posted December 13, 2015 08:26 PM            

Marriage and the Navamsa Chart (9th Harmonic Chart)

Compliments of Ceridwen who emailed this to me.

posted December 13, 2015 08:37 PM            

Just my luck, I have a grand cross

22 Taurus sun
24 Leo Jupiter
24 Aqua Mars
24 Scorpio MC
Also 24 Cancer Neptune

Additionally I have:
29 Taurus Venus
29 Leo Uranus

My husband has, in the 9th harmonic:
22 Scorpio NN
24 Sag Pluto
26 Aqua Venus

So we have Venus conjunct Mars in Aquarius. That's nice.

Also:
My Pluto 15 Cap
My Mercury 15 Scorpio
His Mercury 16 Cap
His Mars 14 Scorpio

Grand finale, if 3 degree orbs count -- sun/moon DW:

My sun 22 Taurus
His moon 19 Scorpio
My moon 13 Sag
His sun 10 Gemini

posted December 13, 2015 08:44 PM            

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Originally posted by angel4845:
watching now faith

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posted December 13, 2015 08:45 PM            

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Originally posted by athenaia:
Ooo Faith have you ever heard of Kapiel Raaj? He has all sorts of vedic videos on YouTube. Me and MissBlyss got a reading by him to read our Navamsa chart and it's pretty nuts - it's in this thread

I'm gonna go watch the video you posted now Perfect timing as I've been so obsessed with vedic all month

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Yeah I love that guy

'Will check out your thread later!

posted December 13, 2015 09:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:

Me, too. I hope everyone knows how to pull up the harmonic charts at astro.com? It's pretty simple. Where it says: "Please select the type of chart you want" scroll down to "Harmonic chart (please enter harmonic number in day field)." Right next to where it says, "Start date for charts marked with *" put a number 9 in that box.

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awesome faith thanks! I'm still watching now I'm at the 17th harmonic discussion now

posted December 13, 2015 09:09 PM            

here is David Cochrane's Guide on the First 32 Harmonics....if you guys are interested in knowing his study on the 32 harmonics.

posted December 13, 2015 09:10 PM            

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Originally posted by EmGem:
love this thread!

Is there a way to do 9th harmonic synastry wheels on astro?

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All the credit goes to Ceri.

posted December 13, 2015 09:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Yeah I love that guy

'Will check out your thread later!

This video isn't about Vedic astrology...not really...it's using a Vedic technique with your Western placements.

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posted December 13, 2015 09:22 PM            

There's some kind of Venus/NN thing going on.

Her Venus on my NN in natal synastry

My Venus on her NN in 9th harmonic synastry

Venus conjunct Venus (2*) in draconic synastry

posted December 13, 2015 09:22 PM            

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Originally posted by angel4845:
http://www.astrosoftware.com/harmonicfirst32.pdf

here is David Cochrane's Guide on the First 32 Harmonics....if you guys are interested in knowing his study on the 32 harmonics.

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Thank you!!

Quote from there:

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The 9th harmonic indicates the marriage partner, or ideal marriage partner. The fruit of one’s labor. Becoming the father or mother of some area of study or development (Addey). It indicates our capacity for joy. happiness, and peace (Hamblin) or how we can be at peace (Bob Marks). It is the completion and the end of a cycle that is destined to occur (Jay). "The 9th Harmonic is the fruit of the tree: it is both the chart of the soul mate and the chart of the soul itself. Additionally, astrologer Addey, father of harmonics, said the 9th also represents some particular life work towards which you are heading, whether we know it or not" (Delphine Jay from http://www.aquarius-atlanta.com/aug04/harmonic.shtml). The 1/9 aspect indicates problems that can be overcome, and the ability to unlock constrictions, and thus be a catalyst of self-enhancement (Godefrey). The 9th harmonic seeks acceptance and inclusion in a larger community (Cochrane)

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posted December 13, 2015 09:26 PM            

Must be fate.

posted December 13, 2015 09:30 PM            

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Originally posted by athenaia:
I have an attachment to my western placements that vedic can never truly replace as is

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posted December 13, 2015 10:44 PM            

My NN 0 Cap
His sun 0 Cancer

Compare with:
Husband's NN 22 Scorpio
My sun 22 Taurus

posted December 13, 2015 11:34 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
9th harmonic synastry with ex-soulmate:

My NN 0 Cap
His sun 0 Cancer

Compare with:
Husband's NN 22 Scorpio
My sun 22 Taurus

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nice! and love the double whammy that you have with you husband sun moon DW niiiiice.

so far no one has activated my sun conjunct moon in cancer and my venus in leo . but its oaky just means i haven't found the right person to make me truly happy hehe!

however i do have a eros conjunct psyche in the 9th harmonic synastry with someone what's your thought on that? i do feel an intense spiritual connection with this person to be honest PLUS our 9th harmonic vertex's are activating eros conjunct psyche in aspect.

posted December 13, 2015 11:42 PM            

I don't know if that's what it means, though.

Eros-Psyche looks great! I am just starting to wrap my head around this concept, so forgive me for not being able to add anything insightful.

posted December 14, 2015 01:37 AM              

What I took from the video
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a) analysis of each personīs own 9th harmonic in terms of:

° symmetrical aspectconfigurations (for example: T-square, grand Cross, Grand Trine etc. - personally I also check for the Pythagorean triangle, though it is assymetrical, but as a large closed pattern I consider it important)

° stellia within about 9 degrees, which means these planets natally are either in conjunction or in any of the 9th harmonic aspects to each other (I use 9 degree, cause a 9 degree conj. in 9th harmonic, would appear as a 9th harmonic aspect within 1 degree in natal chart, and I do not use much more than 1 degree with noviles in the natal chart. David Cochrane uses a 16 degree orb for the conjunction in harmonic charts for one person, not synastry)

° I then check if there are aspects to such stellia, even if not making a closed pattern; in fact I think those might become VITAL in the synastry for someone else might be closing such a pattern for us

° I investigate the aspects of Moon, Venus and Juno, because they are especially thematically relevant.

I mean if there is an unaspected Uranus or Neptune in the 9th harmonic chart, so be it.
But no Venus, Moon nor Juno?
I guess that would give me a big UOH-sign.

Also, of course it is always relevant if there are aspects of Venus, Moon or Juno to each other or to Sun (and I think also to Jupiter and Saturn), even if not in a complex aspect pattern.

One word on orbs: They are different in harmonic astrology.
Cochrane sais he uses 8° for a conjunction in synastry, which means that the orbs for the other aspects are approximately those:

opposition 4°
trine and square 2-3°
sextile 1,5°
quinkunx, semisquare, sesisquare 1°

roughly, of course we could make an accurate calculation of these (the basis is always the conjunction orb: opposition is that orb divided by 2, because the opposition is the 2nd harmonic, trine is the orb divided by 3, because it is the 3rd harmonic and so on; the beauty of this approach is,t hat the orbs stay consistent, no matter what harmonic you look at; and we have to keep in mind that an opposition in the 9th harmonic is not a true opposition but could be a sextile in the natal chart, or simply an aspect of 20° and its multiples).

Of course the strongest aspects are still the closest, and those coinciding with a midpoint picture with an orb of 0°30 and less. (direct midpoints only, conjunction and opposition)

synastry

° activation of each natals most relevant patterns by overlaying/ conjunct at least one corner of it

° pattern completion

° synastric stellia and their aspects

° (isolated) aspect to each Moon, Venus, Juno, (Sun)

be careful with interpreting angles though (ASC, MC, Vertex), while those are absolutely important, you can only use them if your birthtime is absolutely correct, and only in terms of conjunctions, as even if your birthtimes is just maybe 5 minutes off you might end up with a totally different ASC-degree, as you can imagine. the 9th harmonic chart is being calculated by multiplaying each degree by 9.
This is especially true for people with the fast rising ascendents like Aquarius, Pisces and Aries. They can be a nightmare in harmonic astrology, as they are just SOOOOO timesensitive.

posted December 14, 2015 03:31 AM            

Natal:
A's Moon squares B's Saturn exact
A's Moon trines B's Ceres exact
Again!
9th Harmonic:
A's Moon squares B's Saturn (1)
A's Moon conjuncts B's Ceres (1)

others...
Sun trine Mean Node DW exact
Venus conjunct Venus (1)
Venus square Pluto DW (1-2)
Mars square Saturn (2)