posted September 25, 2019 09:01 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Libra's idea of fairness can be from a rather personal perspective. E.g. my Libra Moon guy suggested that I help him with his biz. He said I'll be paid dividends which means I won't get a regular salary. I don't find it fair as it means I'll most likely work for free at least at the start-up stage. Does he think this is fair or is he just trying to create a platform where we can meet daily? Hmm...

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Giving you dividends means he wants you as his biz partner and not as his employee, he wants you to work with him and not for him. If it’s fair from a financial point of view I’m not sure. But sometimes you can get more income from dividends than a regular salary.

If it’s a start-up it’s very unlikely that he will have income to share, most of the cases he will invest money, and no profit for the first year. Depending on the start-up.

However, you should not “work” for free, unless you want to volunteer and help him starting up. It’s a decision that only you can make. And when you think something is not fair please tell him. We Libra Moons make bad decisions a lot of times and we love to hear different opinions.

posted September 25, 2019 09:39 AM            

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Originally posted by NotSoSure:
Signs when i know people like me?

Not always is clear, but if i observe the following then it can support my verdict:
Some are a bit cliche tho...

1. Stares longer than usual.
2. Nervous around me.
3. Smiling with their eyes.
4. Treating you differently from other people.
5. Bumping into you intentionally "Oh! What a coincidence!" yeah right... 😜
6. Trusts you to the point of telling you personal things they wouldn't tell to other people.
7. Small actions like giving you things for no reason.
8. Remembers everything about you.
9. Making excuses to talk to you.

If i remember more i'll let you know!

Is this what you meant?

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posted September 25, 2019 09:58 AM            

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Originally posted by kate999:
Lmao. Thanks now I feel bad, last time I brought him a a bite to eat when he got out the job. Looking like a damn clown 😭💀

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LMAO!

That's so cute tho... ☺️

posted September 25, 2019 10:33 AM            

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Originally posted by NotSoSure:
Giving you dividends means he wants you as his biz partner and not as his employee, he wants you to work with him and not for him. If it’s fair from a financial point of view I’m not sure. But sometimes you can get more income from dividends than a regular salary.

If it’s a start-up it’s very unlikely that he will have income to share, most of the cases he will invest money, and no profit for the first year. Depending on the start-up.

However, you should not “work” for free, unless you want to volunteer and help him starting up. It’s a decision that only you can make. And when you think something is not fair please tell him. We Libra Moons make bad decisions a lot of times and we love to hear different opinions.

Yes it could also mean he is trying to find an excuse to be close to you more often... but nevertheless never feel forced to do something you don’t want to.

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posted September 25, 2019 11:07 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Ya, with start-ups we can't expect to make profits immediately. The thing is he said he wants me to run the biz for him while he explores something else. Hmm... I don't know what's on his mind. I told him I don't mind helping him by the side but I don't wanna "work" for free. Running the biz sounds like full-time work.

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posted September 25, 2019 11:38 AM              

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
@Kate,
If you really like this guy, then don't worry so much about your incompatible Moon signs. Astrology helps you understand how each sign behaves and the likely manifestations of aspects, and from there you learn how to manage it.

There are other nice aspects in your synastry, so focus on those.

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+1

posted September 25, 2019 11:52 AM            

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Originally posted by NotSoSure:
I’m almost beating Kate on the post count. 🕺🏻

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posted September 25, 2019 12:06 PM              

Hi Kate, I prefer to teach people to fish rather than handing them fish.

I can give you some general pointers of consistent patterns I've noticed between charts of unusually close, stable, and loving connections.

One thing I've often noticed in charts of Twin Souls and closer, more loving Soulmate type connections, is a combo of a lot of same and opposite Sign energy between especially different points/symbols to different points/symbols. So like Sun same or opposite Sign as the others Rising, Moon, Venus, Mars, Moon's Nodes, and/or Jupiter. In fact any one of those different combos of those particular set of symbols.

Then, strong connections between one person's ruler(s) of the 1st and 7th Houses to the other person's 7th House and 1st House rulers.

8th House connections, both in actual overlays and with strong major aspects of the ruler(s) of same to Sun, Rising, Moon, Venus, Mars, Moon's Nodes, or rulers of the 1st, 4th, 5th, 7th, and 8th. (Some folks can't deal well with strong 8th House connections though. These do often have strongly karmic undertones, like with Saturn and Pluto aspects and connections as well).

Course 5th House overlays and connections in connection with 1st, 4th, 7th, and/or 8th Houses.

Generally speaking, whether in direct overlays or involving strong aspects with the rulers of same, the Houses most noticed and activated in very close relationships are the 1st, 4th, 5th, 7th, and 8th. Sometimes the 10th.

Perhaps the single most sexually and romantically intense aspect to have seems to be the Venus Mars oppositon, followed closely by the conjunction and the square, but the square doesn't usually end too well nor is too stable/long lasting that I've observed. Moon opposite and conjunct Mars is also quite intense sexually, and in some ways, can have even more of a raw, hunger vibe to it than the Venus Mars contacts.

Inconjuncts are NOT a minor aspect in synastry btw. They carry a 6th and 8th House vibe and flavor with them, but like 5th House connections, they can be more one way than with same and opposite Sign/point/House connections.

One person feels the 8th House part, and they are often quite magnetized and even obsessed by the other--sometimes unhealthily so. The other person feels the 6th House part, and tends to be more detached, but sometimes feels a sense of duty or obligation to the other person. They can even find themselves in the situation of being used or allowing themselves to be used.

I pay closer attention to outer planet connections, especially Neptune and Pluto, only when there is a generational gap, the aspects are very close, and/or one or both of the people involved are very attuned to those energies. Reason being is that these aspects are so generational and we share so many of the same aspects with people born near us. And really, I like to have at least two of the above conditions met before I really focus more closely on those aspects.

This is a distilled summary of a lot of repeating pattern observation over two decades plus.

But, astrology or not, it's also important to listen to one's own intuition and inner guidance system. We all have a guidance system who knows us far better than we know ourselves. It's a matter of learning to listen, and attune oneself to those forces and levels that seek to help us to spiritually grow.

The harsh truth and fact of the matter is that the huge majority of relationships seem to be karmic in nature. Twin Souls as mates, is actually a bit rare. You're just as likely to find a Twin Soul as a family member or someone you otherwise cannot be with romantically because of outside, powerful circumstances. Or, sometimes they don't incarnate with us, but act as guides from the nonphysical.

And really, at the end of the day, All Souls and Spirits are One, and completely interconnected. That's the highest truth, and the one worth most focusing on as an ideal.

posted September 25, 2019 12:36 PM            

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I’m not really extroverted, even though my Libra Moon tries to show that I am to people. Could be being in the 8th House and conjunct Pluto, plus sun Square Pluto!

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Originally posted by NotSoSure:

Yes she tries to become cold towards me, it’s like she has a switch button. But I can handle that. She really hates the fact that I think she likes me. So she keeps showing the opposite. And sometimes I can feel that she is thinking something like: “why the heck he likes me?”

Haha I’m not a womanizer and not professional with girls 😂 I just love to analyze and study people’s behaviors, both male and female. I don’t even like dating!

I’m usually not a patient person when it comes to material things, I want everything now. But when I see someone worth it I become very patient. Sometimes ridiculously patient! It even surprises myself.

I value and respect people like her. I don’t like women who are to quick to jump on anything. It’s a turn off to me.

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posted September 25, 2019 12:47 PM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
I prefer to teach people to fish rather than handing them fish.

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posted September 25, 2019 01:00 PM              

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
[b] I prefer to teach people to fish rather than handing them fish.

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I'm not sure Librapurr. Really depends. All in all, I pay more attention to Planets than I do to signs.

You could have two charts that are identical in every way, but one chart with one Planet Rising, and the other with a different Planet Rising, and there would be a noticable difference in their overall core energies and deeper character.

They might share some similar superficial commonalities and traits, or outer life patterns in some ways, but at core, Soul level, they were will be very different people. Especially if the vibrational difference between the most highlighted planets/symbols are very different.

Say one person with Saturn, Mars, Pluto, or Mercury Rising (these represent and connect to the lower centers/chakras in the body) vs say someone with Sun, Jupiter, or Neptune Rising (these represent and connect to the highest centers in the body).

Actually, Pluto is odd in that it can connect with both higher or lower centers, and similar with Uranus, but also different in that Uranus when predominant swings back and forth between them. Pluto relates a lot of the concept and energy of Kundalini. Both can be used for both constructive and destructive purposes. Depends on the informing intention and direction of the energy.

With Venus at the mid point or "heart", thymus center.

The astrology I practice and have honed, has been very influenced by the Edgar Cayce readings and my own direct nonphysical guidance, as well as long time experience/observation.

posted September 25, 2019 01:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Libra's idea of fairness can be from a rather personal perspective. E.g. my Libra Moon guy suggested that I help him with his biz. He said I'll be paid dividends which means I won't get a regular salary. I don't find it fair as it means I'll most likely work for free at least at the start-up stage. Does he think this is fair or is he just trying to create a platform where we can meet daily? Hmm...

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posted September 25, 2019 01:19 PM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
I'm not sure Librapurr. Really depends. All in all, I pay more attention to Planets than I do to signs.

You could have two charts that are identical in every way, but one chart with one Planet Rising, and the other with a different Planet Rising, and there would be a noticable difference in their overall core energies and deeper character.

They might share some similar superficial commonalities and traits, or outer life patterns in some ways, but at core, Soul level, they were will be very different people. Especially if the vibrational difference between the most highlighted planets/symbols are very different.

Say one person with Saturn, Mars, Pluto, or Mercury Rising (these represent and connect to the lower centers/chakras in the body) vs say someone with Sun, Jupiter, or Neptune Rising (these represent and connect to the highest centers in the body).

Actually, Pluto is odd in that it can connect with both higher or lower centers, and similar with Uranus, but also different in that Uranus when predominant swings back and forth between them. Pluto relates a lot of the concept and energy of Kundalini. Both can be used for both constructive and destructive purposes. Depends on the informing intention and direction of the energy.

With Venus at the mid point or "heart", thymus center.

The astrology I practice and have honed, has been very influenced by the Edgar Cayce readings and my own direct nonphysical guidance, as well as long time experience/observation.

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posted September 25, 2019 02:30 PM            

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I’m not really extroverted, even though my Libra Moon tries to show that I am to people. Could be being in the 8th House and conjunct Pluto, plus sun Square Pluto!

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Originally posted by Librapurr:
You could be pretty Plutonic so be careful about being too stuck and obsessed with her. It can give you Scorpio like vibes.

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Oh **** 🤭

I think I have that under control, I don't feel obsessed with her, I'm pretty relaxed actually. I think!

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Originally posted by Librapurr:
I like to analyze people psychology too, It's pretty Libra thing But when I get too emotional, I'm losing it ( I guess I could go in Scorpio/ Pluto mode plus Uranus brings crazy energy. My intellectual Libra/Virgo don't like it
Cold is protection from overheating 😉
What is her Venus/Mars/ Sun? I used to don't like when somebody knew I like them in the past, it's like you you're giving away your power But I learn to be more open without feeling like you're showing/ giving too much.

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You also have a lot of Pluto going on in your chart!

posted September 25, 2019 02:32 PM            

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Originally posted by kate999:
Not you are not! I'm gonna beat u ahahahah

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posted September 25, 2019 03:03 PM            

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Originally posted by NotSoSure:
You also have a lot of Pluto going on in your chart!

She is Pisces Sun, Venus in Capricorn (!) and Mars in Aires.
(I'm Pisces rising).

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posted September 25, 2019 03:14 PM            

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Venus in Capricorn could be shy that's why she doesn't like when you touch her romance area)

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posted September 25, 2019 10:29 PM              

A Planet Rising specifically refers to a Planet conjunct the Ascendant and/or in the 1st House.

But a Planet can gain extra highlighting in other ways as well. Such the ruler of the Ascendant being conjunct a Planet and say that Planet also near another Angle.

The strongest/most highlighted Planet in a chart, represents the nonphysical dimension/level of consciousness that one entered into the Earth/physical level from. Quite often, but not always, this is the Planet closest to the Ascendant. If there is no Planet that is nowhere even close to the Ascendant, then often it's the Planet closest to the Mid Heaven.

If neither is particularly applicable, then it becomes a little more involved and relative to figure out.

As to Pluto and Kundalini, choosing a positive ideal of some kind, and trying to live by that in interaction with others, is the first and most important step in redirecting that energy in constructive channels.

I do not recommend Kundalini Yoga practice. It's not an energy that most people should be trying to stimulate. If it's stimulated prematurely, it will get blocked at one of the slower vibratory glandular centers, and over stimulate the slower vibratory center(s). This leads to many issues.

Increased egotism, increased desire for control over others, overly hyper sex drive, increased materialism, increased personality magnetism, lowered empathy and ethics, etc.

Basically, it turns people more narcissistic or socipopathic in nature. There are A LOT of "gurus" who have or do fall under this condition, and the horror stories of abuse of others, scandal, lack of ethics, raging sex drives, over inflated egotism, lack of honesty, manipulation of others, etc, etc abound and are all too common.

Not all of it is about Kundalini. Unfortunately, some of it is about power and authority attracting those least fit for such positions and interactions with others. But, I suspect some "gurus gone bad" probably started out with decent to positive intentions, but over stimulated their Kundalini prematurely before there was enough attunement to Love/Oneness consciousness and enough personal purification and inner balance.

I should clarify some about Pluto. Pluto is an excellent symbol to have strong/highlighted, when it's primarily the fastest vibratory symbols, such as Arcturus, Sun, Jupiter, and/or Neptune that predominate in the chart.

But when the slowest vibratory symbols/planets, such as Saturn, Mars, Moon, and/or Mercury that dominate, and then Pluto is also very strong, it often indicates a perfect storm of over ego and lack of attunement to Love, empathy, way too much self centeredness, etc.

We're not talking Signs here. Capricorn and Aquarius do not equal Saturn. Mars does not equal Aries nor Scorpio. Pluto does not equal Scorpio, etc. Planets and Signs are different levels and different energies. There are loose, archetypal connections between them, but in many cases there are significant differences between the Planetary rulers and their corresponding Signs.

Do you have your chart up somewhere?

posted September 26, 2019 10:40 PM              

Took a look at your chart. Assuming it's very accurate (I never assume that, both for potential mundane reasons and because of what Edgar Cayce said about the potential difference between the spiritual and physical birth times), I don't know why you speak as if your Sun and Moon are in the 12th House?

They are extremely close to your Ascendant. Being so close to same, they would be the MOST amplified symbols in your chart (again, assuming your chart is quite accurate).

It's an interesting combo to have right on one's Ascendant, especially in the Sign of Libra. Libra is all about seeking balance, and here we have a rather Yin symbol, merged with a Yang polarized symbol* (the Sun). Then not only that, your chart/Ascendant ruler, Venus, is in a Yin Sign but conjunct Mars--the most Yang symbol of them all.

Right away, that's a whole lot of powerful blending and merging between Yin and Yang, which along with the very powerful Sun, suggests to me that you are rather old/mature Soul most likely. (the strong Jupiter, and the moderate Neptune support that notion and pattern).

But, you definitely are bringing over some other life baggage and karma relating to sexual energy, use of others resources, etc via the very highlighted Scorpio and Pluto in relation very karmic and past symbols such as the South Node and the IC ruler, Saturn.

I feel like at some point you will meet a partner that will help you balance things out more. It may not be all peaches and cream, but this person will have a steadying/centering and balancing affect on you. They will be quite attuned to Venus (this is indicated in the chart in different ways, ruler of Descendant conjunct Venus, Sun and Moon in Libra (don't know what gender your body is, but it covers both bases), and Taurus North Node in 7th.

As to balancing yourself out meanwhile, there are many things that can help. Meditation can be quite helpful when it's the right kinds/types of meditation. Going into meditation willy nilly isn't actually always so good.

It's important to state an intention before opening self up in meditation, to connect to and get help and guidance from only those levels and forces that have your highest spiritual and holistic good in mind, and whom are very attuned Love and creative-constructive consciousness.

Then there are many other techniques that can be quite helpful in adjunct to meditation. Such as chanting/toning as a "charge up and balancing technique".

Then, remembering a time when you experienced and felt a lot of Love during your life. Can be anything, even just petting a beloved pet. It's the memory and even more the feelings that matter. Remembering that memory tends to bring up the feelings. Let the feelings well up and expand. Direct/feel it towards all of creation. If you've had some difficult interactions with others in recent memory, consider directing those expanded Love centered feelings towards them and/or yourself.

posted September 26, 2019 10:58 PM              

As the vibratory rates increase in speed/the consciousness expands and gets closer to pure Love in attunement/matching frequency, the more and more balanced and integrated between the Yin and Yang it becomes.

The Zodiac is a great example of this in many ways.

The fist 4 Signs in particular, are either uber Yang or Yin. Mid Aries is the most Yang polarized area of the Zodiac of all. Mid Taurus and Cancer are very Yin polarized.

But as you get to around Libra and Scorpio, an interesting pattern starts to emerge, not only does the energy/archetype become more complex and multi leveled in general, but there is a greater balance between the Yin and Yang. Libra a Yang Sign ruled by a Yin polarized Planet. Scorpio, a Yin Sign ruled by at least one Yang polarized Planet Mars (not so sure about Pluto. It definitely has both, but am not sure what it's more tipped to).

Then in Aquarius is where the magic really starts to happen. Aquarius cusping Pisces is probably the most androgynous/blended area of the Zodiac.

Applies to the Planets too. Mars, the symbol of the red vibration/wavelength, is quite Yang polarized.

But as the vibrational rate of speed increases, like when you get to Jupiter, that of the purple and a blend of red (Yang) and blue (at least slightly Yin), it's more blended/integrated, though Jupiter is definitely tipped to the Yang.

And back to the Sun. The highest expression and attunement of the Sun, is the Golden light, of the awakened Initiate. (though, only a relative minority percentage attune to it's highest level). Golden light is even faster vibratory than purple.

It only has a very slight Yang polarization to it. The next major "step" or level in consciousness after the Golden Light, is the White Light, and it's in the White Light that full merging is attained, both not only in the conscious Oneness and pure Love sense, but also in the sense of the inner Yin and Yang polarity. The two different sides of the coin of consciousness, meld into one indistinguishable wave form.

And really, that's how it actually started and always truly was. But false beliefs and limiting choices put up a veil around the core, fundamental truth, and so we temporarily experience polarization and imbalance.

posted September 27, 2019 06:24 AM            

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Originally posted by Librapurr:

Libra's desire to please and be fair sometimes end up in their disadvantage. So they learn with age/experience to protect their interests and separate business and personal somehow)
Especially, if he runs business he probably knows it well.

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posted September 27, 2019 08:28 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Sounds like this arrangement is just to his advantage.

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