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LeeLoo2014
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posted August 22, 2015 01:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Peluches:
No, Rosa, you don't know what can happen. Every single person on Earth deserves happiness, and, trust me, you are without doubt on that list.

Here's a little experiment. Take a look around you -- lots of colours, perhaps, right ? Now, choose an area of focus, as well as two equally spread out colours in that area, red and blue for instance. Don't move from it. Now, pick one of the colours, say, red, and remember only the RED stuff. See which things have that colour, how they are placed, and remember each of them in your mind. When you feel ready, close your eyes. Then try to recall all the red stuff you've saved in your head. How many do you count ? A lot, perhaps.

Now, without looking back at the area of focus, try and recall all the BLUE things. How many can you remember ? Most people will only count a few.

The point I'm trying to make here, is that if you choose to see the bad side of life, that's just what it will reflect back to you. I know it can be hard, but when you have a little time, tomorrow perhaps, when you wake up, start your day with a little touch of happiness. Notice all the pleasant things that are happening to you. Notice how a friend of yours wishes you with a smile ; notice all these little things that make you happy and focus on them.

It'll get better.


Thank you for this post, dear Peluches It is very inspiring to me.

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posted August 22, 2015 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
It gets better ONLY when you change inside. And it will NOT change for the better before this. This is the mythical challenge of Pluto conj ASC.

No way around it. But when and if you do it, you have the chance to experience genuine personal empowerment in the service of those around you, if you choose the path of light for this Pluto.


I got tired.

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posted August 22, 2015 01:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's probably just a moment now, Rosalind, we all have those. But don't give up, it is there on ASC for a reason.

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posted August 22, 2015 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
It's probably just a moment now, Rosalind, we all have those. But don't give up, it is there on ASC for a reason.


I think my English is not understood. I apologize for that. It's been like this for a LIFETIME. Its not a moment now.

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I think I know what you mean. You see your life as having been difficult until now and I am sorry for this. What I am trying to say with this powerful aspect is that the person cannot experience personal power and fulfillment unless they completely transform themselves: their thought patterns, their behavior, how they approach people, their appearance and even their personality, how they express it. The difficulty with this aspect is that the person can be very stubborn or resistant to personal change at first. So everyone is taking their time until they trigger this personal transformation. But the universe will do everything in its power to hold you from having any fulfillment until this change occurs; it's the way the universe works to help us do our task.

You can use this aspect to transform into a powerful "demon" or a powerful enlightened leader, at least of your own life. You have immense power of transformation on your ASC, unlike other people, starting with everything pertaining to the 1st house and irradiating towards everything in your life.

The final transformation with this aspect usually starts or coincides with facing your own Shadow, your dark side. And everyone around you, the universe, life events usually help with this: after you face it, you can integrate it and make it part of your power, as an instrument of light. For example, what do you choose in a certain situation? to see the half empty? (shadow) or half full (light)? revenge, hate (shadow) or love, compassion (light)? non-action and depression (shadow) or positive action (light)? personal stagnation (shadow) or daily changes about yourself (light)? etc etc it differs for each person, we all have our own Shadow. For you, it is the myth of your life, the integration of your Shadow.

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posted August 22, 2015 01:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto is a ruthless planet. You either learn its lesson, or fade away.

In other words, it says: change or die, something like that.

We all have it someplace, but for you, it is the guiding star, so to speak. It will not cut you any slack.

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posted August 22, 2015 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have no idea what to say, this conversation has gone above and beyond me....

Rosalind I don't know anything about your life but I am so sorry it's been hard.

I do think that any astrologer who predicts death for his or her client is an outright fraud.

Getting back on track, your progressed sun trine his natal sun, still within hugging distance of his natal Mars, is a good sign.

Let us know when and how he flirts

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posted August 22, 2015 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
I have no idea what to say, this conversation has gone above and beyond me....

Rosalind I don't know anything about your life but I am so sorry it's been hard.

I do think that any astrologer who predicts death for his or her client is an outright fraud.

Getting back on track, your progressed sun trine his natal sun, still within hugging distance of his natal Mars, is a good sign.

Let us know when and how he flirts


He will not. I closed the chapter with him. I am tired. I don't care about what he wants anymore. He definitely doesn't want me anymore. His silence has showed me that everything was a game for him. I am done. With love and everything. I will definitely not wait another 4 or 10 years to have a love relationship. It would be pretty pathetic.

Thank you for everything.

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posted August 22, 2015 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you are done being interested, I do understand.

I just hope joy finds you or you find joy...

One way or the other.


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posted August 22, 2015 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peluches     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LeeLoo

Thank you Yours are always inspiring, to everyone.


Rosa, I do hope you're happy one day. Sending lots of love.

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posted August 22, 2015 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LeeLo is a cupcake with a heart :-)

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posted August 22, 2015 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Her Sun - 18'54 Cancer
Her Mars - 17'18 Cap

His progressed Venus - 17'47 Cap

Verrry strong ^ and a clear marker for a start.


We would assume HEES completely into her being Venus.

Point is, I don't see any progressed Sun/Moon markers. Not personally regarding any 4th harmonic but also not a strong positive (conjunction/trine) in their progressed Sun/Moon synastry (the latter is a recent new focus of mine which I have to explore more). Probably a pSun/pMoon (his pMoon to her pSun) opposition but I get more and more the idea that a hard (square/opp) aspect (progressed synastry wise) between the Sun and Moon is what's keeping people (temporary) apart rather than melting together.

Taken with that, WHEN such an aspect or one of the above chimes in his pVenus is already leaving her nSun from an opposition (THE start marker). And after that I see no other progressed biggies arise.

A premature end of the relationship might already be felt by one or both. And the more when you already went through a lot in your life. That's when you become more sensitive / instinctively aware / or "psychic" how some may call it.

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posted August 22, 2015 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mir,
regarding the Sun-Moon aspect in the progressions - we did start it when the aspect was a square - his Moon was at 1' Saggy at that time. My Sun is 1' Virgo, his Venus is 1' Pisces. Our ASC/DSC are reversed and conjunct and are at 2' Pisces-Virgo. So his progressed Moon squared ALL that at the onset ( includes the Sun-Moon square). Nothing had happened between us before that, it was right then.

My progressed Moon was at 7' Cappy and was exactly squaring his natal Mars ( Mars rules Aries) - the planet of actions.

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posted August 22, 2015 11:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Ok, so no pSun/Moon trine/conj at the same time. Only that verrry significant square from his pMoon. Ok, interesting. BUT.. also NO personal progressed 4th harmonic Sun/Moon aspect with one of you (globally)? (I always look at pMoon to pSun AND pMoon to nSun).

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posted August 22, 2015 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank yo mir. So there will Not be a relationship between me and him.
Got it. Thanks a lot for your insight.

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posted August 23, 2015 01:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gals, thank you very much for your helpful insight. This thread can be closed now.

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posted August 23, 2015 03:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Peluches and Orange

Rosa, I wish the best to you, positive thinking attracts positive happenings, I tested it myself, it is worth a try. I know how it's like to be depressed, but there's a switch we can use, with our mind. Life is a journey, and you never know what is ahead of you, no matter how it has been so far, you can be surprised.

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posted August 23, 2015 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mir:
^ Ok, so no pSun/Moon trine/conj at the same time. Only that verrry significant square from his pMoon. Ok, interesting. BUT.. also NO [b]personal progressed 4th harmonic Sun/Moon aspect with one of you (globally)? (I always look at pMoon to pSun AND pMoon to nSun).[/B]

no, no personal sun/moon aspect in the progressions for both of us
BUT
our personal progressed Sun/Moon midpoints for both of us were conjunct, we both had it at the time ( and still do, since the move with a similar speed) at 23' Scorpio/Aqua

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My husband's pr sun was 10 degrees past his natal Venus when we met; my pr Venus was 11 degrees away from my natal sun, applying to a conjunction.


I wonder how that translated into the progressed-natal composite at that time.

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Originally posted by Peluches:
the natal and progressed SUN, MOON, ASC, VX, VENUS and VALENTINE for greater results. If you already have a few people in mind, I'd also check your natal cVERTEX for any connections to either of the separate progressed charts.

All the best.


When I first met Mr Sag (and he certainly has affected my life in a big way) I was having pVenus conjunct pMercury conjunct nMoon conjunct pAntivertex
(Venus rules 5th, Mercury, 7th and Moon 8th house natally).

he was having pPluto conjunct pVertex (Pluto ruling his 8th house, taking place in 7th house) plus pSun PRECISELY conjunct n Venus (0°00 orb).


pr composite Venus was conjunct composite Antivertex exact

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Originally posted by Orange:
my guy just went thru a double transit of TR Uranus squaring his Saturn and TR Saturn on his Uranus. Double! Nothing extraordinary happened in his life, other than he met me!



Yes, I have experienced it too.
Tr Uranus square my n Saturn, with Uranus being in my 4th house and Saturn in my 8th house.

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I think this is very simplistic, think of all the people who are still alive with 8H Uranus, square Saturn, natally.


Mr Sag has Uranus in 8th house and Tr Saturn had been conjunct it, wait, let`s see on 27th october 2014.
Oh really?

Of course this was a conjunction for him, not a square.

Interesting that we both were going through a SAturn-Uranus-thing involving our 8th house planet, mmmh.

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Rosalind,

I wished I could wave a magic wand and make you see the beauty in life.
But the thing is we all have our lenses through which we perceive life. And if you perceive your life as difficult, then that`s just what it is.

Our perspectives determine our experiences a lot more than most of the so-called "facts of life", though I admit, that some people seem to have to shoulder more difficult or challenging life-experiences than others.

However your perspective is your own, and at the moment you`re quite attached to it, so it really doesn`t matter what anyone else sais. If it does not fit your beliefs, you will probably either not register it or even see it as an insult, as it might make you believe the other person has no clue what they are talking about or misleading you.

Of course we are just speaking from our perspectives ourselves.

I just hope that something, possibly some external event, will be strong and positive enough to see you a different side and make you realize that there IS love for you, even though it may not come in the way you expected it or thought you`d needed it.

Life has a tendency to surprise us.

My heartfelt wish is for you having an open mind and heart, to be able to also feel the good life offers you. And yes, I am absolutely certain there ARE good things in your life, too, that for some reason you don`t see at the moment.


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posted August 23, 2015 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Rosalind,

I wished I could wave a magic wand and make you see the beauty in life.
But the thing is we all have our lenses through which we perceive life. And if you perceive your life as difficult, then that`s just what it is.

Our perspectives determine our experiences a lot more than most of the so-called "facts of life", though I admit, that some people seem to have to shoulder more difficult or challenging life-experiences than others.

However your perspective is your own, and at the moment you`re quite attached to it, so it really doesn`t matter what anyone else sais. If it does not fit your beliefs, you will probably either not register it or even see it as an insult, as it might make you believe the other person has no clue what they are talking about or misleading you.

Of course we are just speaking from our perspectives ourselves.

I just hope that something, possibly some external event, will be strong and positive enough to see you a different side and make you realize that there IS love for you, even though it may not come in the way you expected it or thought you`d needed it.

Life has a tendency to surprise us.

My heartfelt wish is for you having an open mind and heart, to be able to also feel the good life offers you. And yes, I am absolutely certain there ARE good things in your life, too, that for some reason you don`t see at the moment.


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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Mr Sag has Uranus in 8th house and Tr Saturn had been conjunct it, wait, let`s see on 27th october 2014.
Oh really?

Of course this was a conjunction for him, not a square.

Interesting that we both were going through a SAturn-Uranus-thing involving our 8th house planet, mmmh.


Ahem.

tURA in 8H opposite natal 1H SATURN, thankyeverymuch.

For me, it's overhauling my sexuality. I'm also becoming something of a beacon for asexuals seeking to incorporate a sexuality they understand.

It's not just about death, guys.

Though, I HAVE had some terrible health anxiety attacks. And all is well. It's just anxiety.

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