posted August 08, 2015 05:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:

So, sex fascinates me for the power it holds over people. And, I've learnt, in certain circumstances, I myself am not immune. It's a bit like a 64-bit encrypted password, however. The probability is exceedingly low.

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LOL hahahahaha I Love it, I love it...Great metaphor.

posted August 08, 2015 05:27 PM              

in the moment I feel it, I feel it. There is nothing illusiory about it. However it could be fleeting. just temporary, but that doesn´t mean that the moment`s feeling was not true.

The only time a feeling is illusionary or not true, is when it is not a feeling at all, but just something you TALK yourself into or if it comes from your head soley rather than from your heart or inside your body.

posted August 08, 2015 05:31 PM              

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
auby,

I wrote you a mail concerning your question.

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posted August 08, 2015 05:58 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I think this is an interesting question, not silly at all! I wanted to ask the same, to women.
For me, it's mostly an oral thing....don't get any ideas ...just yet I mean, I want to kiss and eat the person (and my mouth is ready, like for a piece of cake haha). About other physiological consequences, I notice them afterwards, but I am not aware of them ( I am talking attraction from a distance here, no actual physical interaction).

How about you girls? Are you aware of focused arousal (similar to men's)?

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Oh, fascinating! And I'm glad that you don't find it too quirky. I'm always trying to learn from evaluating many perspectives outside of my own.

Would you say you literally salivate to a degree? That there's an actual physiological response?

de Botton (one of my absolute favourite philosopher-theorists) says that the kiss is the moment that existential isolation ends. That, outside of the biological reasons, we long to kiss one to whom we are attracted (regardless of the purpose of the attraction) so that we can shatter the solitude, and explore the potential for intimacy together. That's a fantastic theory, and one that struck a deep chord within me.

With my husband, it was a dive-bomb sort of kiss. He completely caught me off-guard, and the kiss was a validation for me. I couldn't fathom that he was ever attracted to me, or saw me as anything but the-girl-in-the-office. So when we met up for coffee, which became dinner, as he was giving a lecture at a college and it ran late (long story) and his apple martini gave rise to his admitting to me to admit, 'c'mon, you've always felt a chemistry between us.'

What was funny was that I was playing off of a bizarre script -- another schema in my head, as he fit that archetype to an eerie 'T'. Yet, it was the skirt-chasing, womanising, lacking-empathy but charismatic and, deep down means well, but can't view women outside of through the lens of sex -- archetype. Ergo, I'd decided long ago I was never going to fall in love with him, thus, ever sleep with him.

Best laid plans. For awhile there, I thought I was wrong about the whole thing. Then, the longer I got to know him -- I realised I was kinda right! It's complicated.

I think I was more attracted to the idea of him than anything then; actually, I know I was. I loved being able to shed the prudish facade everyone had attributed to me. It'd been two years, and I'd done a lot of evolving. Sort of a Peggy Olson thing (minus the sexual escapades) to pull from Mad Men. I'd been seen as the mousy introvert, and written off as such. Then respected for being a brilliant intellectual, to which the nerd label was then applied -- and, again written off. It was fun to try on the sexually liberated woman mask, which I knew I'd have to if I wanted to snag him at all. And, I did. He was kind of a conquest. But, hey. Turns out I was, too. I just taught him how to love -- to really love, and he got me in touch with how OUT of touch I was with my emotions. And then the kiddo just sealed the deal.

The first kiss with my boyfriend was quite different. I honestly don't recall the circumstances leading up to it. We'd just done a photo shoot for the past 2 hours, and, as we'd already determined that we wanted to explore a romantic dimension to our present working relationship and friendship, spending time together afterwards wasn't unusual. Though we'd usually watch a few episodes of a series together, work on the script, if we weren't outright recording demos for our own series. Many times, we'd just talk, for hours. It just depended.

But this one was different. Someone must've read the body language of the other, because we were just embracing each other for a longer time than usual. He was saying a few ... odd things, which I didn't realise until later. It was kind of a flurry. He held me so tightly, and was so, terribly nervous, almost trembling. He'd said how he didn't think he would ever find me -- or that I even existed. He was starting to wonder if he left Texas too soon, and he should've returned, and found me years ago. That he was 'waiting' in Los Angeles, but began to wonder if he 'didn't understand correctly', and was even more confused when he met me -- engaged to another man.

I didn't know what to say. I was pretty flustered and overwhelmed, too.

Nonetheless, he was so relieved that he found me now, even in the circumstances, and we would make them work, together. Then we engaged in a mutual hunting and 'pecking' expedition of sorts. We kissed every inch of each other's faces BUT our lips: foreheads, even eyelids, chins, and that area just before the ear. Heh. It was almost as if we were delaying it as long as humanly possible. Then we both decided to go for it -- finally, though maintaining the same sort of strange chasteness we'd been exhibiting. It was slow, hesitant, and cautious -- not a bit unlike the very first kisses in which we engage in our youth. When we've no idea what we're doing, or what to truly expect.

I wondered if he'd ever kissed anyone in his life, really, and I wasn't counting that crowd scene he was in, a la The Wedding Singer during the last period of his life prior in which he'd engaged in any sort of sexual activity -- which was extremely limited, and never within the context of a relationship.

He was too uptight, and, as usual, locked within his own self-discipline and need for control. I've helped him tremendously in this area, as passion explored through kissing is probably what I enjoy the most of everything. But I appreciate certain sexual intimacies for the knowledge of another they may yield, and that 'private, shared secret' among you. But, heh, it remains a tricky area for him.

posted August 08, 2015 10:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Delilah423:
Or maybe I'll just let you guess first

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posted August 09, 2015 12:36 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Odd, a bunch of posts got deleted from page 4, rencent posts.. Some from me, Gabby, Auby and Delilah.

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posted August 09, 2015 12:46 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Well, you know me, H.

My boyfriend and I are both asexual.

ARTEMIS conjunct PLUTO-BML (2º)
ARTEMIS parallel PERSEPHONE ('20)
It's also close to -- but 4º from -- my SUN. There are days I'm really tempted to count that, though. Since it's the SUN, and not that far out.

For him:

ARTEMIS conjunct EROS (0º)
ARTEMIS parallel PERSEPHONE ('40) (Huh!)
ARTEMIS conjunct KLIO (0º)

ARTEMIS parallel PERSEPHONE, along with a sexual asteroid (for me, BML, for him, EROS) conjunct ARTEMIS. Well, that's certainly interesting.

Then my ARTEMIS is opposite his MOON (1º), too.

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Wait your Artemis conjuncts your Sun by 4d????

I would count that bc is the sun and asteroids conjuncting the sun have a strong influence in the chart.

"If Artemis is found to be prominent in a chart, then the subject may find that they are perfectionists and are very choosy when it comes to a sexual mate. They will preserve their dignity at all costs and only let their guard down very slowly and after a great deal of trust has been earned. Externally they can seem puritanical, but they are far from frigid once the ice has melted. Remember Artemis has a wild and untamed side, so the virginity is not literal, she simply does not like having her sexuality owned or controlled. Artemis loves to stalk, but she abhors being stalked herself. With Artemis strong in the natal chart, passion is stimulated by the thrill of the chase, but these people are often surprisingly and abruptly cool, if the “beast” should start to chase them.

Artemis can be very defensive, but she will always protect the innocent and has a special affinity with children even if she never has any of her own. The subject will always retain the air of a teenager well into their mature years. Artemis people may not marry, but they will never be lonely since they always attract a gang of like-minded souls around them. They tend to travel with an entourage."

I have it conjunct my venus exact and I consider the woods, mountains and animals my family and friends and is why I felt more at home than ever when I was living in colorado strangely even though colorado is totally different from Miami or the Caribbean and I was far away from all my family and friends.

I also I am technically not married, I dont like the idea of feeling owned and I think that is why "I got married without getting married." I did the wedding for my mom and not for me so much but no marriage licenses or church involved just an exchange of vows and celebration in front of family, I can technically leave whenever I want and just walk out but I wouldn't. My husband and I just wanted to go to the top of a mountain and get married there just him and I without witnesses. I work with kids and kids love me, my husband is always surprised by how babies gravitate towards me and start smiling at me but I don't have kids of my own. I am almost 32 but everyone tells me I look 25 so I retain that youthfulness of Artemis, I do also have adonis conjunct DNA and Saturn.

I can give my soul to someone but at the same time I am free, that is a gift I give but I am still free and own myself and can share that gift with others as well if the right person comes a long as I am very selective of my sexual partners.

This quote really resonates a lot with me and my Artemis conjunct venus in the 8th from the movie "Hers":

Samantha: "I'm yours, and I'm not yours."

Have you seeing the movie? I bet you identify with the things I am saying a lot and with that movie too if your Artemis conjuncts your Sun.

Do watch "Her" and tell me what you think, I would love to discuss that movie with you. I honestly feel you would identify a lot with the main female character Samantha played by scarlet johansson but you only hear her voice the entire movie:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1798709/

Its actually a very philosophical and intellectual movie, its one of my favorite movies.

posted August 09, 2015 10:18 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Odd, a bunch of posts got deleted from page 4, rencent posts.. Some from me, Gabby, Auby and Delilah.

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posted August 09, 2015 12:29 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I would love to hear specially with atropos and pluto there...tell us !

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Drats. My post got deleted. Let's try again:

I usually don't see many close conjunctions in my chart, but this one is a little spooky:

Eros/Psyche Midpoint - 18 Leo 41
Pluto 19 Leo 7
Artemis 19 Leo 13
Atropos 20 Leo 23

I'd asked whether anyone wanted to hear about an old lady's sexual history with a conjunction like that, in the 8th House?

Artemis is also parallel my Sun and NNode.

posted August 09, 2015 04:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Delilah423:
Drats. My post got deleted. Let's try again:

I usually don't see many close conjunctions in my chart, but this one is a little spooky:

Eros/Psyche Midpoint - 18 Leo 41
Pluto 19 Leo 7
Artemis 19 Leo 13
Atropos 20 Leo 23

I'd asked whether anyone wanted to hear about an old lady's sexual history with a conjunction like that, in the 8th House?

Artemis is also parallel my Sun and NNode.

I still think some of you should guess, but I'll be back later to 'splain

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You waited till marriage or till you found your soulmate and had an active sex life with him that was very fullfiling maybe addictive and draining though, too intense perhaps.

Oh wow maybe that soulmate passed away while you guys were having sex at some point later in the relationship when he was older...

IDK.

posted August 10, 2015 02:34 PM            

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Originally posted by Delilah423:
Drats. My post got deleted. Let's try again:

I usually don't see many close conjunctions in my chart, but this one is a little spooky:

Eros/Psyche Midpoint - 18 Leo 41
Pluto 19 Leo 7
Artemis 19 Leo 13
Atropos 20 Leo 23

I'd asked whether anyone wanted to hear about an old lady's sexual history with a conjunction like that, in the 8th House?

Artemis is also parallel my Sun and NNode.

I still think some of you should guess, but I'll be back later to 'splain

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posted August 10, 2015 03:11 PM            

ARTEMIS was the great Olympian goddess of hunting, wilderness and wild animals. She was also a goddess of childbirth, and the protectress of the girl child up to the age of marriage. Her twin brother Apollon was similarly the protector of the boy child. Together the two gods were also bringers of sudden death and disease--Artemis targetted women and girls, and Apollon men and boys.

In ancient art Artemis was usually depicted as a girl dressed in a short knee-length chiton and equipped with a hunting bow and quiver of arrows.

Some of the best known myths featuring the goddess include:--

posted August 10, 2015 03:13 PM            

MC cancer@7.56
Artemis cancer@10.06
Valentine cap@9.50
Eros cap@9.00

My Apollo leo@22.09
My NN scorp@21.44

My Juno virgo@12.20
My Apollonia virgo@13.39
My Dejanira virgo@15.18

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Other Apollon focuses....
APOLLON: The multiplier: expansion and spreading; growth and increase. Science, commerce, trade, industry, peaceful efforts ... The glyph is a combination of Jupiter and Gemini, and Apollon is truly a Super-Duper-Jupiter.

posted August 10, 2015 03:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
asteroid Apollo, too (especially since Artemis is an asteroid herself) 1862

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posted August 10, 2015 03:32 PM              

his Apollo 26°02 Virgo
my Artemis 27°10 Pisces

posted August 10, 2015 03:34 PM            

Apollonians love to learn and add to their many talents. There is often interest in taking varied classes and developing many abilities. There is a deep questioning nature to Apollonians that leads them on a search for answers and fulfillment. This may result in a number of careers or interests in a lifetime as they seek to constantly add to their repertoire of knowledge. They may at times feel somewhat like "sponges" as they soak up many different bits of knowledge. They may appear to others like "professional students", or give the appearance of being unable to make up their minds as to what they wish to do. This is not the case. It is simply that Apollonians do not allow themselves to be limited to any one role, or definition of who and what they are. Any attempt by others to limit them or label them is very strongly and instantly resisted. This is one instance where the normally calm Apollonians will show a dramatic reaction. There may be situations where the Apollonian may feel that others are making attempts to limit, restrict or label them...regardless of the truth, if a situation creates this feeling, there will be a strong reaction.

There is a deep desire to be self-sufficient and avoid the need to depend on others, financially or emotionally. They may need to remind themselves at times to enjoy life and take time for pleasure, as they tend to be rather serious. This can be very obvious if they are focused on a pathway of learning or achievement. It should be noted that even the rare Apollonian who chooses a pathway of pleasure seeking and play rather than serious learning, will be just as deeply and fully focused on that pathway.

Many from Apollonia have work to do as Earth healers and feel a deep connection to the Earth and her needs. There is early recognition of energy fields, auras, spirit friends or angels, which leads them to be drawn to spiritual learning as a means of finding answers and explanations. These abilities with energy may lead them to do healing work at some point in their lives, either with the planet, animals or people. There is often an attraction to children and desire to help children and those who are helpless or in need. This could be as a parent, teacher, counselor, or simply an interested friend.

posted August 10, 2015 03:36 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
It is almost funny but

his Apollo 26°02 Virgo
my Artemis 27°10 Pisces

So we are brother and sister?

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posted August 11, 2015 09:32 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Delilah423:
[b] Drats. My post got deleted. Let's try again:

I usually don't see many close conjunctions in my chart, but this one is a little spooky:

Eros/Psyche Midpoint - 18 Leo 41
Pluto 19 Leo 7
Artemis 19 Leo 13
Atropos 20 Leo 23

I'd asked whether anyone wanted to hear about an old lady's sexual history with a conjunction like that, in the 8th House?

Artemis is also parallel my Sun and NNode.

I still think some of you should guess, but I'll be back later to 'splain

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posted August 12, 2015 03:23 PM            

Definitely a 'permavirgin' here, but Artemis doesn't really do anything interesting in my chart - apart from being in my 7th house. However, I have:

Pallas conjunct Saturn (less than 1 degree)
Pallas conjunct Nymphe (less than 1 degree)
Pallas conjunct Mars (4 degrees, not sure if that counts)
Pluto conjunct Diana (less than 2 degrees)
Diana conjunct Camilla (less than 2 degrees)

(And Venus square Pluto (less than 1 degree).)

All of that in the 3rd house, apart from Mars in the 2nd; and all in Libra, apart from Camilla in Scorpio.

It makes perfect sense to me, I think. I'm a very 'militant virgin' It may sound odd, but if somebody shows some kind of a sexual interest in me, I get angry. Of course I don't lash out unless the other person is rude, but deep down, I'm furious that anyone even DARES to think of me that way. I've always been like that. It's a very 'Artemis' thing (poor Actaeon!), which makes me wonder why Artemis is so inactive in my chart. But I suppose it's a very Diana and Camilla type of thing, as well.