posted August 20, 2015 01:44 PM              

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Originally posted by Enneline:
Well, i agree that a venus/sun in composite can be extremely pleasing and i would label it a real love aspect as well but it's no rule according to my personal experience and my studies/observations.

I've had sun/venus in composite and did not feel love but tons of affection for example

My ex and my close friend could not stand each other and their synastry proved it but in their composite they shared a sun/venus conj....hahahhaha

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That's what I said, I can't stand that lady ... my Venus conj her Sun exact. I still think she is pleasing to the eye, although I don't like her taste in clothes etc. btw...but she has a pretty face. I think she is a nasty nasty character though, and when I knew her better, she simply is not the kind of person I would admire or like.

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posted August 20, 2015 01:53 PM              

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posted August 20, 2015 01:56 PM              

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Originally posted by Soltze:
Totally. I don't even care much about composites...it's a mathematical exercise. Sinastry is a safe way to see how people's placements interact.

For Leeloo: can you please indicate some love aspects?
Would you agree on Moon/Venus?~
Node contacts??
Venus/ASC?

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Love aspects (reposting from the other thread, mentioned on the other page)

My view on this:

Rule number 1 (for me): personal love planets (Sun, Moon, Venus, Mars) have to be aspected at some extent (although there are exceptions - synastries that defy this EDIT: but only to a certain extent - and go directly to rule number 2)

Rule number 2: everyone has their personalized love planets - LOVE RULERS (feeling planets and bunga bunga planets) and these MUST be aspected by general love planets and/or the other's personalized love planets.

General romantic aspects:

Sun/Moon - Yin/Yang archetype, all-inclusive

Venus/Mars - Yin/Yang archetype, romantic and bunga bunga

Sun/Venus - in practice, it is not a romantic aspect per se, it shows mutual appreciation/beauty/friendship/unconditional love, but it can be very romantic

Moon/Venus - very romantic

Moon/Mars - bunga bunga hot attraction lot of babies Yin/Yang can be romantic babymaking love quarrels ending in bed etc.

Moon/Pluto - deep compulsive love, an archetype, bunga bunga and romantic, can become deep hatred or unrequited

Venus/Pluto - similar with the above, but not quite: a love archetype, can be an unrequited aspect as well

Venus/Neptune - classic and very romantic aspect

Venus/Uranus - can be very romantic and bunga bunga, read the myth, also a possible unrequited/separative aspect

Mars/Pluto - very hot bunga bunga

Mars/Neptune - hot bunga bunga with lots of fantasies, can be romantic

Moon/Saturn - a marital archetype

All the other combinations between these planets can become romantic/bunga if they are personal love planets.

Any of the above aspects, in isolation, can be part of a good friendship.

Sun/Sun and Moon/Moon aspects are also very important for mutual attraction, no matter the aspect. Venus/Venus Mars/Mars etc. are a bonus in a good romantic synastry.

posted August 20, 2015 02:08 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Well, not in my experience with charts, babe.

Also, personally, I've had this with at least two people I remembered instantly, from the tip of my head, and I can check more for you: a woman a former friend; my Venus conj her Sun exact, when I first saw her I thought she was very attractive, I still think she looks good, and I was drawn to becoming friends with her and was very tolerant with her for a while, this aspect brings a very cooperative spirit. She proved to be a nasty character, very ugly inside, and I can assure you I dislike her profoundly now.

And my ex, Sun conj Venus in the composite 7th house Scorpio; while this was an aspect which helped a lot, because it brought sympathy and tolerance and the ability to forgive, I can assure you I don't adore him just liked him.

Also, I haven't seen this aspect too often in long-term romantic/marital relationships; I would love to see at least some of the many example you and the others have encountered I see it often in friendships and 7th house partnerships such as business or cooperation; it's a cooperative aspect.

But we can agree to disagree. Still, I would love to see some examples on how this aspect is so prominent in marital/romance.

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posted August 20, 2015 02:26 PM              

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Originally posted by Orange:

no, I mean - in synastry, not in the Composite. The Composite sun-venus doesn't mean much to me, it could be pure love if the composite aspect is based on a DW conjunction or opposition in the synastry, but if it is not based on a DW conj / opposition that reapeats in synastry - I don't flutter too much at that Composite aspect.
But the synastry....the synastrical Sun-Venus is very strong! Such strong attraction! I am talking about romantic synastry, not a Sun-Venus with your friend.
If I see a Sun-Venus conjunction or opposition (even square) in a romantic synastry, Venus loves the Sun and there is basically no exception to that.. well maybe rarely there will be exceptions but hardly ever so.

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I don't see this aspect as showing romantic love and I don't see this aspect often in long-term romantic relationships.

My parents have this; my dad's Venus conj my mom's Sun OOS, close orb though. He has always thought and said she is the most beautiful woman in the world. But I attribute their love to the presence of what I consider classic and strong romantic aspects such as a Sun/Moon DW, Venus/Mars conjunction DW, and pretty much everything romantic and everything marital connected to the other's chart. I don't think their true love is defined by this conjunction. Most famous and not so famous passionate stories of true love don't have Sun/Venus; most of them have Sun/Moon and Venus/Mars and the other aspects I am mentioning though.

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posted August 20, 2015 02:35 PM              

But that's just my opinion based on charts.

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posted August 20, 2015 02:40 PM            

My experiences are that when I have this aspect in composite, I'm never mean to the person. The relationship/friendship never gets nasty to the point of never going back. Not all of them are true love or friendship but I rather have it than not. With the people o have it, even when we are conflict bring, in each other's presence we would try to not go too far with our words or not getting down to a horrible path. So it's nice to have at least since I always attract plutonic relationships. Them scorps don't hold back on revenge

posted August 20, 2015 03:21 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
BTW, who is Jon Snow? I googled him and stumbled onto a hot guy. Lumbersexual

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It's one of the guys from the game of the thrones series/books.

On topic:

Cousin 1 - BF 11 years happily together: No Sun/Venus contact or aspect. There is a Sun/Moon though.

Cousin 2 - BF - have had an on/off relationship since high school, they have finally settled down for 5 years and moved int together recently. No sun/Venus contact either.

Grandmother - Grandad 45 years married happily, no Sun/Venus contact either.

Friend - Fiancee getting married in October - together for 2 years - Sun/Venus trine (although I am not 100% of their TOB)

Me and my ex - together 7 years not so happily - His Venus conjunct my Sun (orb 2)

posted August 20, 2015 03:54 PM              

Sorry, I haven't watched TV since the Olympics and who needs TV when one has Lindaland? hehehehehe just kidding!

I am curious if ex thought///expressed himself...or better say was aware of the fact that you are very beautiful with this aspect.

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posted August 20, 2015 04:13 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Sunnya!!!! I knew there was something familiar with the name Snow White guy! Pretty hot!

Sorry, I haven't watched TV since the Olympics and who needs TV when one has Lindaland? hehehehehe just kidding!

I am curious if ex thought///expressed himself...or better say was aware of the fact that you are very beautiful with this aspect.

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Bahaha yea!! I only saw season 1, I read the books and the series bored me.
I edited my previous post since you have read that other part already.

And yup, my ex used to say how beautiful I was even in pyjamas pants.
He was always nagging me for not seeing how beautiful I am...

posted August 20, 2015 05:20 PM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
My Mom and Dad share her Venus exact conjunct his Sun and they have been together for 37 years.

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posted August 20, 2015 05:59 PM              

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Originally posted by Orange:
My mom's Venus conjuncts dad's Sun.
She loved him and adored him for 40 years until her death.
Her Saturn also squared his Venus.
He was mildly attraced but loved her too

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It's interesting, Orange, I think we all favor the energy of certain aspects, if we knew it in our families, it makes perfect sense to be so and I often noticed that. We usually tend to replicate it in our own synastries.

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posted August 21, 2015 12:34 AM            

please refrain from any attacks on Leeloo.
She`s a very sound astrologer, but even if you donīt agree, disagree respectfully. [/QUOTE

Sorry, Ceri, but I wont do that. She called me crazy and with issues too many times. To me, thats a huge insult towards me. I will simply ignore her and if I am still allowed, to do my job here.

posted August 21, 2015 12:36 AM            

please refrain from any attacks on Leeloo.
She`s a very sound astrologer, but even if you donīt agree, disagree respectfully. [/QUOTE

Sorry, Ceri, but I wont do that. She called me crazy and with issues too many times. To me, thats a huge insult towards me. I will simply ignore her and if I am still allowed, to do my job here.

posted August 21, 2015 02:34 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I am speaking from my experience as an astrologer, while you are speaking from your experience with one relationship, the one with your ex. Generalization of isolated personal experiences into theories is super yuck.

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posted August 21, 2015 05:42 AM              

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ceridwen:
[b]Rosalind,

please refrain from any attacks on Leeloo.
She`s a very sound astrologer, but even if you donīt agree, disagree respectfully. [/QUOTE

Sorry, Ceri, but I wont do that. She called me crazy and with issues too many times. To me, thats a huge insult towards me. I will simply ignore her and if I am still allowed, to do my job here.

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We interacted 3 times on this forum since you came back app a week ago.

- 1st time was in PR where I spent half an hour interpreting your reading for you although no one else wanted to help you because you had already been incredibly rude to SereneDaze the moment you stepped back on this forum. Shame on you!

- 2nd time was when you wrote, out of the blue, this message to me here a few days ago

Sorry to tell you this but I have followed your posts and I got into the conclusion you aren't very good in this. You don't have the gift to be an astrologer. You weren't born for that. You just take everything is written on the internet as facts which aren't. Not all. To be an astrologer, a true one, you have to have a gift from God. Despite your outrageous violence and rudeness, after the incident, I offered a peace message to you which you ignored.

- 3rd time was yesterday when you wrote, out of the blue, this message about me to another user She doesnt know. You are wasting your breath.

You have been warned by one moderator for the first, and by Ceri for the second at my request. Don't put Ceri in an awkward position by telling her you want to ignore her warning! You can't ignore the warning of a moderator unless you want to get banned!

I don't know you and you don't know me. I have no idea who you are, you have no idea who I am. What you did, numbers 2 and 3, is called blatant PERSONAL ATTACK of a stranger. If you disagree with my astrological ideas, do it by presenting your own arguments without ad hominem.

I didn't call you crazy, I only recommended anger manager, for I see no reason for someone to lash on an unknown person like this unless there are some problems in this respect. It was a sarcastic way to defend myself, but also to express concern.

But I could have called you crazy if I wanted you. Because once you attack an unknown person out of the blue, here and in real life, you can expect anything happening to you. Everyone has the right to defend themselves the best they can. You just can't go on attacking people and expecting no reaction.

Please read the Rules and Regulations of this forum and find out personal attacks and ignoring 2 warnings about it is not allowed on LL.
I will personally notify Randall if you attack me again or I see you doing it to someone else. The moment you came here, you were rude to people. Show respect and let's get to discuss astrology, we are all here for that and we don't have to have identical ideas to cooperate, learn and have fun on LL.

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posted August 21, 2015 05:43 AM              

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Originally posted by stillatlarge:
Again?

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Again what? Express yourself, don't repress yourself.

Use little "puns" with your circle of friends.

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

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posted August 21, 2015 05:45 AM              

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posted August 21, 2015 07:02 AM            

They have moon square sun/mercury. Sun conjunct mercury. Venus conjunct mars.

7th house uranus oppose venus/mars.

There was quite a lot of ups and downs, mostly because of the unfortunate events they had to go through. The love was there. Lots of volatile emotional outbreaks, but heh they both were volatile to begin with

They were well matched in terms of personalities, life philosophies and life goals. Perfect duo. Together they formed an impenetrable wall. Mom is now "waiting to join him" - her words.