posted August 07, 2015 04:34 PM            

His sun conjuncts Artemis.

posted August 07, 2015 04:43 PM              

Is my Artemis prominent?
I don´t know. It is not conjunct anything int ropical, though it is conjunct my Draco Mars, Draco ASC and Draco Neptune.

in tropical it squares my Sun with an orb of 1°14.

Hmm other than that there is the exact trine to Valentine, making a Grand trine to Nike (victory).
I don`t know maybe my Artemis can only be conquered/ overcome (Nike) by true love (Valentine). or something like that. lol

posted August 07, 2015 05:09 PM            

PHASE 143 (LEO 23°): IN A CIRCUS THE BAREBACK RIDER DISPLAYS HER DANGEROUS SKILL.

KEYNOTE: The audacity and perseverance required to control and play with the powerful energies of the vital realm in human existence.

The horse has always been the symbol of the vital energies. In a wild state the horse represents the magnificent, raw, impetuous energy of the libido in all its forms. When tamed, this energy is put to man's service. There are men who have dominated their natural energies so well that they can perform spectacular feats. Here these achievements are seen within the context of a social function and expressing a flair for dramatics.

At this third stage, the ego is in control; he is a great showman, but he serves a purpose. The performance stirs the imagination of the young consciousness. It raises the mind above the commonplace. The Keyword is VIRTUOSITY.

posted August 07, 2015 05:43 PM            

I was a virgin until married, I'd turned 20 the month before I had to marry. I was ashamed and embarrassed on our wedding day knowing everyone knew what was about to happen. Lol
I've long since overcame being prudish n shy, whew!!

posted August 07, 2015 06:07 PM              

I can very much relate to what you wrote about your brother.
It`s not that I am opposed to relationships or sex, I`ve just felt comfortable being single and did not feel a need to be in a relationshp, at least not if it was nto one I could really believe in.

Howver unerneath this all I suppose some insecurity issues do play a role. For me at least.

Gabby,

how interesting. Your Artemis also aspects your Valentine. even more dynamically than in myc hart. Though I find it interesting how close my trine between ARtemis-Valentine is, and like in your case my Artemis is in a water sign.

posted August 07, 2015 06:12 PM            

My boyfriend and I are both asexual.

ARTEMIS conjunct PLUTO-BML (2º)
ARTEMIS parallel PERSEPHONE ('20)
It's also close to -- but 4º from -- my SUN. There are days I'm really tempted to count that, though. Since it's the SUN, and not that far out.

For him:

ARTEMIS conjunct EROS (0º)
ARTEMIS parallel PERSEPHONE ('40) (Huh!)
ARTEMIS conjunct KLIO (0º)

ARTEMIS parallel PERSEPHONE, along with a sexual asteroid (for me, BML, for him, EROS) conjunct ARTEMIS. Well, that's certainly interesting.

posted August 07, 2015 08:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Ceri...I don't honestly have a clue what those aspects mean. I'm guessing the squares to Pluto on both ends would not let me be an asexual type, to much tension and energy needing an outlet and Pluto is that outlet. But still im not sure if that's an appropriate interp or possibly manifestation of those energies aspecting the way they are in my chart. I don't think I'm over sexed but probably more so that way than being asexual. Oversexed is not something I want to be at all.....i think sex should be about love and commitment(Eros/Valentine on my IC)

I just realized Artemis makes a kite in my chart...
Artemis cancer@10.06
Eros cap@9.00
Valentine cap@9.50
Juno virgo@12.20
Hera taurus@12.20

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OMG your kite is so cute and sweet . It totally fits your perception of sex and clearly illustrates your decision to wait till marriage.

posted August 07, 2015 09:14 PM            

I've got ARTEMIS conjunct my KLIO, too. 1°.

Quite the odd little hen party; with SUN (19°), FORTUNA (19°), BML-PLUTO-ASTARTE (21°) and HESTIA (22°) in attendance. (Well, poor PLUTO's the odd one out!)

Okay, NOW I'm intrigued.

You might get a rise out of this, too.

Another I've got conjunct my SUN (3°) is VIRGINIA (50) And, well, ATALANTE (36) (1°).

I'm swimming in the independent, somewhat feminist, empowered, female 'roids about my SUN, really.

We've both got AEGLE (96) hovering, too. His is conjunct his PROSERPINA (2°) and NYMPHE (1°). Near but not conjunct ARTEMIS -- 4°.

Similar story with me; my AEGLE is 21° Libra, conjunct my SUN, PLUTO, BML -- and ARTEMIS (2°). It's also square my NYMPHE (1°).

Meaning we both have ARTEMIS-NYMPHE aspects; my square (1°), and his conjunction (3°). Oh, that is curious. And we've both got ARTEMIS parallel KLIO as well? And these are from his 5H into my 8H, and my 11H into his 8H?

posted August 07, 2015 11:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
Auby

asexuality is lack of sexual desire and sexual attraction. Hence - preference to masturbate ( alone) when needed. A full blown erection/arousal during a kissing session followed by ejaculation definitely doesnt show a lack of sexual desire. He has shown this plenty, he is actually very, very sexual and erotic. What he displays or professes, thou, is abstention from sex, a choice for celibacy until certain needs are met. In his case - it's the need for a 100% commitment which I cant provide yet.

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You misunderstand. Aces can engage in -- and fully enjoy -- sex. But we don't need it. Many celibates -- and those who choose to abstain, and have no trouble doing so, are on the asexuality spectrum. That's merely all I'm saying. It's not so black-and-white as 'no sexual desire' or 'no sexual attraction'. There are varying levels and layers; even categories. Such as asexual romantic, or asexual aromantic.

posted August 08, 2015 12:01 AM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
Hypatia,
That explains a lot!

About my Aries, who refuses to have sex with me until we become exclusive, or engaged to marry.
We have been together for an year now yet he holds his junk off until marriage like a real virgin ( even thou he is not).
He is definitely not asexual as he is so easy to arouse, yet he avoids the act of sex until we tie the knot.
I could never understood that coming from a man.
I just checked his natal chart, and ta da - Artemis conjuncts his Sun and Valentine EXACT, 0 degree. GAH!

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posted August 08, 2015 12:04 AM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
well, Auby,
after all said and done, it again comes down to the same thing we both were talking about-
lack of sexual desire = "we dont need sex"

anyway, enough of that.
I still dont know what is it behind his actions but it's going to come to a conclusion at some point.

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I disagree. It's more fascinating if, as you've said, your boyfriend is intensely sexual but extremely disciplined. You might ask him sometime, how he would fare if you could never have sex. Would it be a deal-breaker for the relationship, or not?

That's where it can get interesting. Very, very interesting.

posted August 08, 2015 12:31 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
OMG your kite is so cute and sweet . It totally fits your perception of sex and clearly illustrates your decision to wait till marriage.

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posted August 08, 2015 12:36 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Orange:
Hypatia,
That explains a lot!

About my Aries, who refuses to have sex with me until we become exclusive, or engaged to marry.
We have been together for an year now yet he holds his junk off until marriage like a real virgin ( even thou he is not).
He is definitely not asexual as he is so easy to arouse, yet he avoids the act of sex until we tie the knot.
I could never understood that coming from a man.
I just checked his natal chart, and ta da - Artemis conjuncts his Sun and Valentine EXACT, 0 degree. GAH!

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posted August 08, 2015 12:39 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:

I'm what they call cupiosexual. I don't experience sexual attraction, but I have a psychological need for sexual relationship.

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Wow interesting, what in your chart you feel explains the lack of sexual attraction? So you never look at a guy and think "I want you now"? not that this happens frequently to me but it has happened.

What makes you feel like that? like "I want you now?" you don't have to answer that last one, I am just very curious.

posted August 08, 2015 01:44 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Wow interesting, what in your chart you feel explains the lack of sexual attraction? So you never look at a guy and think "I want you now"? not that this happens frequently to me but it has happened.

What makes you feel like that? like "I want you now?" you don't have to answer that last one, I am just very curious.

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I don't even know what that means. It took me a very, very long time to even REALISE that I was different, and not experiencing what most others were. What does 'I want you' mean? I want you how? In what way? To be around you? Oh, yes! To have wonderful, scintillating conversation and exchange ideas? Yes, please! To be able to reach out and grab you and feel your warmth and human presence? To know that I can hold onto you and it's all right? That I can be in your arms for several seconds -- even over a minute -- and you enjoy this, too? Yes, yes, yes.

It took me awhile to understand what my friends were experiencing when they saw an attractive man. I can be more than appreciative, and adore beholding beauty in its many forms. I can also find my mind wandering to thoughts of sex when I see a couple engaging in 'the erotic dance of courtship', if you will. It's a nice feeling, if I've had positive experiences in conjunction with sex. I can enjoy returning to those thoughts in brevity.

I like squeezing my husband's backside. It's hard and firm, and he feels loved. I do it because it's fun, and always gets an appreciative chuckle. 'You like that?' But I had no idea that women tend to do this as a signal for wanting sex -- or something similar. My husband has had to slowly inform me regarding how I'm perceived, and what the norm truly is. It was ... an education. My husband is gorgeous. He's like the poor man's David Duchovny -- just younger by a decade and some change. I love his air -- even if it's a bit cocksure. He's got a very developed sense of humour.

My boyfriend, however, is an ace like I am. We made a conscious decision to begin a sexual relationship. Largely because of how we love each other, and were told we were hopeless on the sexual front. We wanted to prove 'em wrong. And ... we sort of have. Sort of.

So we make a conscious decision to have intercourse. Nothing is ever spontaneous. We're usually in loving friendship or work mode, unless we've both decided to switch gears into sexual partners mode. Then we don't have any issues achieving arousal or enjoying intercourse together. Switching gears isn't the easiest, though. We're both still extremely compartmentalised. We don't kiss very often at all, either, and rarely during intercourse. But when he DOES kiss me, it's oddly in some other mode, and exceptionally meaningful, as he's been so driven in that moment to make a physical connexion with me -- and, thus, he'll kiss me.

I had a very interesting experience, if it's not too explicit, H.

We were engaged in intercourse, and I'd decided I was going to have an orgasm this time. I'd been holding off (and he was aware) due to the extreme vulnerability of the experience, and my not feeling ready yet again with him. He's so tightly controlled; I feel very safe with him, but I long to feel his losing control, too ... When I don't get that, (and I never do), it feels too much investment for me to experience orgasm.

This time, I did. Funny, I tried to focus merely upon the physical sensations, and it was effective but ... not effective enough. Then, in that moment, I took in everything happening. I just became one with the present moment. Totally there with him, and taking it all in. The realisation that it's him -- and it's me. And we're here, together, experiencing this depth of profound intimacy; that WE -- the last two people everyone around us imagined could together.

And that's when it happened. Multiply! I'd not been multiple with a sexual partner in intercourse before -- ever. Perhaps because I was 'doin' it wrong'. That's not what I found 'sexy', or arousing. For me, it was the relationship; surrendering myself in its entirety to the connexion, and its presence in my life. The sheer amazement of that -- THAT's what brought me out of the plateau. Remarkable!

posted August 08, 2015 02:10 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
I don't even know what that means. It took me a very, very long time to even REALISE that I was different, and not experiencing what most others were. What does 'I want you' mean? I want you how? In what way? To be around you? Oh, yes! To have wonderful, scintillating conversation and exchange ideas? Yes, please! To be able to reach out and grab you and feel your warmth and human presence? To know that I can hold onto you and it's all right? That I can be in your arms for several seconds -- even over a minute -- and you enjoy this, too? Yes, yes, yes.

It took me awhile to understand what my friends were experiencing when they saw an attractive man. I can be more than appreciative, and adore beholding beauty in its many forms. I can also find my mind wandering to thoughts of sex when I see a couple engaging in 'the erotic dance of courtship', if you will. It's a nice feeling, if I've had positive experiences in conjunction with sex. I can enjoy returning to those thoughts in brevity.

I like squeezing my husband's backside. It's hard and firm, and he feels loved. I do it because it's fun, and always gets an appreciative chuckle. 'You like that?' But I had no idea that women tend to do this as a signal for wanting sex -- or something similar. My husband has had to slowly inform me regarding how I'm perceived, and what the norm truly is. It was ... an education. My husband is gorgeous. He's like the poor man's David Duchovny -- just younger by a decade and some change. I love his air -- even if it's a bit cocksure. He's got a very developed sense of humour.

My boyfriend, however, is an ace like I am. We made a conscious decision to begin a sexual relationship. Largely because of how we love each other, and were told we were hopeless on the sexual front. We wanted to prove 'em wrong. And ... we sort of have. Sort of.

So we make a conscious decision to have intercourse. Nothing is ever spontaneous. We're usually in loving friendship or work mode, unless we've both decided to switch gears into sexual partners mode. Then we don't have any issues achieving arousal or enjoying intercourse together. Switching gears isn't the easiest, though. We're both still extremely compartmentalised. We don't kiss very often at all, either, and rarely during intercourse. But when he DOES kiss me, it's oddly in some other mode, and exceptionally meaningful, as he's been so driven in that moment to make a physical connexion with me -- and, thus, he'll kiss me.

I had a very interesting experience, if it's not too explicit, H.

We were engaged in intercourse, and I'd decided I was going to have an orgasm this time. I'd been holding off (and he was aware) due to the extreme vulnerability of the experience, and my not feeling ready yet again with him. He's so tightly controlled; I feel very safe with him, but I long to feel his losing control, too ... When I don't get that, (and I never do), it feels too much investment for me to experience orgasm.

This time, I did. Funny, I tried to focus merely upon the physical sensations, and it was effective but ... not effective enough. Then, in that moment, I took in everything happening. I just became one with the present moment. Totally there with him, and taking it all in. The realisation that it's him -- and it's me. And we're here, together, experiencing this depth of profound intimacy; that WE -- the last two people everyone around us imagined could together.

And that's when it happened. Multiply! I'd not been multiple with a sexual partner in intercourse before -- ever. Perhaps because I was 'doin' it wrong'. That's not what I found 'sexy', or arousing. For me, it was the relationship; surrendering myself in its entirety to the connexion, and its presence in my life. The sheer amazement of that -- THAT's what brought me out of the plateau. Remarkable!

Anyhow. Those are a few of my experiences in a nutshell.

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posted August 08, 2015 02:11 AM            

Sexual intercourse is such a powerful metaphoric experience of this sort of binding and bonding. It's never about pleasure or even physicality for me. I always find myself returning later to the moment I first feel him, and we relish in it together; he's hyper-aware of everything that I am, and I surrender myself to the profundity of the love we're creating as a result of this trust exercise and exchange of vulnerability for protection and vice versa.

Sex is psychological, in other words. The physical element is crucial, as it takes me out of being locked within my head. I'm no longer isolated. I'm literally 'invaded' by the presence of external stimuli -- reminding me that it's there, and I'm not alone. Then, in being so lovingly, carefully, and vigilantly possessed by it -- by him -- it's really then, and only then, I can free myself from my own stringent self-controls, which I also live by, on a daily basis.

So I do experience a sort of sexual attraction to him, but it's the desire to merge and be merged. To experience that oneness, where time literally slows and almost stops, and we are truly one and the same, together.