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NikiVenus6
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posted July 09, 2015 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NikiVenus6     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This system is called "Guna Milap" system it means calculating your mental, emotional, physical, career, financial compatibility. It is used in India before getting the boy n girl married.

Check for a score of 18/36 for passing the test. Also, check for Mangal dosha and Nadi dosha. Mangal means mars, if this dosha or fault is present it means the one with this dosha will be the aggressor in marriage. Nadi dosha shows troubles with "having a child" in a couple. Let me know the scores!

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posted July 09, 2015 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know about that.
According to it my parents should never have gotten married in the first place.
And yet they are still so much in love with each other after over 40 years.

(of course there is much more to vedic than just the score of the matchmaking system, it is merely the beginning)


they have a score of 11; plus my dad has no mangal dosha, while my mom has a little.

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posted July 09, 2015 02:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NikiVenus6     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I know about that.
According to it my parents should never have gotten married in the first place.
And yet they are still so much in love with each other after over 40 years.

(of course there is much more to vedic than just the score of the matchmaking system, it is merely the beginning)


whats the score?

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posted July 09, 2015 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We have 26 points. No mangal dosha nor Nadi dosha (I guess you took one part out of their 'guna milap' system with nadi dosha).


Yes, this vedic moon matchmaking is very very interesting. It goes a bit further than only comparing the elements in western astrology when we keep our view restricted to both Moons only.

But.. to give it a start for everyone;

(that's how I got it all)


First find your NAKSHATRA here (scroll down to the vedic part);
http://www.cosmitec-astrological-compatibility-advice.com/moon-sign-compatibility.html[/ URL]

Vedic astrology does not work with the tropical (Western) zodiac, but with the sidereal zodiac. This means that you have to subtract approximately 23° from your tropical natal chart (as given by Astrodienst AG!)

(do not overlook that part ^^)


When u know your nakshatra(S) you can go to this page to discover in which you all both 'match' ;

[URL=http://www.cafeastrology.com/faqvedicastrologycompatibilityreport.html]http://www.cafeastrology.com/faqvedicastrologycompatibilityreport.html


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posted July 09, 2015 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for midnightvenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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To make it easier: Vedic Nakshatras to Western degrees

Ashwini = 26° Aries - 9°20' Taurus
Bharani = 9° 20' - 22° 40' Taurus
Krittika = 22° 40' Taurus - 6° Gemini
Rohini = 6° - 19°20' Gemini
Mrigrashirsha = 19°20' Gemini - 2°40' Cancer
Ardra = 2° 40' - 16° Cancer
Punarvasu = 16° - 29°20' Cancer
Pushya = 29°20' Cancer - 12°40'Leo
Ashlesa = 12°40' - 26° Leo
Magha = 26° Leo - 9°20' Virgo
Purva Phanguni = 9°20' - 22°40' Virgo
Uttra Phanguni = 22°40' Virgo - 6° Libra
Hasta = 6° - 19°20' Libra
Chitra = 19°20' Libra - 2°40' Scorpio
Swati = 2°40' - 16° Scorpio
Vishaka = 16° - 29°20' Scorpio
Anuradha = 29°20' Scorpio - 12°40' Sagittarius
Jyeshtha = 12°40' - 26° Sagittarius
Mula = 26° Sagittarius - 9°20' Capricorn
Purva Ashadha = 9°20' - 22°40' Capricorn
Uttra Ashadha = 22°40' Capricorn - 6° Aquarius
Sravana = 6° - 19°20' Aquarius
Dhanishta = 19°20' Aquarius - 2°40' Pisces
Satabhisha = 2°40' - 16° Pisces
Purva Bhadrapada = 16° - 29°20' Pisces
Uttra Bhadrapada = 29°20' Pisces - 12°40' Aries
Revati = 12°40' - 26° Aries

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posted July 10, 2015 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptunianAries     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I got 20 out of 36. In some points I got the highest and in others the lowest points..

I know another pair whose birth data I have. In western astrology they have double whammy venus-mars conjunction and many other nice aspects, bad aspects as well. They have been together for 5 years and are planning to marry. They got 16. I was quite surprised. But,you know, there are also other special calculations such as Upapada Lagna, Arudha Lagna. I didn't check them out for this couple. Maybe they have some special aspects of those al and ul.

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posted July 10, 2015 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptunianAries     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I got:

Varna: 1 out of 1
Vasya: 1 out of 2
Tara: 1.5 out of 3
Yoni: 1 out of 4
Maitri: 0.5 out of 5
Gana: 0 out of 6 (what?!)
Bhakoot: 7 out of 7
Nadi: 8 out of 8

in total 20/36 and it says he has hight mangal dosha and I have low mangal dosha. He has 12th house mars. My mars is in 11th house but according to moon chart it goes to 7th house so therefore a low mangal dosha might be present for me.

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posted July 10, 2015 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptunianAries     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wanted to calculate again the points of other couple I mentioned. And by mistake i did matched the girl from the couple and my bf. They got 27 out of 36,lol.

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posted July 10, 2015 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
28/36
With moons matching
'This marriage is preferable' lol

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posted July 10, 2015 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptunianAries     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by EmGem:
28/36
With moons matching
'This marriage is preferable' lol

It is super! Vedic is all about the moon rather than sun.

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posted July 10, 2015 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well, keep in mind that Vedic matchmaking system looks at the Mars placements and aspects ( and Moon too), and if Mars is unruly in the woman's charts or is acting out with the boy's Mars, you are going to be called for it
For the marriage to work, the woman is supposed to be subservient to her husband.
My Mars is in my 7th house in the Vedic chart, and that's a no-no per Vedic. I always get the " High Mangal Dosha" label and that a consultation with an astrologer is needed before proceeding with the marriage.

Other than that, my current matchmaking score is 25/36

I am not a fan.

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posted July 10, 2015 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:

I am not a fan.

Neither am I. At least not on a surface-level.

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NikiVenus6
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posted July 11, 2015 03:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NikiVenus6     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
well, keep in mind that Vedic matchmaking system looks at the Mars placements and aspects ( and Moon too), and if Mars is unruly in the woman's charts or is acting out with the boy's Mars, you are going to be called for it
For the marriage to work, the woman is supposed to be subservient to her husband.
My Mars is in my 7th house in the Vedic chart, and that's a no-no per Vedic. I always get the " High Mangal Dosha" label and that a consultation with an astrologer is needed before proceeding with the marriage.

Other than that, my current matchmaking score is 25/36

I am not a fan.


I think this is complete misinterpretation of the system is about. It is not your fault or somebody who takes it in that stride. A lot of people consider that because the so-called vedic astrologers just want to mint money by making a mountain out of a mole hill.

I will tell you what "Mangal Dosha" is about, it is about a person who has a dominant mars in the chart, which is not a bad thing. It is called "dosha" when the person you are marrying is having a "soft mars". Take a scenario, where the wife is an aries woman personified, she likes to lead and take charge everywhere. She is a career woman, a dominatrix but she meets an archetype of Cancer or Pisces man or say she meets a man with Mars in Cancer or Pisces. Will they be compatible, let's not get into too many details. She will be pushing him to climb up the ladder while he will feel "dominated" by her, She will be the aggressor in the relationship. When she will get completely frustrated over pushing him harder, she will look for the "STRONG MAN", ENTER MARS DOMINANT MALE AND NEXT MOMENT SHE WILL BE WITH HIM!

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posted July 11, 2015 04:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NikiVenus6     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I know about that.
According to it my parents should never have gotten married in the first place.
And yet they are still so much in love with each other after over 40 years.

(of course there is much more to vedic than just the score of the matchmaking system, it is merely the beginning)


they have a score of 11; plus my dad has no mangal dosha, while my mom has a little.


This is just a pointer, and I will tell you y there is this issue. It is because, some qualities have more points while others have less. You can check on individual qualities. You can see there is a couple who have a score of 24/36 but the girl never married the man. Synastry wise also they are compatible but if you check their "psychological compatibility" - http://www.scientificastrology.com/ http://astrobix.com/marriage/matchscore/ they were incompatible. Because the boy has the mentality of "Vaishya" and the girl of "Brahmin" which means being a merchant he can do anything for survival while she leans towards morals and principles, knowledge and spirituality.

The problem with the Vedic system, it has not been correctly interpreted as most work is in Sanskrit and those who knew this language tried to bring out their own meanings and misleaded the people so that they could use it for various superstitious rituals. Half of the Dosha remedies are fake and done for extracting money.

So, we have to extract, all the good and verify the irrelevant stuff.

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posted July 11, 2015 04:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NikiVenus6     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mir:
We have 26 points. No mangal dosha nor Nadi dosha (I guess you took one part out of their 'guna milap' system with nadi dosha).


Yes, this vedic moon matchmaking is very very interesting. It goes a bit further than only comparing the elements in western astrology when we keep our view restricted to both Moons only.

But.. to give it a start for everyone;

(that's how I got it all)


First find your NAKSHATRA here (scroll down to the vedic part);
http://www.cosmitec-astrological-compatibility-advice.com/moon-sign-compatibility.html[/ URL]

[b]Vedic astrology does not work with the tropical (Western) zodiac, but with the sidereal zodiac. This means that you have to subtract approximately 23° from your tropical natal chart (as given by Astrodienst AG!)

(do not overlook that part ^^)


When u know your nakshatra(S) you can go to this page to discover in which you all both 'match' ;

[URL=http://www.cafeastrology.com/faqvedicastrologycompatibilityreport.html]http://www.cafeastrology.com/faqvedicastrologycompatibilityreport.html


Succes.[/B]


Hey, Mir, there is sidereal time on astro.com. N, here is another interesting Vedic Compatibility method http://astrobix.com/marriage/panchpakshi/

It is like the Chinese system. I like this one, quite cool.

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posted July 11, 2015 04:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NikiVenus6     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NeptunianAries:
I got:

Varna: 1 out of 1
Vasya: 1 out of 2
Tara: 1.5 out of 3
Yoni: 1 out of 4
Maitri: 0.5 out of 5
Gana: 0 out of 6 (what?!)
Bhakoot: 7 out of 7
Nadi: 8 out of 8

in total 20/36 and it says he has hight mangal dosha and I have low mangal dosha. He has 12th house mars. My mars is in 11th house but according to moon chart it goes to 7th house so therefore a low mangal dosha might be present for me.


Should I explain at what respects you both are compatible and where you both should work?

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posted July 11, 2015 07:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NikiVenus6:
I think this is complete misinterpretation of the system is about. It is not your fault or somebody who takes it in that stride. A lot of people consider that because the so-called vedic astrologers just want to mint money by making a mountain out of a mole hill.

I will tell you what "Mangal Dosha" is about, it is about a person who has a dominant mars in the chart, which is not a bad thing. It is called "dosha" when the person you are marrying is having a "soft mars". Take a scenario, where the wife is an aries woman personified, she likes to lead and take charge everywhere. She is a career woman, a dominatrix but she meets an archetype of Cancer or Pisces man or say she meets a man with Mars in Cancer or Pisces. Will they be compatible, let's not get into too many details. She will be pushing him to climb up the ladder while he will feel "dominated" by her, She will be the aggressor in the relationship. When she will get completely frustrated over pushing him harder, she will look for the "STRONG MAN", ENTER MARS DOMINANT MALE AND NEXT MOMENT SHE WILL BE WITH HIM!


I am sorry to say, but the traditional vedic system, I mean the explanations, look very discriminative to me: gender discrimination and financial discrimination, plus an excessive interest in finances/money. Understandable, looking at it from a historic, political and cultural perspective. But an outdated view. Vedic astrology needs a serious makeover for it to be taken seriously.
A matchmaking system based on Mars (or any other single planet, or just a few planets) and on the dominator/submissive principle seems totally unrealistic nowadays, when no one needs to acquire a submissive wife anymore. Indian women should be the first to reject these past concepts.

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posted July 11, 2015 07:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NikiVenus6     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I am sorry to say, but the traditional vedic system, I mean the explanations, look very discriminative to me: gender discrimination and financial discrimination, plus an excessive interest in finances/money. Understandable, looking at it from a historic, political and cultural perspective. But an outdated view. Vedic astrology needs a serious makeover for it to be taken seriously.
A matchmaking system based on Mars (or any other single planet, or just a few planets) and on the dominator/submissive principle seems totally unrealistic nowadays, when no one needs to acquire a submissive wife anymore. Indian women should be the first to reject these past concepts.


LeeLo, looking at a system in a narrow perspective also needs to change. And who has said that this is the ultimate system? I have already cleared it that when as woman I have a strong mars I would be "happy" with a man having a strong mars meaning two Manglik people should marry. Nobody is asking for the woman to be submissive and there is no "mistreatment" of women in my culture or country. The concept of Shiv-Shakti, or Yin-Yang is of Vedic origin. Kaali is worshipped in India and nobody expects her to be submissive.

It is a simple thing, more or less like when a woman is Mars and man is moon. If the boy is "Manglik" he is supposed to marry a girl with Mangal or strong mars as well. It is about equal partnerships n not gender bias. Read this,

When your Moon aspects your partner’s Mars, or vice-versa, a sexual attraction is indicated. Traditionally, it has been thought that this aspect works best when the feminine partner is the Moon person, and the masculine person is the Mars person. This aspect indicates the union of female and male energies. It injects passion and an instinctual attraction to the relationship. It also makes for satisfying sex, as it blends emotional energies with physical passion. The Mars person is turned on by the Moon person, just as she is. Her basic femininity drives him absolutely wild.

On the downside, this aspect can lead to heated emotional arguments and hurt feelings. Particularly in the case of hard aspects between Moon and Mars, this aspect can result in hostility, violence, and volatility. The Moon person is likely to feel the Mars person is overly aggressive, while the Mars person feels the Moon person is moody and insecure. The Mars person easily offends the Moon person, while the Mars person may feel the Moon person is too touchy and sensitive. Mars may try to change the Moon person, and may become impatient with her.

My last relationship featured a double Moon-Mars synastry aspect (square and opposition). His Libra Mars irritated my Moon in Aries; he was very indecisive, which tended to grate on my nerves. My Mars in Aquarius squared his Moon in Taurus; I found him a bit judgmental, but I opened his mind to a variety of sexual experiences he had never indulged in before.
http://astrolady.wix.com/astrolady#!moon-mars-aspects-in-synastry/c1umf

This is the concept behind "Mangal Dosha". I hope it helps you to understand it better. Also, if your overall compatibility is good then Mangal dosha doesn't play the bad part. One more thing Mars gets matured after 30, why? Saturn return!
You have to do the research and not discard any system.

Again, it is just to check compatibility and the system may have errors. I never said it was the sent by god to be followed. Take the good parts n leave the rest!

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I didn't mean to offend you.
But saying that women in India have not been discriminated, in fact women all over the world, is not true It's an ongoing fight, and saying this does not help this fight.

That is a very good description of the Moon/Mars interplay. I appreciate you a lot as astrologer, already, although we have only interacted recently.

So how is this compatibility established? Where does the score come from? What gives plus, what gives minus?

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posted July 11, 2015 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptunianAries     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NikiVenus6:
Should I explain at what respects you both are compatible and where you both should work?



Yes,please. I would be very happy. Thank you

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posted July 11, 2015 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is why I mentioned I am not a fan when doing Vedic on a "surface level" (well not a fan of the surface level, in any system)

To understand and be able to apply it, you have to really study Vedic astrology. it is never enough to just use a calculator for moon matching (though it is fun and entertaining to do so).

And then even if you study it, you have to really weed through the stuff that is irrevelant or too gloomy of whatever, but without straying too much from the Vedic system, as it is a system of its own, and it cannot be mixed with Western astrology or undrestanding. WEll of course it can be mixed, but that will mislead any astrologer who tries doing that and cherrypick the rules they like.

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posted July 11, 2015 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ow my.. I'm so glad with Niki on board here

I can't stop delving into the depths of this Guna Milap system.

For example, I try to get insight about WHAT parts/aspects of this system are the most important and might cancel out others..

One not to underestimate aspect for example is VASYA koota and good heaven.. a focus on that only takes ages ;D I'm pretty blown away by the given results in my own life also.

In ancient days vasya koota was used in determining whether a husband will have influence on his wife or not. In this modern time vasya koota is considered to check whether there will be a compatible and dedicated relationship between the couple or not.

Basically/essentialy we are just the same as we ever were. So what is this else than a semantic matter?


But it's time to focus on the very depths of each part in this guna system and apply it to our own lives. What are the results? What do u see?

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posted July 11, 2015 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are you talking about this?
http://www.dari.co.in/matchmaking-vasya/

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posted July 11, 2015 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ yes that One. But I would also like to see an in-depth description about what this Vasya all MEANS (to BE a human/insect/wild etc. sign) so that we can literally feel what we're doing/researching here. I had a great site some days ago... will try to find that one and maybe Niki has some great info about it also.

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We got 24.5....

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