posted July 20, 2015 03:17 AM            

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Originally posted by mir:

Niki, sounds interesting. + a Venus/Mars hit!
So it's more appropriate to name it "Lagna Venus" instead of "Rasi Venus" (to distinguish those from Navamsa planets)? And better to call it "His lagna 7th lord" than "His Rasi 7th lord"? (cause with the latter u would think it's the 7th lord from the Moon ofcourse / I see now)

Just to make sure we talk the same language u know.

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Hey, I am back I was not well. It is Ascendant or Lagna Venus, Moon or Rashi Venus, Navamsa Venus.

3 Venuses of three charts lolz!

posted July 20, 2015 12:42 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
Another thing that seems really worth to process....

[QUOTE][b]VENUS and MARS in NAVAMSA technique / chart comparison.

Two of the more important positions in a chart are Venus(for males) and Mars(for females) in the navamsa. These two positions go far beyond relationships, they will have a dramatic impact on every single aspect of a persons life.
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Females typically need to become empowered. They want to release their inner individualism. They feel too gestalt, too in the background, too universalized. Mars in navamsa represents exactly what the female wish to release, what they want to become, what they want to stand out as.

Males on the other hand feel too distinct, always trying to put things together. Males want to feel as if they are supported, want to feel completed, want to be embraced, want they all encompassing nurturing energy. Venus navamsa position is what they feel will complete them. It represents that perfect compassion.

Both of these planets play a big role in all of the activities that every single individual undertakes. When it comes to relationships though, these locations are two of the most important placements in a chart. If the males venus in rashi matches the females navamsa mars, the male will see the energy that the female wishes to unleash and help pull it forward, and the female will feel as if the male is a symbol of something they need to move towards. If the females mars matches the males navamsa venus, the female will express herself in a way that makes the male feel completed, and the male will make the female feel as if she is accepted for her actions.

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Edit@

OK, **Miracle**... what did I find? Exactly what the article suggests about the importance of the NAVAMSA Venus of the boy and the NAVAMSA Mars of the girl / compared to the girl's RASI Venus and boy's RASI Mars.

With my parents;

Dad;
Navamsa Venus - Leo
Mom;
Rasi Mars - Leo

&

Mom;
Navamsa Mars - Scorp
Dad;
Rasi Venus - Scorp

My gosh ^ !! (and the orbs ^ aren't even that wide with 5 and 9 degr. // but I know it's not so much about the orbs in vedic - not same nakshatras btw)

OK looking at ours... prrretty amazing also!;

His NAVAMSA Venus ; 25 Virgo
My RASI Mars; 25 Cap!!

My NAVAMSA Mars; 16,5 Leo
His RASI Venus; 19,5 Sag

DW trine! ^

WOW![/B][/QUOTE]

Mir, His Rashi Venus in Scorpio and My Navamsa Mars in Taurus, as per Vedic astrology it's great match (opposite signs are considered to be best mates) Even otherwise, I feel Taurus and Scorpio get along.

But my Rashi Venus in Pisces and his Navamsa Mars in Sag! Bad aspect! Only same ruler Jupiter. Guess what, my Venus in Navamsa is in Pisces and it also squares his Navamsa Mars, but his Rashi Mars is in Scorpio.

posted July 20, 2015 12:48 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
Now I understand this apparently important set of rules (I read some days ago) also a bit better;

Some important rules laid down by our Rishis (mentioned in Jyotish Ratnakar) to ensure happy married life are as follows :

http://www.futurepointindia.com/articles/research-articles/relevance-of-horosco pe-matching.aspx

We fall under 7. Where do u fall?

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We are number six, his lagna is my rashi! plus an add on, his rashi is my Navamsa Lagna and Venus sign.

posted July 20, 2015 01:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Mr Moola then.
lol

in the Rashi chart his Leo Mars trines my Sagittarius Venus - and Jupiter and Sun get along well, too.

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dat's cool!

I like trines.

posted July 20, 2015 05:52 PM            

(asura = Rakshasa, guys)

Niki I made a big mistake with my parents. So I start to think that those RULERS might be a bit more important... (wanna know more about this ruler issue)

Namely, it wasn't a DW conjunction but this;

Dad's Navamsa Venus - Scorp
Mom's Rashi Mars - Leo

Dad's Rashi Venus - Scorp
Mom's Navamsa Mars - Leo

So, a DW square! But.... The Sun and Mars are Mutual friends!

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Looking a bit unorganized at some famous couples - still quite out of habit where to look at - ....

.. striking that Brad Pitt got together with 2 women (Jennifer and Jolie) with their Navamsa NN at 28-29 degree Leo / he himself has a Navamsa NN at 2 Pisces - in the vedic realm it wouldn't be called an opposition while in fact it IS.. (no idea how truly relevant a sign switch actually is / astronomically) /// His nav chiron at 28-29 Aqua / yea I can't help looking at tight orbs / must be my western nature somehow.

Another thing that grabbed me by the throat;

Jolie's Navamsa Moon 18'09 SAG
Pitt's Navamsa Moon 17'24 SAG

posted July 21, 2015 12:01 PM            

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Originally posted by mir:
Niki welcome back asura sis!

(asura = Rakshasa, guys)

Niki I made a big mistake with my parents. So I start to think that those RULERS might be a bit more important... (wanna know more about this ruler issue)

Namely, it wasn't a DW conjunction but this;

Dad's Navamsa Venus - Scorp
Mom's Rashi Mars - Leo

Dad's Rashi Venus - Scorp
Mom's Navamsa Mars - Leo

So, a DW square! But.... The Sun and Mars are Mutual friends!

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Looking a bit unorganized at some famous couples - still quite out of habit where to look at - ....

.. striking that Brad Pitt got together with 2 women (Jennifer and Jolie) with their Navamsa NN at 28-29 degree Leo / he himself has a Navamsa NN at 2 Pisces - in the vedic realm it wouldn't be called an opposition while in fact it IS.. (no idea how truly relevant a sign switch actually is / astronomically) /// His nav chiron at 28-29 Aqua / yea I can't help looking at tight orbs / must be my western nature somehow.

Another thing that grabbed me by the throat;

Jolie's Navamsa Moon 18'09 SAG
Pitt's Navamsa Moon 17'24 SAG

huh wow ^.

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Wow indeed, let's get more into it Asura sis, with me n my love int "Rashi and Navamsa Lagna lords" are same = Jupiter!

Check what I found:
http://varahamihira.blogspot.in/2008/02/navamsa-lagna-in-various-houses-from.html

My love - Mr.Revati has Navamsa in 9th from Rashi. I have it 5th, but no explanation for it.

posted July 21, 2015 05:31 PM            

***Thus if the navamsa lagna is in the 11th from the rasi lagna, the 2nd house from it, which is 12th house gains prominence and the native can even attain moksha.***

My rasi Lagna - Leo
My navamsa lagna - Gem

Mr Satabhisha too! (I may only hope his tob = correct with 13:00 exact and a Navamsa lagna at 3,5 cap / but I think it IS seeing our impressive navamsa (lagna-lord) connections all together)

His rasi Lagna - Pisces
His navamsa Lagna - Cap

And so I wanted to know what Moksha was...

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In Indian religions and Indian philosophy, moksha (Sanskrit: मोक्ष mokṣa), also called vimoksha, vimukti and mukti,[1] means emancipation, liberation or release.[2] In the soteriological and eschatological sense, it connotes freedom from saṃsāra, the cycle of death and rebirth.[3] In the epistemological and psychological sense, moksha connotes freedom, self-realization and self-knowledge.[4]

...

This liberation is an epistemological transformation that permits one to see the truth and reality behind the fog of ignorance
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Moksha in this life includes psychological liberation from adhyasa (fears besetting one’s life) and avidya (ignorance or anything that is not true knowledge).[23]
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moksha is unworldly understanding, a state of bliss.

Moksha, suggests Shankara,[23] is that final perfect, blissful state where there can be no change, where there can be no plurality of states. It has to be a state of thought and consciousness that excludes action.[

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(from wiki)

posted July 21, 2015 06:52 PM            

Look at this;

If Satabhisha was born 1 minute over 13:00 it wouldn't be a lagna at 3,5 Cap but 8 cap! 5 minutes later 0 Aqua!

So it's a matter of seconds before 13:00 and it would be a SAG Lagna.

Wow!

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posted July 24, 2015 06:51 AM            

Nevertheless my birthime is rectified, I put hours into this, just to come up with the birthtime originally given on the birthcertificate. LOL

I also took a lot time rectifying Mr Moolas birthtime, the one he gave me (obviously a rounded one) was 4 minutes earlier actually, with a Pisces ASC (tropical) the rectification is a nightmare, as Pisces is a fast ascending sign (meaning it just takes an hour or so for moving through all Pisces.)

posted July 24, 2015 03:43 PM            

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Another thing. Called STRII DIRGHA.

I now found out that there are 3 things you better would NOT have together (rajju dosha / vedha dosha AND a-lack-of STRII DIRGHA)

Unfortunately WE share the blemish of NO Strii Dirgha.

In fact, it's very simply to determine this yes-or-no blemish;

Strii Dirgha exists for a couple when the Nakshatra that contains the Moon of the male is more than 13 Nakshatras (some say more than 10 nakshatras) AHEAD of the Nakshatra that contains the Moon of the female

^ In Western terms your Moon has to be AHEAD of his'.

Example;
His Moon Gem
Your Moon Libra

^ Your Moon is AHEAD of his, which is great.

His Moon Libra
Your moon Gem

^ Blemish.

Globally, the further away his Moon from yours the better.

But now here the text I found about it... it took my breath away, really!

So, do YOU share a lack-of Strii Dirgha, and if yes, do you resonate with the text below?

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Strii-Diirgha

You don't have Strii-Diirgha matching. This means that the distance from the woman's Moon to the man's is not far enough; the shortest distance is from the woman's Moon to the man's. This causes the creative energy in the relationship to flow from the receptively centered female to the action and initiative centered male. Masculine energy and, therefore, most men feel most loved when their thoughts and actions are respected. Feminine energy and, therefore, most women feel most loved when their feelings are respected and they are loved for themselves, rather than for what they do. Since Strii-Diirgha is not present the energy tends to flow from the woman to the man, causing her to initiate more of what happens in the relationship. This causes the woman to wonder and question if the man is really there for her; if he thinks of her and loves her, since she is doing more, investing more, etc. in the relationship. She generally finds it more difficult, therefore, to feel secure in the relationship. The man, in fact, usually does think of her, but before he is ready to begin or initiate something, it is already getting too late for her and by then she feels like she has to get things moving. She also does not have the opportunity to be cherished and loved for herself, since she is more often thrown into the active, doing role in the relationship. The man also suffers as a result of Strii-Diirgha not being present. Since the creative energy tends to flow from the woman to the man, he has little opportunity to have his actions and thoughts respected, resulting in him not feeling loved. Before he has finished a thought or initiated an action, the woman most likely has already done so or, if not, she has already asked him to do it. If she has already done so, then there is no room for him to be appreciated for what he may do for the woman. And worse, if she always asks him to do stuff, then he begins to feel pressured or nagged.

Feminine energy bonds when it receives, masculine energy bonds when it gives. (When a woman receives a gift from a man, she feels, "He loves me." When a man receives a gift from a woman, he thinks, "Great, I don't have to spend my time shopping for underwear, etc." and then he may think, "How nice/sweet of her." Only occasionally will he think, "Wow! She loves me.") Therefore, when Strii-Diirgha is not present and the energy flows from the woman to the man and the woman is put into the more active, doing, giving role and the man into the more receptive role, neither person bonds fully to the other. However, feminine energy bonds stronger sexually than does masculine energy, so after having sex the woman ends up being more bonded to the man than he is to her. Strii-Diirgha not being present has not allowed the man the opportunity to invest in giving the necessary time, energy, money, thoughts, etc. into the relationship that would bond him to the woman. The result is that eventually the woman is more bonded to the man than he is to her and so even though she may do everything for him, he will eventually leave her. That is why this matching is called Strii-Diirgha- length of wife, if it is not present the relationship does not last long and the woman suffers most because she ends up being the more bonded of the pair. If, on the other hand, the relationship does last longer, then the woman usually ends up drained from all her doing, until finally she has to leave. The lack of her being cherished and not receiving has not recharged her.

Since the communication between the two hemispheres of the brain in a woman's brain is much faster than that in a man's, a woman has a lower capacity to do something she has planned when she no longer feels like it than does the man, since her emotions can so suddenly override the rational, determined side of her brain. Therefore, in times of duress in the relationship, since Strii-Diirgha is not present, the woman, who may be emotionally sick of the relationship at the moment, is forced into the role of deciding what to do with the relationship. At that moment, her emotions having a high capacity to overrun the rational side of her brain can cause her to forget about the good the relationship has given and any commitment made, she can only feel that the relationship is perhaps not meant to be. So she goes to the man and says, "I don't think we should be together." The man replies, "maybe you are right," because the lack of Strii-Diirgha has not allowed him to organize his thoughts and decide how to handle this problem, and he doesn't want to risk infuriating or hurting the woman more by arguing at that moment. This reply usually makes the woman feel worse, because what she really needs to hear is, "We have a pretty good relationship and love each other, we can work this little problem out, etc." Not hearing this, she does not feel secure in the relationship, and even if they do get back together in a few days or few weeks time, the foundation of security has been weakened.

Since the communication between the two hemispheres of the brain in a man's brain is much slower than that in a woman's, a man has a lower capacity to do take in something new when he is already engaged with something else and see how he honestly feels about it. Therefore, since Strii-Diirgha is not present and the energy in the relationship flows from the woman to the man, the woman may often come to the man and propose something to him while he is otherwise engaged. It can actually take him 20 minutes just to see how he feels about her proposal, during which time he is generally feeling irritated, pressured or nagged and she is felling unimportant, not heard, or not cared about.

As can be seen, Strii-Diirgha not being present can create a host of problems. It is, in fact, one of the main reasons that relationship fail after time. Fortunately the worst effects of Strii-Diirgha are avoided and the relationship becomes possible if Rasi Kuta is met, or if there is an exception to Rasi Kuta not being met, so keep reading and find out if you will be able to make this work.

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posted July 24, 2015 03:52 PM            

We do have it though. My MOon in Capricorn, his in Sagittarius.

found a site again
http://www.prokerala.com/astrology/porutham/?compatablity_system=kerala&gyear=1974&gmonth=12&gday=18&ghour=7&gmin=7&gapm=am&glocation=Monchengladbach&gloc=2869894&byear=1979&bmonth =12&bday=19&bhour=12&bmin=34&bapm=pm&blocation=Wuppertal&bloc=2805753&p=1

How to Interpret Marriage Horoscope Matching Result:

Star Matching : How to interpret the Marriage Match Chart

Uthamaouthama (Very Good): When the porutham is greater than 6.5
Uthama (Good): When the porutham is between 5.5 to 6.5
Madhyama (Average): When the porutham is between 4 and 5.5
Adhama (Bad): When the porutham is less than 4
Reset Porutham / Calculate Again

10 Poruthams and Your Compatibility

Porutham Boy Girl Result
Dina Porutham Moola Dhanishta Good
Gana Porutham Asura Asura Good
Mahendra Moola Dhanishta Not Satisfactory
Stree Dhrirgham Moola Dhanishta Good
Yoni Porutham Male Female Good
Veda Porutham Moola Dhanishta Good
Rajju Porutham Prathama Madhyama Good
Vasya Porutham Dhanu Makara Not Satisfactory
Rasi Porutham Dhanu Makara Good
Rasyadhipa Jupiter Saturn Good
Based on the input you provided, the boy and girl has 8/10 poruthams and your marriage compatibility is Uthamaouthama.

Dina Porutham

Boy's nakshatra Moola is in 24th postion from girl's nakshatra Dhanishta. For this couple Dina Porutham is Good.

Gana Porutham

The girl belongs to Asura gana and boy belongs to Asura gana. For this couple Gana Porutham is Good.

Mahendra

Boy's Nakshatra Moola is in 24th position from girl's nakshatra Dhanishta. For this couple Mahendra Porutham is Not Satisfactory.

Stree Dhrirgham

Boy's Nakshatra Moola counted from Girl's nakshatra Dhanishta is in 24th position. For this couple Stree Dhrirgham Porutham is Good.

Yoni Porutham

Boy's nakshatra belongs to Male yoni and girl's nakshatra belongs to Female yoni. For this couple Yoni Porutham is Good.

Veda Porutham

Boy's nakshatra and Girl's nakshatra have no affliction. So there is veda porutham. For this couple Veda Porutham is Good.

Rajju Porutham

Boys rajju is Prathama and Girls rajju is Madhyama. For this couple Rajju Porutham is Good.

Vasya Porutham

Boy's rasi is Dhanu and Girl's rasi is Makara. Here Boy's rasi is not the vasya rasi of Girl's rasi. For this couple Vasya Porutham is Not Satisfactory.

Rasi Porutham

Boy's rasi is Dhanu and Girl's rasi is Makara. Boy's rasi Dhanu is in 12th position from Girl's rasi Makara. For this couple Rasi Porutham is Good.

Rasyadhipa

Boys rasyadhipan is Jupiter and girls rasyadhipan is Saturn. Jupiter and Saturn are freinds. For this couple Rasyadhipa Porutham is Good.

posted July 24, 2015 04:35 PM            

But what a BAD score we have hahaha;

Your Marriage Compatibility is Madhyama (5/10)

posted July 24, 2015 04:41 PM            

Our score is 8/10 in Kerala system
and 7.5/10 in Tamil system

It seems in Kerala Jupiter and SAturn are seen as friends and in Tamil as neutral, which explains the 0.5 points difference.

posted July 24, 2015 04:46 PM            

Dina: satisfactory
Gana: good
Mahendra: non satisfactory
Stree Dirga: good
Yoni: satisfactory
Veda: good
Rajju: good
Vasya: not satisfactory
Rasi: good
RAshyadypa: satisfactory

posted July 24, 2015 04:49 PM            

only thing that is non satisfactory is Mahendra.

posted July 24, 2015 04:54 PM            

But they have non satisfactory:
Gana
stree Dirga
Rasi

good:
Dina
Mahendra
Veda
Rajju
Vasya

posted July 25, 2015 01:30 AM            

Kerala System: 7.5/10
Tamil System 8.5/10

But never married my ex...