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angel4845
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posted August 19, 2015 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone?

I've noticed MOST relationships that are significant and come together have sun CONJUNCT venus in there composite.

Including both of my brothers with there wives and my parents married over 40 years have COMPOSITE SUN CONJUNCT VENUS.

But is there any succesful marriages without this aspect?

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posted August 19, 2015 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted August 19, 2015 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, a lot.

My grandparents (50+ years marriage), my parents (25 years), my sisters marriage (12 and counting), and sooo much more.

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posted August 19, 2015 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Selene:
Yes, a lot.

My grandparents (50+ years marriage), my parents (25 years), my sisters marriage (12 and counting), and sooo much more.


Wow is venus touching anything in there composites?

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posted August 19, 2015 04:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my parents (41 years) neither

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posted August 19, 2015 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaceyLeigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My parents (11+ years)

Sister and her ex-husband (20 years), although, they did have other Venus aspects, including Moon conjunct Venus.

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No, MOST (great) relationships don't have that just some of them.

I have numerous examples. Giving the example of my parents, almost 50y of happy marriage and intense love and this is their composite.

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posted August 19, 2015 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liliya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We are married for 1 year, and together for 4, so can't consider it a long-term, but I'll participate anyway.

We don't have Venus/Sun conjunction, but we have:

Sun/Moon EXACT conjunction (waaay more rare and epic to have in Composite haha), which is semi-sextile Venus (exact, as well).

Also, to compensate for a lack of said aspect, our Ruler of 5th (Neptune) is sextile Ruler of 7th (Venus) (again, exact).

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My granparents, together for almost 40 years until my grandad passed away. They don't have it either, but they have Sun/Moon

My mum and her husband, together for 16 years don't have it.

My in-laws, together for 37 years don't have it either.

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And there are more examples.

Chance to have this aspect is muuuch higher, than say Sun/Moon, because Venus never travels far from the Sun (the same as Mercury, which contributes to a so-called "love stellium"). I personally, don't think it's that much of a big deal, because it's very common, even though it's be lovely to have it

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posted August 19, 2015 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think Sun conjunct Venus or opposite Venus in a composite chart is very fortunate to have and means the two people truly and unconditionally love each other. I think it's a very high vibration type of love that is hard to find. Two people can marry without it but it doesn't mean it's the best love you can find.

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posted August 19, 2015 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My husband and I.

Our cSUN is 0º conjunct my twin's KARMA, interestingly enough, as we're all so interconnected.

But my husband and I have a stellium of VENUS-SATURN-SUN and PSYCHE in 12H. The stellium does consist of VENUS, SATURN, and the SUN, but the conjunction is VENUS and SATURN, though wide at 4º -- and extremely wide -- if we're counting SUN and SATURN (8º).

But VENUS is 12º from the SUN. I just don't count that.

Curiously, VENUS is conjunct the SUN (1º) in my composite with my twin, and even with my karmic soulmate -- 4º.

It's 9º conjunct in my parents' composite. Hm. Not sure I'm really 'counting' that one, either.

I'd say that it may be often seen in composites with great longevity and love, but a lot of it may be due to probability, with VENUS never travelling too far from the SUN in a natal. 60º +/- 5º at most, I believe.

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posted August 19, 2015 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If probability matters in synastry aspects then Venus opposition Sun must mean much more than the conjunction. That's the one I experienced but it was Sun in Libra and Venus in Aries.

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Originally posted by Liliya:
We are married for 1 year, and together for 4, so can't consider it a long-term, but I'll participate anyway.

We don't have Venus/Sun conjunction, but we have:

Sun/Moon EXACT conjunction (waaay more rare and epic to have in Composite haha), which is semi-sextile Venus (exact, as well).

Also, to compensate for a lack of said aspect, our Ruler of 5th (Neptune) is sextile Ruler of 7th (Venus) (again, exact).

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My granparents, together for almost 40 years until my grandad passed away. They don't have it either, but they have Sun/Moon

My mum and her husband, together for 16 years don't have it.

My in-laws, together for 37 years don't have it either.

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And there are more examples.

Chance to have this aspect is muuuch higher, than say Sun/Moon, because Venus never travels far from the Sun (the same as Mercury, which contributes to a so-called "love stellium"). I personally, don't think it's that much of a big deal, because it's very common, even though it's be lovely to have it



Indeed. Sun conj Mercury, Sun conj Venus or Venus conj Mercury ot the three of them together in the composite are not relevant aspects, because of them being common due to the distances between Sun and these closest planets to him. Of course, they will flavor the composite, but in my experience, they are not a marker for great love and/or marriage.

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posted August 19, 2015 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A composite chart is the energy of two different people. How can the probability of the distance from the Sun to Venus have any relevance for two people who may be born at completely different times?


I can see how the probability of one person having Sun conjunct Venus being not so rare. But actually it is rare having it under one orb.

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
A composite chart is the energy of two different people. How can the probability of the distance from the Sun to Venus have any relevance for two people who may be born at completely different times?


I can see how the probability of one person having Sun conjunct Venus being not so rare. But actually it is rare having it under one orb.


Because if you do the two midpoints of two astrobodies close to each other in the sky, you get them even closer. That's why you will notice many Sun/Mercury or Mercury/Venus or Sun/Venus conj in the composite, although the people don't have them in the natal.

That's why the "love stellium" has nothing to with love, but with basic astronomy.

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posted August 19, 2015 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Because if you do the two midpoints of two astrobodies close to each other in the sky, you get them even closer. That's why you will notice many Sun/Mercury or Mercury/Venus or Sun/Venus conj in the composite, although the people don't have them in the natal.

That's why the "love stellium" has nothing to with love, but with basic astronomy.



But what about two people who weren't born close to each other? How does that make any sense?

Someone born in January with Mercury in Capricorn and another born in August with Mercury in Leo. Most couples aren't born around the same time so this probability thing isn't relevant to composite charts unless the couple is born around the same time.

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:

But what about two people who weren't born close to each other? How does that make any sense?

Someone born in January with Mercury in Capricorn and another born in August with Mercury in Leo. Most couples aren't born around the same time so this probability thing isn't relevant to composite charts unless the couple is born around the same time.


Of course not, being born close to each has nothing to do with it. As I said, there is a max astronomical distance between Sun and Venus and combining the two mdps brings Sun and Venus closer in the comp, no matter when the people are born. Just take a look at the composites you have in your database. For example, Mercury is very close to the Sun in all charts, no matter when you are born; in the composite the distance will be even shorter, which gives an impressive number of Sun conj Mercury in the composite. It's simply irrevelant as marker for love, for mathematical reasons. If two people have Sun close to Venus in their own natal, they will automatically have a Sun/Venus conj in the composite, which of course, doesn't mean that they love each other (if it's just that).

Relevant aspects are the usual: Sun and Moon well aspected, planets to angles, aspects to nodes, Saturn, good aspected geometry, romantic/erotic aspects involving Venus Mars Jupiter etc. (talking about the composite here)

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posted August 19, 2015 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's Sun/Mercury not Sun/Venus.

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posted August 19, 2015 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:

But what about two people who weren't born close to each other? How does that make any sense?

Someone born in January with Mercury in Capricorn and another born in August with Mercury in Leo. Most couples aren't born around the same time so this probability thing isn't relevant to composite charts unless the couple is born around the same time.


It is basic astronomy.

Look at it like this:

Okay, we have a 1º SUN/VENUS in the composite.

He has SUN 44º (semisquare) VENUS.
I have SUN 41º (novile) VENUS.

Perhaps due to their being 3º apart in opposite phase, (Cancer to Leo; Libra to Virgo) that explains the -- oh! Sorry. It's 2º. It's 29º Leo to 1º Virgo -- that was my error. It's a 2º conjunction.

So then. Maybe the remaining degree is lost in the mathematics? Perhaps it's not a solid 3º difference?

Either way, I DO see the mathematical relationship, and have noticed how these often form conjunctions in composite.

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posted August 19, 2015 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That doesn't count for Venus opposite Sun in the composite chart.

I just think saying something doesn't matter as much as Venus conjunct Sun or Opposition Sun especially when Venus has her own reason for traveling around the zodiac in a certain length/time period is really not smart and everything in astrology matters.

Most people who have Venus conjunct Sun are extremely beautiful people.

Also I'm talking about exact aspects.

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
That's Sun/Mercury not Sun/Venus.

No sorry. When you do the Suns mdp, you "drag" the nearby planets around the composite Sun: and this means Mercury and Venus. Which makes Sun/Venus/Mercury in the composite, close or conj, a common situation. It doesn't happen in ALL cases of course, but it is too common to be a marker for what you describe. It will be felt, but it is not definitory. It mostly reflects the distance between Sun and Venus in the two natal charts, not the connection between the two people.

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posted August 19, 2015 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm talking about a one orb conjunction. 3 at the most.


And what about Venus opposite Sun? Are you saying that's irrelevant too? Because that doesn't apply to what you are saying.

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Sun opp Venus or Mercury in the comp probably means the two Suns are in opp in the synastry, that's where it comes from, because one of the Suns has to be on the other side, for this opp to occur. That is a great aspect, the synastric one, but it is not enough to describe love, and certainly Sun/Venus isn't either.

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posted August 19, 2015 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
That doesn't count for Venus opposite Sun in the composite chart.

It depends upon the natal distance between VENUS and SUN in each natal. And THEN how it 'translates' mathematically in the composite.

Whilst basic astronomy, we can't deny that there is a profundity to it, given the nature of the sharing aspects close to the same degree in distance, or near enough.

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posted August 19, 2015 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Sun opp Venus or Mercury in the comp probably means the two Suns are in opp in the synastry, that's where it comes from, because one of the Suns has to be on the other side, for this opp to occur. That is a great aspect, the synastric one, but it is not enough to describe love, and certainly Sun/Venus isn't either.


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posted August 19, 2015 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's not true at all.

Me and my ex bf share this and he is a Sagittarius25 sun and I am Cancer Sun at 8 Cancer and we share the Composite Sun opp Venus under 3 orb.


Have you ever experienced this Leeloo? If not then I wouldn't go so far as if knowing what you say is fact.


I know people with an exact Sun Venus conjunction and they are very good looking and it's because of this conjunction. But I guess you are saying it doesn't matter at all and their beauty is from something else.

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