashi are in MULA as well.

my 7th house lord Venus in Navamsa is in ASHLESHA, his Lagna in Navamsa is in ASHLESHA as well.

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I also checked the friendships of the planets, though I do not quite grasp the one sided friendships.

So my Lagna-lord in Rashi is Mars, his Lagnalord in Rashi is Jupiter -
mutual friends

my Lagna Lord in Navamsa is Mars, his is Moon - friend and neutral?

my 7th house lord in Rashi is Venus, his is Mercury
- mutual friends

my 7th house lord in Navamsa is Venus, his is Saturn
- mutual friends

other than that:

my Moon in Rasi is ruled by Saturn, his by Jupiter
in Navamsi mine is ruled by Sun, his by Venus (Taurus-Moon).
- this speaks of neutral (Rasi) and enemies (Navamsa), however i find it interesting that my Rasi-Moon and his Navamsa Moon and vice versa are friends: does that mean anything?

The same happens with his Sun and my Moon;
neutral and enemies on each level, but friends on the mixed levels

Also I looked up his Mars and my Venus

his Mars in Rasi is Sun-ruled mine is ruled by Jupiter, so obviously they are friends.

posted July 16, 2015 09:40 PM            

I'm already delving into it to get some more general info for us NOVICES

Here some interesting things I found on a vedic astro board;

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In my experience, I've seen the koota system miss more than get things right. TBH, I think it's absolutely atrocious that people follow that without any regard for the whole chart.

Venus is definitely more important in the male chart, but it's still very important in the female chart as well. Venus symbolizes our values(likes/dislikes). It's the things we find beauty in. It's the planet of duality... harmony. It's very important and any connections to it will help very much to compatibility.

Jupiter is typically the karaka of the husband, while mars is sort of the "excitement" energy that the female is looking to fulfill.

To me though, the karakas are sort of secondary to the 7th lord and the 7th navamsa.

Navamsa and Rasi connections to me will always be the most important fundamental for compatibility.

Look at the 7th navamsa. The rasi, nakshatra, and any planets place here are very important. Look at the rasi lord of this in both the navamsa and the rasi. Navamsa is the energy of what the person is looking for, and rasi is sort of the how the person has categorized the information into thinking they are going to find it. This is extremely important.

Look at the rasi 7th lord, in the navamsa. This is the expectations that are placed on the partner, so it's usually rather important for the person to have some connection to this position.

I like Barbara Pijan's method of compatibility with the Rasi and the Navamsa... looking at the hits between the two. To me, that's the sort of crux of compatibility. Cross check the Moon, Nodes, Asc across the charts in the navamsa. I would also like to add that the Asc lord and the 7th lord are important as points of contact.

Moon(both nakshatra and rasi lord) are important. If two people are born with the nakshatra lord of the moon as enemies(such as Sun and Rahu),this COULD be problematic. Of course, this is only a partial picture when it comes to the moon as looking at the moon's nakshatra lord and the rashi lord in the rasi are important. If the nakshatra lord and rashi lord hit key points in the other person's chart(such as the moon, the nodes, or 7th lord) this could work out just fine.

Also the last point I'm going to make is that, sometimes it's almost impossible to predict whether a relationship will go right with astrology. There are so many interactions between every planet. Some things no astrologer will ever see no matter how good they are. So while predictions may work a good portion of the time, if something feels right you should go with it.

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Hm.. interesting ^. let us process ....

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Ceri, as the words above suggest I would also look at both 'NAKSHATRA lords' (next to the Rashi Lords) and how they interact. Friends/Enemies/Neutral ?

I have no idea how important those are - as they all seem to talk about the 'Moon/Rashi Lords' - but after reading the words above I assume they also have a big impact (well at least for both Moons I read).

Here u can find the Lord of your Nakshatra
(scroll a bit down);
http://www.dirah.org/nakshatras.htm

And here a general Enemy/friend table;
http://ommrudraksha.com/blog/82-planet-friends-friends-and-enemies-friendshi p-chart-astrology.aspx

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I was pretty amazed by the friendship mutuality in our case (reg. Sun/Moon/Asc);

The lord of our Moons in both Rasi and Navamsa Mutual frienship. Same case for the Lord of both our Asc in those charts (I guess that makes a bit up for our doomed quincunx asc's in both charts).
Lord of our Suns in Navamsa Mutual frienship. Only exception are the Rasi Sun lords with a Friendship/Neutral score.

Looking at the "NAKSHATRA Lords" of the Moons in both charts;

posted July 16, 2015 10:04 PM            

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VENUS and MARS in NAVAMSA technique / chart comparison.

Two of the more important positions in a chart are Venus(for males) and Mars(for females) in the navamsa. These two positions go far beyond relationships, they will have a dramatic impact on every single aspect of a persons life.
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Females typically need to become empowered. They want to release their inner individualism. They feel too gestalt, too in the background, too universalized. Mars in navamsa represents exactly what the female wish to release, what they want to become, what they want to stand out as.

Males on the other hand feel too distinct, always trying to put things together. Males want to feel as if they are supported, want to feel completed, want to be embraced, want they all encompassing nurturing energy. Venus navamsa position is what they feel will complete them. It represents that perfect compassion.

Both of these planets play a big role in all of the activities that every single individual undertakes. When it comes to relationships though, these locations are two of the most important placements in a chart. If the males venus in rashi matches the females navamsa mars, the male will see the energy that the female wishes to unleash and help pull it forward, and the female will feel as if the male is a symbol of something they need to move towards. If the females mars matches the males navamsa venus, the female will express herself in a way that makes the male feel completed, and the male will make the female feel as if she is accepted for her actions.

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OK, **Miracle**... what did I find? Exactly what the article suggests about the importance of the NAVAMSA Venus of the boy and the NAVAMSA Mars of the girl / compared to the girl's RASI Venus and boy's RASI Mars.

With my parents;

Dad;
Navamsa Venus - Leo
Mom;
Rasi Mars - Leo

&

Mom;
Navamsa Mars - Scorp
Dad;
Rasi Venus - Scorp

My gosh ^ !! (and the orbs ^ aren't even that wide with 5 and 9 degr. // but I know it's not so much about the orbs in vedic - not same nakshatras btw)

OK looking at ours... prrretty amazing also!;

His NAVAMSA Venus ; 25 Virgo
My RASI Mars; 25 Cap!!

My NAVAMSA Mars; 16,5 Leo
His RASI Venus; 19,5 Sag

DW trine! ^

posted July 17, 2015 06:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Hi Niki,

thank you for elaborating and giving such a thorough explanation and also an encouraging real-life example.
Your descripition makes a lot of sense to me, yes I couldn´t marry just anyone, and that is also true in terms of relationships.

As for love interests, well, I was checking the chart of the one who probably comes closest to this, even though it is just for research and curiosity sake really.

I am not sure what you mean with lord of the 7th house in Rashi, isn`t that the birth chart? And wouldn`t the house opposite of Lagna be the 7th house already?
Unless you mean Venus as natural ruler over relationships?

Well in this case, I do have Taurus in my 7th house in both, Rashi and Navamsa, so Venus is lord of my 7th house anyway.

As far as I see I have KETU in my 7th house in Rashi, and SATURN and KETU in my 7th house in Navamsa, all three of them in Taurus.

The gentleman interestingly has SATURN in his 7th house in Rashi (in Virgo) and SATURN and VENUS in his 7th house in Navamsa (in Capricorn), of course that means that his 7th house lord in Navamsa is conjunct VENUS.

As for aspects between our charts.

his 7th house lord in Rashi is MERCURY in ANURADHA;
my LAGNA (Rashi) is in ANURADHA, too.
My mars, lagnalord in Rashi is also in ANURADHA.

his 7th house lord Saturn in Navamsa is in DANISHTA; my Moon in Rashi is in DANISHTA,

apart from that:

my 7th house lord Venus (and Mercury and Sun) in Rashi is in MULA, his Moon (and Sun) in Rashi are in MULA as well.

my 7th house lord Venus in Navamsa is in ASHLESHA, his Lagna in Navamsa is in ASHLESHA as well.

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Ceri, I will elaborate, Lagna is not rashi. Lagna chart is your Ascendant chart. Rashi is your moon chart. Navamsa is your 9th harmonic chart or the spouse indicator chart. Strong Navamsa also gives strength to Lagna and/or Rashi planets. So, there are 3 charts to consider for match-making.

posted July 17, 2015 06:55 AM            

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Originally posted by mir:
Another thing that seems really worth to process....

[QUOTE][b]VENUS and MARS in NAVAMSA technique / chart comparison.

Two of the more important positions in a chart are Venus(for males) and Mars(for females) in the navamsa. These two positions go far beyond relationships, they will have a dramatic impact on every single aspect of a persons life.
'
Females typically need to become empowered. They want to release their inner individualism. They feel too gestalt, too in the background, too universalized. Mars in navamsa represents exactly what the female wish to release, what they want to become, what they want to stand out as.

Males on the other hand feel too distinct, always trying to put things together. Males want to feel as if they are supported, want to feel completed, want to be embraced, want they all encompassing nurturing energy. Venus navamsa position is what they feel will complete them. It represents that perfect compassion.

Both of these planets play a big role in all of the activities that every single individual undertakes. When it comes to relationships though, these locations are two of the most important placements in a chart. If the males venus in rashi matches the females navamsa mars, the male will see the energy that the female wishes to unleash and help pull it forward, and the female will feel as if the male is a symbol of something they need to move towards. If the females mars matches the males navamsa venus, the female will express herself in a way that makes the male feel completed, and the male will make the female feel as if she is accepted for her actions.

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Edit@

OK, **Miracle**... what did I find? Exactly what the article suggests about the importance of the NAVAMSA Venus of the boy and the NAVAMSA Mars of the girl / compared to the girl's RASI Venus and boy's RASI Mars.

With my parents;

Dad;
Navamsa Venus - Leo
Mom;
Rasi Mars - Leo

&

Mom;
Navamsa Mars - Scorp
Dad;
Rasi Venus - Scorp

My gosh ^ !! (and the orbs ^ aren't even that wide with 5 and 9 degr. // but I know it's not so much about the orbs in vedic - not same nakshatras btw)

OK looking at ours... prrretty amazing also!;

His NAVAMSA Venus ; 25 Virgo
My RASI Mars; 25 Cap!!

My NAVAMSA Mars; 16,5 Leo
His RASI Venus; 19,5 Sag

DW trine! ^

WOW![/B][/QUOTE]

Mir that's interesting finding. I will delve into my findings now, also will elaborate my parents and sisters compatibility analysis in the next post. Here is my chart with my current love interest.

His Navamsa 7th lord and My Lagna (ascendant chart) 7th lord in the same sign.

His Lagna 7th lord same sign with my Navamsa Mars and his Lagna Venus same sign with my Navamsa 7th lord!

Sounds cool!

posted July 17, 2015 11:43 AM            

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Originally posted by NikiVenus6:
Ceri, I will elaborate, Lagna is not rashi. Lagna chart is your Ascendant chart. Rashi is your moon chart. Navamsa is your 9th harmonic chart or the spouse indicator chart. Strong Navamsa also gives strength to Lagna and/or Rashi planets. So, there are 3 charts to consider for match-making.

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O thank you for explaining. I did not know that!
So we are putting the Moon on the 1st house and then judge the planets in reference to that position?
Which sounds bad for my Rashi chart then, having Sun, Mercury, Venus in the 12th house from the Moon.

Anyway since my Moon is in Capricorn, then my 7th house in Rashi would be in Cancer, and hence Moon is 7th house ruler, too?

Mir,

posted July 17, 2015 07:30 PM            

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So we are putting the Moon on the 1st house and then judge the planets in reference to that position?

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Well, it goes like this I guess;

If you consider the rising sign/lagna as the 1st house then it is termed as a lagna chart and if you consider the Moon rasi as the 1st house then it is called as Moon chart.

^ so I guess the difference between a 'lagna chart' and a 'Moon chart' (for which we use the same chart) only lies in the houses and Lords of those?

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NIKI: His Navamsa 7th lord and My Lagna (ascendant chart) 7th lord in the same sign.

His Lagna 7th lord same sign with my Navamsa Mars and his Lagna Venus same sign with my Navamsa 7th lord!

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Niki, sounds interesting. + a Venus/Mars hit!
So it's more appropriate to name it "Lagna Venus" instead of "Rasi Venus" (to distinguish those from Navamsa planets)? And better to call it "His lagna 7th lord" than "His Rasi 7th lord"? (cause with the latter u would think it's the 7th lord from the Moon ofcourse / I see now)

posted July 17, 2015 08:37 PM            

Some important rules laid down by our Rishis (mentioned in Jyotish Ratnakar) to ensure happy married life are as follows :

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1)Married life remains good if the sign occupied by 7th lord of groom’s horoscope is the Moon sign of bride .

2)If the Rashi of female is the exaltation sign of 7th lord of male’s horoscope it is very auspicious yoga for the married life.

3)Happy married life can be predicted if the Rashi of bride is the debilitation sign of 7th lord of groom

4)If the sign occupied by Venus of male is the Rashi of female, married life is successful

5)Marital bliss remains intact if the sign occupying 7th house in male’s chart is the Rashi of female.

6)Married life remains good if the sign occupied by lagna lord is the Rashi of female

7)Married life remains perfectly good if the 7th sign from the Rashi of male is lagna of female.

8)Marriage proves successful if the lagna of female is the sign occupied by planet aspecting 7th from Rashi of male.

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http://www.futurepointindia.com/articles/research-articles/relevance-of-horosco pe-matching.aspx

posted July 17, 2015 09:42 PM            

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I like Barbara Pijan's method of compatibility with the Rasi and the Navamsa... looking at the hits between the two. To me, that's the sort of crux of compatibility. Cross check the Moon, Nodes, Asc across the charts in the navamsa. I would also like to add that the Asc lord and the 7th lord are important as points of contact.

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Most interesting is this in the NAVAMSA;

My Lagna Lord Mercury at 1,5 Cancer conjunct my RAHU at 2 Cancer. (IC = 5 Cancer btw / if that matters)

His Lagna Lord Saturn at 0,5 Cap conjunct his Lagna at 3,5 Cap.

(^ So his lagna lord on his ASC and my Lagna lord on his DESC / I can only assume this must be one hell of an attraction / and take with that the node alignment)

And now we add the RASI chart to the above;

My Venus (Moon ruler) at 5,5 Cancer.
His RAHU (nakshatra moon ruler) at 3,5 Cap.

(^ interesting to see a reversed node connection with this cross check)

So all of the above is really THE most outstanding thing in our Navamsa/Rasi comparison.

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Another cross check which is also pretty outstanding;

My Navamsa 7th ruler - Jupiter at 20'50 Cancer.
His LAGNA ruler (in lagna chart) - Jupiter at 18 Cancer.

The Exalted Jupiter!! ^ hehe (oow and this is a nakshatra hit also!)

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Edit@

I found another interesting cross check TRINE resonance;

His Navamsa Moon (7th lord) - 4 Pisces
My Rasi Venus (Moon lord) - 5,5 Cancer

My Navamsa Moon - 19,5 Aries (my Navamsa Venus 19,5 Leo btw)
His Rasi Venus - 19,5 Sag

DW trine ^!

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And.. ow well, ofcourse.. I'm just looking at tight orbs but this is also an interesting cross check;

My Rasi Venus in the sign of his Navamsa 7th
His Rasi Venus in the sign of my Navamsa 7th

(both same Nakshatra ^ / 2 & 6 orb to desc)

posted July 18, 2015 06:49 AM            

But his navamsa 7th lord is in my Moon-sign (of Lagna or Rashi chart - the signs stay the same, right? just the houses change?)
Actually they are both in DHANISHTA.
And though orbs do not seem to matter that much, his Navamsa 7th house lord is 28 Capricorn (and his Navamsa Venus 21 Capricorn), and my Rashi/Lagna Moon is 23 Capricorn.

"3)Happy married life can be predicted if the Rashi of bride is the debilitation sign of 7th lord of groom"
Why is that?
Isn`t debilitated bad?

"4)If the sign occupied by Venus of male is the Rashi of female, married life is successful"
Well, again this happens only from his Navamsa to my Rashi-
his Navamsa Venus in Capricorn (21 degrees), my Rashi MOon in Capricorn (23 Capricorn)

"5)Marital bliss remains intact if the sign occupying 7th house in male’s chart is the Rashi of female."
I know you probably get bored by the repeitions, but once AGAIN this is from his Navamsa to my Rashi. lol
Capricorn in his 7th house in Navamsa, my Rashi being Capricorn as well.

"6)Married life remains good if the sign occupied by lagna lord is the Rashi of female"
does not fit,

however I find it interesting, that his Lagna Lord is in Leo, and my Navamsa Moon is in Leo, too. Does that mean anything?

posted July 18, 2015 12:02 PM            

my Moon in Capricorn, his Venus in Capricorn (in Rashi), though not in the same nakshatra in the Rashi chart

posted July 18, 2015 02:56 PM            

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2)If the Rashi of female is the exaltation sign of 7th lord of male’s horoscope it is very auspicious yoga for the married life.

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Had this ^ with ex.
Almost 17 months of drama I would say. But well, it WAS the 2nd most intense relationship of my life (at least hehe).

We had rajju dosha + Vedha dosha (krittika & vishakha).

+ VASYA **magnetic attraction**!! (this is NOT the Vasya we have discussed on this thread btw and for which points are given although there are corresponding vibes with both as the word 'vasya' suggests) where Libra (me) was magnetically attracted to Taurus.

posted July 18, 2015 03:07 PM            

I am just picking up bits and pieces, well it seems we do not share the Venus-Mars-interlinks from Navamsa to Rashi,

posted July 18, 2015 04:56 PM            

A Venus/Mars cross check (where we check the RASI and NAVAMSA Venus of the guy compared to the RASI and NAVAMSA Mars of the girl) and we see this!;

A DW Venus/Mars quincunx, even in the same signs!

His Rasi Venus - Cap
My Navamsa Mars - Leo

His Navamsa Venus - Leo
My Rasi Mars - Cap

(Lord Sun & Saturn ^ are enemies as hell also!)

Orb 2 & 9!! (but again: it's not so much about the orbs in vedic)

posted July 18, 2015 05:27 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:

Mindblowing those Venus/Mars cross checks!

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Yes, yours are, definitely.

Ours - not. lol

just so you can see for yourself:

his Rasi Venus: Capricorn
my Navamsa Mars: Libra

posted July 18, 2015 05:34 PM            

Dad`s Navamsa Venus: Sagittarius
Mum`s Rasi Mars: Leo

Dad`s Rasi Venus: Capricorn
Mum`s Navamsa Mars: Taurus

posted July 18, 2015 05:57 PM            

in the Rashi chart his Leo Mars trines my Sagittarius Venus - and Jupiter and Sun get along well, too.

posted July 18, 2015 07:39 PM            

Some are rrreally negative / others endowed with roses only / be aware.

How are you and Mr Moola coming out of this? (if you dare to share lol).

http://www.salagram.net/Calendar-27nakshatras.htm

I will bravely start with mine / VISHAKA.

1st Pada: THE MOON AT: 20 degrees Libra to 23-20 degrees Libra:
envious, arrogant, ungentle; talented at business and astrology.

Let' s face it ^ haha

Ooww.. and Mr Satabhisha ofcourse;

4th Pada: THE MOON AT: 16-40 degrees to 20 degrees Aquarius: proud, happy and doing good for others; bitterness with their community.