posted August 20, 2015 10:10 AM              

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Your experience is yours LeeLoo.

Me and my ex shared the greatest sex ever and were truly and deeply in love. So there may have been other negative aspects in your composite chart to factor for that.

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I am speaking from my experience as an astrologer, while you are speaking from your experience with one relationship, the one with your ex. Generalization of isolated personal experiences into theories is super yuck.

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posted August 20, 2015 10:30 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Not really. It's more of a "casual" aspect. In some instances, it can even play as superficial liking, or liking the looks of the person (in synastry). It gives what Ceri says: sympathy, appreciation and admiration. Perhaps I used the "unconditional" term wrongly, what I mean is that is it not a sexualized, intense aspect; it has a platonic vibe. That's what I meant by unconditional, but I think I used it wrongly. It's not an "enduring love" aspect per se. I've experienced many times with friends and lovers: it can even make you like a person first or be liked due to the Venusian charm infused in this contact, liking their looks, but when knowing the person better, this aspect doesn't hold for itself. As I said, I had this composite conjunction in the 7th with my ex and this is how it played, and I have had it with numerous friends: there is pleasant and tolerant friendship and liking (that's what I mean by unconditional too) and a social liking of the person, their charisma, their looks, their beauty. But that's about it. It's not "true love/enduring love" aspect.
Also, anyone can check it is not a major marker in long-term love relationships. It can be there, but often it isn't. It is very common in long-term friendship and business partnerships though.

The keyword for Sun/Venus is LIKING, not loving.

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What aspects would you say that two people LOVE each other completely in a composite? I know this is so general to ask but just curious if you don't have the time LeeLoo to explain its okay I'll be looking at the LL library. I do agree with with what your saying in the above since you've dozens of charts maybe even hundreds of charts since your an experienced astrologer.

AND how did moom square Mars square saturn in your parents composite GO for them? WOULD LOOOOOOVE to know since Im experiencing this currently on my composite.

posted August 20, 2015 10:30 AM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Your experience is yours LeeLoo.

Me and my ex shared the greatest sex ever and were truly and deeply in love. So there may have been other negative aspects in your composite chart to factor for that.

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posted August 20, 2015 10:33 AM            

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Originally posted by angel4845:
What aspects would you say that two people LOVE each other completely in a composite? I know this is so general to ask but just curious if you don't have the time LeeLoo to explain its okay I'll be looking at the LL library.

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posted August 20, 2015 10:42 AM              

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
She doesnt know. You are wasting your breath. Sun/Venus is the LOVE aspect in composite.
If you really want to learn astrology, check other astrologers like RUN AROUND SCREAMING. She is amazing and very gifted. Orange, Faith, Ceridwen and so on.

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Rosalind, next time you will launch a personal attack on me on this forum, I will ask a moderator to intervene. Gratuitous personal attacks and stalking are not allowed on this forum.

It looks very weird since you came here only a few days ago, after some time, and you don't even know me. So direct your aggressiveness some place else, preferably psychotherapy; you seem to need it, if you can lash on a total stranger like this.

Best wishes to you! I hope you solve your issues as soon as possible!

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posted August 20, 2015 10:48 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Rosalind, next time you will launch a personal attack on me on this forum, I will ask a moderator to intervene. Gratuitous personal attacks and stalking are not allowed on this forum.

It looks very weird since you have come here only a few days ago, after some time, and you don't even know me. So direct your aggressiveness some place else, preferably psychotherapy; you seem to need it, if you can lash on a total stranger like this.

Best wishes to you! I hope you solve your issues as soon as possible!

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Truth hurts. I know. Dont worry. You are not the only one. Jon Snow knows nothing too.

If you think that was a personal attack, then you are giving me the right. Prove that Im NOT right by providing ANSWERS to the questions people are keeping asking you. Can you do that? Come on, I dare you.

posted August 20, 2015 10:51 AM              

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Originally posted by angel4845:
What aspects would you say that two people LOVE each other completely in a composite? I know this is so general to ask but just curious if you don't have the time LeeLoo to explain its okay I'll be looking at the LL library. I do agree with with what your saying in the above since you've dozens of charts maybe even hundreds of charts since your an experienced astrologer.

AND how did moom square Mars square saturn in your parents composite GO for them? WOULD LOOOOOOVE to know since Im experiencing this currently on my composite.

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the way I see it, the most important part about the composite is that it is a result of:

- specific natal charts
- synastry

Take a look here:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/001072.html

Therefore, what really matters is a composite reflecting the needs in the natals. The composite usually reflects the synastry; it is not to be analyzed by itself, if we are to do a good job.

BUT we do want to see the following in the composite:

- planets connected to each other, no blank spots (such as unaspected planets, especially personal planets)
- yin/yang romance and marital aspects

take a look here for what shows love in astrology scroll down for my post:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/000398-2.html

- love and marital ruler activity in the composite

- connections to angles and nodes
- harmonious geometry ( all around, also a combination of soft and hard)

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posted August 20, 2015 10:52 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I am speaking from my experience as an astrologer, while you are speaking from your experience with one relationship, the one with your ex. Generalization of isolated personal experiences into theories is super yuck.

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My experience and I have also seen many true love relationships with this aspect as well.

posted August 20, 2015 10:52 AM              

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Truth hurts. I know. Dont worry. You are not the only one. Jon Snow knows nothing too.

If you think that was a personal attack, then you are giving me the right. Prove that Im NOT right by providing ANSWERS to the questions people are keeping asking you. Can you do that? Come on, I dare you.

Its the third time you are call me crazy and with issues. THIS is an insult. Next time, check better your words.

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I request a moderator to comment on this gratuitous and aggressive personal attack. Thank you.

I won't be stalked by this person, especially since I have already launched two peace and respect offers to Rosalind.

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posted August 20, 2015 10:58 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
It's actually pretty common to have sun-Venus in composite, and it doesn't always mean love, or last.

ETA:

Oops I should have read the thread before replying. I agree with what the others said.

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If that's true how come practically every composite I see posted on this forum doesn't have the aspect? I rarely ever see any composite with that aspect on here.

So you have the aspect in your composite yet you are disagreeing that it matters? That's funny.

LeeLoo, I appreciate your views anyway.

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posted August 20, 2015 11:23 AM              

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Originally posted by angel4845:

AND how did moom square Mars square saturn in your parents composite GO for them? WOULD LOOOOOOVE to know since Im experiencing this currently on my composite.

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Sorry, I missed this part

As you can see, it is not just a Moon sq Mars, but a tight T/square sitting on the "marriage angles" so to speak, making for a Cross; a very stable structure. But if I am to look at the Moon Mars itself, in combination with Saturn, it gave for many children including one in later years, and intense and enduring sexual interest in each other. Also, I think Mars in combination with the archetype Moon/Saturn gave for sexual faithfulness and stability in this respect.

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posted August 20, 2015 11:49 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Sorry, I missed this part

As you can see, it is not just a Moon sq Mars, but a tight T/square sitting on the "marriage angles" so to speak, making for a Cross; a very stable structure. But if I am to look at the Moon Mars itself, in combination with Saturn, it gave for many children including one in later years, and intense and enduring sexual interest in each other. Also, I think Mars in combination with the archetype Moon/Saturn gave for sexual faithfulness and stability in this respect.

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nice! sounds great! just saw the T cross you had mentioned and will be checking the links you provided for me

posted August 20, 2015 12:01 PM            

Sun. 19 Aqu
Moon.22 cancer
Venus pisces

posted August 20, 2015 12:09 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Athene, Sun/Venus is a lovely aspect, both in synastry and composite. It is not on my list of important markers though, because it is not exactly a romantic aspect, IME, mostly platonic, showing liking each other. It is very common in friendships for instance

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OMG, LeeLo

posted August 20, 2015 12:23 PM              

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Originally posted by Orange:
OMG, LeeLo

Sun-Venus is pure love. Pure! It's just inevitable that the Venus loves the Sun. Adores them, in fact!
Conjunct and opposition is the strongest felt.
If I see a romantic/love synastry with Venus on the Sun, I already know who loves whom. It's that strong! There is basically no exception to that.

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Well, not in my experience with charts, babe.

Also, personally, I've had this with at least two people I remembered instantly, from the tip of my head, and I can check more for you: a woman a former friend; my Venus conj her Sun exact, when I first saw her I thought she was very attractive, I still think she looks good, and I was drawn to becoming friends with her and was very tolerant with her for a while, this aspect brings a very cooperative spirit. She proved to be a nasty character, very ugly inside, and I can assure you I dislike her profoundly now.

And my ex, Sun conj Venus in the composite 7th house Scorpio; while this was an aspect which helped a lot, because it brought sympathy and tolerance and the ability to forgive, I can assure you I don't adore him just liked him.

Also, I haven't seen this aspect too often in long-term romantic/marital relationships; I would love to see at least some of the many example you and the others have encountered I see it often in friendships and 7th house partnerships such as business or cooperation; it's a cooperative aspect.

But we can agree to disagree. Still, I would love to see some examples on how this aspect is so prominent in marital/romance.

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

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posted August 20, 2015 12:35 PM              

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posted August 20, 2015 01:16 PM              

LeeLoo didn't do anything to you and you are constantly attacking and insulting her. That is bullying.

She doesn't agree with you...so what? Calling her a 2nd Jon Snow and so called astrologer is just unacceptable and inappropriate.

posted August 20, 2015 01:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
Back to topic:
We agree that a good composite is valid only if a good synastry is there as well?

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Totally. I don't even care much about composites...it's a mathematical exercise. Sinastry is a safe way to see how people's placements interact.

For Leeloo: can you please indicate some love aspects?
Would you agree on Moon/Venus?~
Node contacts??
Venus/ASC?

posted August 20, 2015 01:24 PM              

I've had sun/venus in composite and did not feel love but tons of affection for example

posted August 20, 2015 01:35 PM              

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Originally posted by Enneline:
Back to topic:
We agree that a good composite is valid only if a good synastry is there as well?

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Thank you, sweetie

As far as I'm concerned, looking at a composite without the synastry can be very misleading. A good composite usually accompanies a good synastry, IF the two people are meant to have a relationship for real. Which means they should have already met each other and had the chance/proper conditions and desire on both sides to have one.

if we are looking at the composite with my ex (which has a good synastry in the background) most people, me included at first glance would say: what a damn good composite! So what happened here? If you ask me, it is too easy; easy come, easy go, and Uranus unaspected helping with breaking the too easy boring grand trine.

It still was a very meaningful love relationship, we lived together from the beginning till the end, but not a long-lasting one: life span max 5 years (if I put them together; with the best part/harmony for 2 years).

BTW, composite to our natals

my MC 16.44 Scorpio
Jupiter on my Juno
Saturn on my DSC (as I have in the natal)
IC conj my Moon exact

IC conj his ASC wider
Saturn on his Avx
his Moon/Mercury/Venus/Pallas/DSC conj MC
his IC 12 Scorpio

but I think the main reason (and not wanting to blame this on him, still I think it counts): he has Sun in Cap and Sag Mars both in the 5th peregrine in his natal, only a wide 8 deg opp to his Sun from Saturn, and a not so great one, coming from Saturn in the 11th, sq Pluto; no major aspects to Mars.

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posted August 20, 2015 01:44 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Well, not in my experience with charts, babe.

Also, personally, I've had this with at least two people I remembered instantly, from the tip of my head, and I can check more for you: a woman a former friend; my Venus conj her Sun exact, when I first saw her I thought she was very attractive, I still think she looks good, and I was drawn to becoming friends with her and was very tolerant with her for a while, this aspect brings a very cooperative spirit. She proved to be a nasty character, very ugly inside, and I can assure you I dislike her profoundly now.

And my ex, Sun conj Venus in the composite 7th house Scorpio; while this was an aspect which helped a lot, because it brought sympathy and tolerance and the ability to forgive, I can assure you I don't adore him just liked him.

Also, I haven't seen this aspect too often in long-term romantic/marital relationships; I would love to see at least some of the many example you and the others have encountered I see it often in friendships and 7th house partnerships such as business or cooperation; it's a cooperative aspect.

But we can agree to disagree. Still, I would love to see some examples on how this aspect is so prominent in marital/romance.

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