posted October 01, 2019 11:37 AM              

I get the sense that while there is some mutual attraction and romantic connection, it's more of a friend and romance type combo than a committed 7th House, long term relationship. There's not enough 1st and 7th House stuff going on (whether directly and/or with the ruler(s) of same), for it to signify a long term/committed type connection.

I think you had the latter before with him (other lives wise), and that's why there is that draw, but you tend to bring heavy and/or insecure facilitating feelings to him (your Saturn right on his Asc and South Node), perhaps from that past, and it seems he is meant to help you develop greater independence and/or vice versa (his N. Node on your Ascendant). (Having Mars in the 10th natally, can speak to such as need and plan as well i.e. becoming more Martian).

That his Sun is in your 11th, speaks to a more friendship connection this life. Or at least, that's more how he will tend to feel towards you though there is other attraction as well.

I think all in all, while there is some mutual attraction, you are attracted more intensely to him than he to you since he captures your Scorpio Moon, Jupiter, North Node, and Pluto in his 8th House. Whether directly, or indirectly, he and this connection will help you to figure out some deeper psychological and shadow (unconscious) things about your deeper needs, desires, and/or limiting fears. Such 8th House connections usually involve some pain/difficulty.

I think ultimately, when it comes to long term, committed relationships (7th House types), you're going to attract/be attracted to someone more attuned to Saturn in some way, whether Saturn itself, and/or the Signs Capricorn and/or Aquarius (especially these Signs since Capricorn is also connected to your 5th and 7th, and any strong Aquarius would be opposite not just your Sun, but also your chart/Asc ruler in Leo). As well as some definite attunement to Scorpio. Perhaps also significantly older.

But yes, there is some strong attraction (opposite Rising Signs, Mars conjunct Mars, his Venus same Sign as your Mars, etc), but I would suggest that it's mostly physical/sexual and the pull of the past. There is some deeper love and emotional harmony too, with your Venus on his Moon and in Libra nonetheless. But that could also get translated or directed to a very close friendship as well.

With all that said, I am most likely not seeing the whole picture, and so I would suggest going within as well. We all have an internal guidance system that can help us with knowing what's best or not for us.

It is far better to go within (generally speaking), under more ideal circumstances and with no preconceptions, and ask Guidance, than asking fellow humans. If you are interested, I can share some meditation tips that have helped me to better attune to and receive direct guidance.

Most of us receive guidance already in the form of dreams, intuitive nudges, and gut feelings but it can become more varied and direct ime. There is a lot than can help with this besides meditation-prayer combos. Even diet and health lifestyle can play a big role. It's a very potentially very holistic process of attunement.

You have an interesting chart btw. I'm wondering how your chart ruler, Mercury, so closely conjunct Sun in Leo plays out for you? I see the Sun as like a higher octave of Leo. Whereas Leo I see as sort of a yellow orange blend type energy, I see Sun as a Golden Light (yellow infused with White Light).

posted October 01, 2019 11:51 AM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Hi Kate, took a look at your Synastry.

I get the sense that while there is some mutual attraction and romantic connection, it's more of a friend and romance type combo than a committed 7th House, long term relationship. There's not enough 1st and 7th House stuff going on (whether directly and/or with the ruler(s) of same), for it to signify a long term/committed type connection.

I think you had the latter before with him (other lives wise), and that's why there is that draw, but you tend to bring heavy and/or insecure facilitating feelings to him (your Saturn right on his Asc and South Node), perhaps from that past, and it seems he is meant to help you develop greater independence and/or vice versa (his N. Node on your Ascendant). (Having Mars in the 10th natally, can speak to such as need and plan as well i.e. becoming more Martian).

That his Sun is in your 11th, speaks to a more friendship connection this life. Or at least, that's more how he will tend to feel towards you though there is other attraction as well.

I think all in all, while there is some mutual attraction, you are attracted more intensely to him than he to you since he captures your Scorpio Moon, Jupiter, North Node, and Pluto in his 8th House. Whether directly, or indirectly, he and this connection will help you to figure out some deeper psychological and shadow (unconscious) things about your deeper needs, desires, and/or limiting fears. Such 8th House connections usually involve some pain/difficulty.

I think ultimately, when it comes to long term, committed relationships (7th House types), you're going to attract/be attracted to someone more attuned to Saturn in some way, whether Saturn itself, and/or the Signs Capricorn and/or Aquarius (especially these Signs since Capricorn is also connected to your 5th and 7th, and any strong Aquarius would be opposite not just your Sun, but also your chart/Asc ruler in Leo). As well as some definite attunement to Scorpio. Perhaps also significantly older.

But yes, there is some strong attraction (opposite Rising Signs, Mars conjunct Mars, his Venus same Sign as your Mars, etc), but I would suggest that it's mostly physical/sexual and the pull of the past. There is some deeper love and emotional harmony too, with your Venus on his Moon and in Libra nonetheless. But that could also get translated or directed to a very close friendship as well.

With all that said, I am most likely not seeing the whole picture, and so I would suggest going within as well. [B/] We all have an internal guidance system that can help us with knowing what's best or not for us.

It is far better to go within (generally speaking), under more ideal circumstances and with no preconceptions, and ask Guidance, than asking fellow humans. If you are interested, I can share some meditation tips that have helped me to better attune to and receive direct guidance.

Most of us receive guidance already in the form of dreams, intuitive nudges, and gut feelings but it can become more varied and direct ime. There is a lot than can help with this besides meditation-prayer combos. Even diet and health lifestyle can play a big role. It's a very potentially holistic process of attunement.

You have an interesting chart btw. I'm wondering how your chart ruler, Mercury, so closely conjunct Sun in Leo plays out for you? I see the Sun as like a higher octave of Leo. Whereas Leo I see as sort of a yellow orange blend type energy, I see Sun as a Golden Light (yellow infused with White Light).

Your chart also reminds me of the person I recently talked about on this thread in some strong and repeating ways oddly. She has Virgo Rising, Scorpio Moon and N. Node, Neptune and Uranus in 5th, Pisces Saturn in the 7th, strong Leo (in her case, Mars ruled her Sun, Moon, N. Node, and 8th/3rd, and was in Leo), and her chart ruler is conjunct her Sun. [/B]

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Thanks, I have read these things also..
I am really not into older people. I really prefer someone my age but I have heard this advice before.

Indeed the friendship is close but some situation took place that triggered me...

We can't see the whole picture. It all depends of the circumstances

posted October 01, 2019 11:53 AM              

I'm trying to keep an open and skeptical mind, including that we might not actually be Twin Souls. Certainly did experience a lot of way beyond chance seeming synchronicity (and a very powerful magnetic attraction, at least me to her), but sometimes coincidence does happen.

Yeah, it can be hard to tell with Neptune squares. We also have some of that natally and synastric wise. Her Venus Saturn conjunction closely squares my Neptune for example. Since there is an age gap, and we're both rather attuned to Neptune, I pay more close attention to these aspects than I would normally.

Your welcome for the feedback, and thank you for the well wishes--the weekend trip overall was quite nice.

posted October 03, 2019 01:53 PM            

It's me and the Scorpio Moon girl I mentioned on this post.
I'm blue, she's orange.

https://i.ibb.co/gdvpQyK/Screenshot-2019-09-22-at-19-08-22.png

posted October 04, 2019 07:26 AM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
I'll try to check it out in the near to nearish future NotSoSure. I won't have access to a proper typing device for awhile tomorrow, and it seems like this weekend will be rather busy, so don't know exactly when I'll get to it. Hence, I'm not so sure, NotSoSure.

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posted October 04, 2019 06:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Hi Kate,
it seems you have a longtime bond rooted in the past.
There is spontaneous affection, sympathy, a potential intimacy, but the Saturn square Venus and Venus square to your ASC/Chiron signal that a committed romantic relationship might be challenged. With Mars square Jupiter, some selfish attitudes can play out here and he may be easily detached with his Uranus square your Moon. It all looks more favourable for friendship. Btw, if you can post a composite, I can give a further look to see how these aspects would play out.

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posted October 04, 2019 06:48 PM            

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Originally posted by kate999:
😭😭😭😭 these challenges. So if these challenges are worked out, intimacy could happend?

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posted October 04, 2019 06:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Yes, the Venus/Pluto/Saturn is very nice, and the Uranus opposite Venus adds the attraction.
I think this is a lasting bond, but not in a traditional committed way. If it gets romantic, it can have much instability and lack of direction, cause of the MC square ASC. But if you deal with that underlying instability and dont idealize it too much, you can establish the bond on a deep emotional, exciting basis. Pluto in 12th house is also very transformative, this is a relationship that can deeply enrich you and your awareness.

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posted October 04, 2019 07:08 PM            

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Originally posted by kate999:
Okay well that's good to know, cuz it's just recently that my feelings shift. I never seen him that way, and I have known him for a very longtime..

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Are you just friends or in a romantic rs already?

posted October 04, 2019 07:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
The second image from astro.com looks a little different though! What is the first one then?

Here you have a Kite, involving the Sun conjunct Venus opposite Neptune/Uranus and the t-square involving Moon. This points to the fact that the is inspiring karmic again, but you might be misled about its true nature, and have to stay more grounded about your expectations. This seems meant to develope for your own "growing up". The bond will last on a different way as you expect. You wont lose each other, but a romantic involvement might not play out on long term.

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posted October 04, 2019 07:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Are you just friends or in a romantic rs already?

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posted October 04, 2019 07:23 PM            

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Originally posted by kate999:
Not a relationship. Friends, however if this is going where I think it may go. This friendship may be lost then... I dont wanna based myself on all of that, but I'm really not here to deal with more pain.

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It doesnt look so painful. It looks quite creative and inspiring, actually. But since the MC is square to ASC, Neptune square to Moon and Saturn in 10th square to Mars, it can be that things will develope differently than you have imagined, and you feelings might change too. Or, it can happen that you can manage such relationship in a very free, non traditional basis. It all looks positive for you own experience, not negative :-)

posted October 04, 2019 07:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
It doesnt look so painful. It looks quite creative and inspiring, actually. But since the MC is square to ASC, Neptune square to Moon and Saturn in 10th square to Mars, it can be that things will develope differently than you have imagined, and you feelings might change too. Or, it can happen that you can manage such relationship in a very free, non traditional basis. It all looks positive for you own experience, not negative :-)

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Lmao, I see what you are doing here. We not going no open relationships 😂😂😂😂! Not on my watch. But the rest when it comes to free. I can deal..

posted October 04, 2019 07:34 PM            

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Originally posted by kate999:
Lmao, I see what you are doing here. We not going no open relationships 😂😂😂😂! Not on my watch. But the rest when it comes to free. I can deal..

But yeah all of this takes free will, work things out despite it all. But it's good to recognize what traits can come out from this relationship

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posted October 04, 2019 08:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
That is not what I meant... I mean that "whether" you start a romantic rs with him, things might not be long term, OR it might have a non-traditional trait somehow. Maybe even within a committed relationship, you might develope more your friendship bond than the romantic one, and despite this, you might still love each other as a couple... just for instance. I mainly think that there is an unstable trait here for long term, but some relationship can last years even with such trait... and btw, I might be completely wrong :-)

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posted October 04, 2019 08:41 PM            

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Originally posted by kate999:

I understand, well I will know how it goes when I talk to him about it. I just felt something so intense during the summer. Its like there was a shift and everything was always well and natural between us but his behavior also changed towards me..ive grown to really like him. :-)

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posted October 04, 2019 10:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
The trine involving Pluto/Saturn/Venus looks like things can always develope for you, in a mutual way. Comp. Uranus opposite Venus can give sudden strong attraction, and then you have Comp. Sun conjunct Venus, this usually show true love :-)

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posted October 05, 2019 11:58 PM              

I'm having a hard time reading the chart you shared. Like, I can't tell what her Ascendant and Houses are?

posted October 06, 2019 07:36 AM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Hi NotSoSure,

I'm having a hard time reading the chart you shared. Like, I can't tell what her Ascendant and Houses are?

To be honest, I actually prefer two natals and comparing side by side.

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Hi GalacticCoreExplosion,

Sorry about that!
Unfortunately I don't have her ToB... So I'm simulating 9pm for her.

I'm giving you a few options:

Mine:
[img]https://i.ibb.co/9N7gpHM/mine.jpg[/img]

Hers:
[img]https://i.ibb.co/52TBPtB/hers.jpg[/img]
(houses and AC not confirmed)

Synastry:
[img]https://i.ibb.co/hYRXTzx/synistry.jpg[/img]

Comp:
[img]https://i.ibb.co/8KRdMVF/comp.jpg[/img]
(houses and AC not confirmed)

posted October 08, 2019 10:18 AM              

The Ascendant and Angles are that crucial and pivotal.

posted October 08, 2019 01:29 PM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
I have to be direct and honest NotSoSure. I always tend to be very hesitant to delineate either natal charts, and especially synastric comparisons, without a known birth time.

The Ascendant and Angles are that crucial and pivotal.

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Of course, I get that!
Thank you anyway! I'll try to find out her ToB and then update you