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Orange
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posted August 22, 2015 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
I'm not joking Orange. I've known this fact ( that I will die at that age) since I was 19. I am serious. The transits don't lie. T Uranus will be at 29 degrees in Gemini in my 8th house making an square with my Natal Saturn.

Doesn't matter if the love comes in 10-12 years. I won't have children at that late age. I rather have them at all.


my guy just went thru a double transit of TR Uranus squaring his Saturn and TR Saturn on his Uranus. Double! Nothing extraordinary happened in his life, other than he met me!

well, you might marry and have children earlier under different progressions and transits. It just shows a time of heightened love ( in 10 years), especially as LeeLoo pointed out that Venus rules your 7th house of partnership. It doesnt mean that you wont marry until then

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posted August 22, 2015 09:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
I'm not joking Orange. I've known this fact ( that I will die at that age) since I was 19. I am serious. The transits don't lie. T Uranus will be at 29 degrees in Gemini in my 8th house making an square with my Natal Saturn.

I think this is very simplistic, think of all the people who are still alive with 8H Uranus, square Saturn, natally.

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posted August 22, 2015 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peluches     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
Hi people

Rosalind I hope you do not get married, have children, and die. Please don't. I know you have some psychic abilities and you are good with astrology but it's very hard if not impossible to do astrology well enough to ascertain one's time of death.

While I agree that the sun-Venus conjunctions between one's natal and progressed charts has some power, it is by no means the only opportunity one has to find their true love.

Many people have this conjunction while they are still children; others pass through it without meeting anyone. My husband's pr sun was 10 degrees past his natal Venus when we met; my pr Venus was 11 degrees away from my natal sun, applying to a conjunction.

I think the only special thing that happened when I had pr Venus on my natal sun exact is, I became an Elvis fan.

More to say in a bit, I need to study the charts.


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posted August 22, 2015 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
I think this is very simplistic, think of all the people who are still alive with 8H Uranus, square Saturn, natally.


Remember when I predicted Whitney Houston's death? What that simplistic?

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posted August 22, 2015 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
Hi people

My husband's pr sun was 10 degrees past his natal Venus when we met; my pr Venus was 11 degrees away from my natal sun, applying to a conjunction.
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That means you had a progressed Sun-Venus conjunction in your Composite chart when you met.
10 degrees waxing and waning

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posted August 22, 2015 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Remember when I predicted Whitney Houston's death? What that simplistic?

Well I've always thought you were just plain psychic about that, too, so it was a mix of simple astrology and psychic reading. Simple astrology alone would not have done it.

And if your psychic ability works like mine and others', it's only reliable sometimes, not always always.

I'm not saying you are wrong, and I don't want to get into an argument, just be very mindful with the ideas you become convinced of, as they do have a kind of self-fulfilling power.

quote:
Originally posted by Rosalind:
His Progressed Moon is tightly conjunct to my natal IC - no wonder why I want to have a family with him and I love his daughter to pieces.

Do you have his birth time, then?

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posted August 22, 2015 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
That means you had a progressed Sun-Venus conjunction in your Composite chart when you met.
10 degrees waxing and waning

Indeed

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posted August 22, 2015 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
Do you have his birth time, then?

No, I don't.

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posted August 22, 2015 09:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Peluches:
While I'm sure it's a pretty good technique, I don't think the pVENUS to the nSUN (or vice versa) is the only indicator for this. I personally think the asteroid VALENTINE (447) has as much influence as VENUS. If it's any help, the most significant encounter of mine, the one and only that's left me completely captivated since, occured when my progressed angles were just about to enter the Cardinal signs : my pASC at 28° VIR, in an exact applying conjunction to the pVALENTINE at 29° VIR (0°59 orb, so it'd just started), and opposing the pVERTEX at 25° Pisces (applying, too).

My pVENUS has only just finished hovering over my nASC, at a 2°03 orb, and separating. My progressed luminaries had both finished the same thing with his natal ones -- my pMOON 1°14 conjunct his nMOON, and my pSUN only 1°44 from his nSUN (both conjunctions separating).

So, I'd suggest checking for contacts between the natal and progressed SUN, MOON, ASC, VX, VENUS and VALENTINE for greater results. If you already have a few people in mind, I'd also check your natal cVERTEX for any connections to either of the separate progressed charts.

All the best.


So wise beyond your years.

Rosalind, you might want to check these points Peluches mentioned.

I've actually never paid much attention to Valentine, myself. Maybe because natally I have it in Capricorn. Not romantic enough.

I've been wondering what this  symbol is?

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posted August 22, 2015 10:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is also an earlier window when pMoon is First Quarter (next Moon sq Sun in your progressed chart) in your progressed chart, that would be in app 4 years, if I am not mistaken, you need to check that out. It could have a particular importance for you, as Sun dispositor and Sun MC ruler; and before reaching position, pMoon would transit your ASC and arrive in sq to your MC/IC. That would be an important moment in your life as well for starting a family.

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posted August 22, 2015 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The progressed composite has 16 Libra Saturn squaring the 16 Cancer NN which may delay progress together or make the relationship feel difficult.

I'm not a professional and this is an amateur opinion. But it's something that I believe needs to be reckoned with.

ETA: His pr Pluto 16 Libra, his pr Venus 17 Capricorn on the composite SN.

I believe he feels hooked into this relationship dynamic, because it aligns with his current pr Venus-Pluto square.

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posted August 22, 2015 10:07 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She has Moon/Venus sq Saturn though, with Venus DSC ruler, the sq is right on mdp. I am not sure Saturn sq are impending for her, more like triggers. A replica of the natal aspect or natal energy in one form or another is the trigger, IME.

EDIT: ahhh, sorry, Faith, you meant the progressed composite, apologize.

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posted August 22, 2015 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just don't like composite Saturn tightly aspecting the composite nodes in any composite chart.

To me it signals problems evolving the relationship.

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posted August 22, 2015 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
The progressed composite has 16 Libra Saturn squaring the 16 Cancer NN which may delay progress together or make the relationship feel difficult.

I'm not a professional and this is an amateur opinion. But it's something that I believe needs to be reckoned with.

ETA: His pr Pluto 16 Libra, his pr Venus 17 Capricorn on the composite SN.

I believe he feels hooked into this relationship dynamic, because it aligns with his current pr Venus-Pluto square.


Just tell me it's impossible and lets be done with it.

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posted August 22, 2015 10:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
I just don't like composite Saturn tightly aspecting the composite nodes in any composite chart.

To me it signals problems evolving the relationship.


Really? It's one of the common markers I found in marriages. Saturn sq nodal axis in composite and synastry. I mean it, it's in my Compilation list It's very common...well, Saturn hard aspect to nodal axis, but particularly the sq.
At least these are my findings.
In the progressed composite however, if the two people are not Saturnian, it could be a block, I suppose.

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posted August 22, 2015 10:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not impossible at all.

Just challenges

For example my dear friend has an exact Saturn-NN conjunction in composite with her man. What should be simple-- that they love each other and want to be together-- is not. His family objects, he wants to hold off, she's wondering if she should move on because she's getting older...a lot of SATURN issues, actually.

But still, they are so in love, and have their moments.

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posted August 22, 2015 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
Not impossible at all.

Just challenges

For example my dear friend has an exact Saturn-NN conjunction in composite with her man. What should be simple-- that they love each other and want to be together-- is not. His family objects, he wants to hold off, she's wondering if she should move on because she's getting older...a lot of SATURN issues, actually.

But still, they are so in love, and have their moments.


Faith, I've been single for my whole life. I am getting tired of disappointments. I think I asked too much. Having a family of my own. Having love and happiness. Yes, I asked too much. I thought with this man would be different. But apparently its as impossible as it was with the other guy. And the guys before.

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posted August 22, 2015 10:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Really? It's one of the common markers I found in marriages. Saturn sq nodal axis in composite and synastry. I mean it, it's in my Compilation list It's very common...well, Saturn hard aspect to nodal axis, but particularly the sq.
At least these are my findings.
In the progressed composite however, if the two people are not Saturnian, it could be a block, I suppose.


I defer to your expertise, but when I researched this before, I found at least one article that took a foreboding view of it. I'm looking for that article now.

And I have seen a few other examples of Saturn seeming to jam up the works.

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Originally posted by Faith:
I defer to your expertise, but when I researched this before, I found at least one article that took a foreboding view of it. I'm looking for that article now.

And I have seen a few other examples of Saturn seeming to jam up the works.


I'll try to make a special thread about it, there were several questions about this lately and we can discuss

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posted August 22, 2015 10:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Faith, I've been single for my whole life. I am getting tired of disappointments. I think I asked too much. Having a family of my own. Having love and happiness. Yes, I asked too much. I thought with this man would be different. But apparently its as impossible as it was with the other guy. And the guys before.

No, you asked for exactly the right thing. Everyone should ask for that and hold off, remain single, until they get it! No sense selling ourselves short.

Lee says your Saturn square nodes is binding and good.

Listen to her, not me.

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posted August 22, 2015 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
No, you asked for exactly the right thing. Everyone should ask for that and hold off, remain single, until they get it! No sense selling ourselves short.

Lee says your Saturn square nodes is binding and good.

Listen to her, not me.



Saturn squares nodes? Which ones? Where?

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Thank you, Faith but I do have to say it has to be a relationship first to even discuss the composite, IMO.

There is no doom and gloom in your personal charts, Rosalind. Orange saw a window, and I think another one is possible even earlier, 4 years from now. Besides, personalized progressions are more important than the general ones identified by very few astrologers, such as Westran. It's still uncharted territory.

Also, you can practically meet someone any time, but get married after a long engagement, so to speak. My parents got married after 6 years, and it was in the 70s. My friends got married and had kids after 10 years together too.

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posted August 22, 2015 10:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peluches     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rosa,

Perhaps we should look out for progressions or transits to 4°-8° Scorpio, as anything there would hit your PLUTO-ASC, as well as your VE/MA midpoint. Something else I found interesting is that your pSUN/MOON is currently on your nMOON, about 1°00 separating. (Seeing how many 2°00 separating conjunctions I and others I know have experienced, I'd say that it probably isn't too late now to expect something.)

I wonder what happened, though, when your pSUN/MOON went over your nVENUS (On REGULUS, too. That must have been about one year ago.) Analysing its previous effects on you might help you understand how the progressed SUN/MOON midpoint plays out in your chart specifically.


Faith, .

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posted August 22, 2015 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Thank you, Faith but I do have to say it has to be a relationship first to even discuss the composite, IMO.

There is no doom and gloom in your personal charts, Rosalind. Orange saw a window, and I think another one is possible even earlier, 4 years from now. Besides, personalized progressions are more important than the general ones identified by very few astrologers, such as Westran.

Also, you can practically meet someone any time, but get married after a long engagement, so to speak. My parents got married after 6 years, and it was in the 70s. My friends got married and had kids after 10 years together too.


Thank you, Lee. I really appreciate your insight BUT I am already too old. I cannot wait 4 more years. I simply cannot wait for something that it might never come. I'm am simply tired of waiting. to be always rejected, always unloved. Always being another person better and better than me.

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posted August 22, 2015 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
While looking for the article about Saturn/nodes I found this one that I like. http://happinessseries.com/05/2013/astrological-relationship-compatibility/

Excerpt:

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Opportune times for love (some examples):

*Transiting Jupiter through the 5th house (romance), 7th house (partnership), and 8th house (emotional and physical intimacy/bonding) — correlates with opportunity and abundance in these areas.

*Transiting Jupiter conjunct Venus — correlates with an opportunity for love

*Progressed Venus trine progressed Jupiter — same as above.

*Progressed Moon conjunct natal Venus — the heart is ready.

*Synastric timing: for example, progressed Sun of one conjunct natal Venus or natal Moon of the other or progressed Ascendant conjunct natal Ascendant of the other — shows a synchronization between the two, and often reveals the time of meeting.


That reminds me, Rosalind:

Isn't transiting Jupiter on one of your Venus-Saturn conjunctions with him, right now?

While transiting Saturn is on the other one?

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