posted January 11, 2023 08:41 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by StoneMoon:
Thank you! Yes, this resonates.

The past is something I did struggle with, and it definitely held me back. Your interpretation is correct that I am beginning to emerge as my true self, and really starting to shine again. I hope your reading indicates that the seven of swords and six of cups (r) are me in the past, and that I am currently following the hanged man and becoming the star.

I have done a LOT of soul searching the last two years, and I feel different now. I have been sure to let the universe know I am ready just about every day by declaring it loudly! 🤣

Again, thank you so much for taking the time to read for me!

I think taking things slow is right, and there's a beauty in that that we usually forget. Enjoy this connection for whatever it is, and only time will tell where it will go.

---

posted January 11, 2023 08:44 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by StoneMoon:
Looking at the composite-

I do see that Mercury Neptune opposite and I still feel there Is a lack of clarity in communication. The Saturn at MC could definitely be a sense of stability and being a :steady: couple in the public eye. Chiron is opposite that, at the bottom of the chart. I feel like whatever steadiness you show outwardly, your pain is almost well hidden. Perhaps it is something you nurse and tend together in your own private moments? Mars is nearby too...

Pluto is square this opposition, and in the 7th. Power struggles?

Moon in the 12th could go a number of ways, but I have often found it means emotions stay behind the scenes. So perhaps someone isn't able to discuss them, or doesn't feel able to share?

I do like the Taurus moon though- to me it kind of feels like what you are describing, building the emotional connection slowly but surely. And Taurus moon is lasting- when it loves, it loves for the long haul... although sometimes to its detriment.

I don't mind the 2nd house activity, and it reinforces the Taurus moon, esp since it sextiles it...

I still say caution, but you seem to be exercising that. And honestly, I know that for myself I have never let an astrology chart stop me from "feeling" something out. Always trust the in the moment feels over some potential analysis of the geometry and aspects.

---

posted January 12, 2023 12:28 PM            

His moon in your 4th, the sun/moon DW, the mars conjunct mars, trine Venus, …. I think you two are each others types for the most part. His sun in your 5th- fun! Mars in 6th- interesting and I would like to think this contributes to more Virgo like tendency to build health together…

A friendship may be easier to build steadiness, but with Taurus moon in composite I would think love grows out of consistency.

posted January 12, 2023 07:15 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by StoneMoon:
There is soul recognition I think, so while I don’t know that it’s hugely or overwhelmingly romantic, there is comfort there.

His moon in your 4th, the sun/moon DW, the mars conjunct mars, trine Venus, …. I think you two are each others types for the most part. His sun in your 5th- fun! Mars in 6th- interesting and I would like to think this contributes to more Virgo like tendency to build health together…

A friendship may be easier to build steadiness, but with Taurus moon in composite I would think love grows out of consistency.

Do you feel romantic sparks yourself towards him? I bet you already know if he feels them towards you- we just like confirmation. I understand- I am the same. 💕

---

posted January 12, 2023 07:59 PM            

your Mars is on his SN which doesn't help the speed thing. There's likely more too.. I'm just looking at your natal..

Nevertheless, I would really like to emphasise to you that, it is my opinion that you need to go so slowly with this guy. I believe this is a test for you that you must accomplish.

If you go too fast it will be sure to burn out and it could damage you given the recovery situation that you are in.

And I'm saying this because 1. there are incredibly intense aspects between you both, and 2. he's quite a man in control I suspect. And you never know if he just wants to take you for a ride.

This is not the time to abandon yourself and your own self care.

If he approaches you simply do yourself a favour and tell him that you, while may be interested, want to take things slowly. Go out for dinner, a walk (or something), and get to know each other. With his Leo planets he will surely like the gentle romancing that comes before a quality relationship if he is serious.

posted January 12, 2023 08:11 PM            

I don't think he is taking me for a ride. But there is a little bit of love bombing happening, I think from both sides because the energy is intense. I want to try and bring it down a bit. He is definitely a strong-willed person, I am worried we will eventually clash a bit because of his stubbornness. Just something I am picking up..

posted January 16, 2023 07:10 PM            

Yes, it is very seriously intense. Not trying to scare you but just saying.

I could feel your fear when first did the reading. Fear is sometimes good because it's warning you to protect. In this case, stay steady and careful.

Maybe you can just say that def not having anything sexual for X months. Until I really get to know him? And tell him this.

I was talking to my male friend recently, he waited 18 months for this girl that just would put-out until she felt ready. She had kids and had been through divorce and all that.

My friend told me that it only made him respect her more. So, there's that.

posted January 17, 2023 12:33 AM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by sassaqua:
Lol, you need a buffer, haha.

Yes, it is very seriously intense. Not trying to scare you but just saying.

I could feel your fear when first did the reading. Fear is sometimes good because it's warning you to protect. In this case, stay steady and careful.

Maybe you can just say that def not having anything sexual for X months. Until I really get to know him? And tell him this.

I was talking to my male friend recently, he waited 18 months for this girl that just would put-out until she felt ready. She had kids and had been through divorce and all that.

My friend told me that it only made him respect her more. So, there's that.

Thanks for the update - it's very interesting.

---

To be honest, we've been talking a lot about taking it slowly, like treading carefully - he's told me he wants something serious; he wants to build up to that. He's perfectly fine with waiting for the physical for as long as we can, I don't know how much I can do that for but we shall see. For now, I think we should take it a month at a time.

Also, apparently, he has never been much of a one-night stand person - but he's been on the receiving end of sexual abuse when he was young :/. I feel bad for sharing that here, but I think it does give some context to his chart. Nevertheless, he said he likes me - I can feel he likes me but there's a big part of me that's like "are you sure you like me?" haha. He wants to work on an emotional connection too...

posted January 17, 2023 05:25 AM            

Some - no, many - people wonder on the other side how the person they are with now, can be so different to the one they met only a few months ago.

I'm definitely not negative, just experienced and reality-based. It's an unfortunate truth about people, especially these days.

I appreciate that you may feel bad about sharing that information. And that is very sad to hear. It's treated with sensitivity and respect in this space. Maybe that is the heavy Chiron he has? It was Chiron and Pluto, no? I cannot quite recall the details, I'll have another look sometime...

But, still be careful. You want to see that he has learned how to use his Chiron in a positive way, and not in a way that victimise others, in a deformed effort to reestablish his own powerbase that has been violated.

Therefore, just be slow because someone somewhere can get triggered. There's a lot of sensitivity here.

posted January 18, 2023 02:03 AM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by sassaqua:
That's right LilyIris07, it's good to be suspicious because other hats do often drop after the initial romance has passed.

Some - no, many - people wonder on the other side how the person they are with now, can be so different to the one they met only a few months ago.

I'm definitely not negative, just experienced and reality-based. It's an unfortunate truth about people, especially these days.

I appreciate that you may feel bad about sharing that information. And that is very sad to hear. It's treated with sensitivity and respect in this space. Maybe that is the heavy Chiron he has? It was Chiron and Pluto, no? I cannot quite recall the details, I'll have another look sometime...

But, still be careful. You want to see that he has learned how to use his Chiron in a positive way, and not in a way that victimise others, in a deformed effort to reestablish his own powerbase that has been violated.

I'm sorry I've only got personal feedback at this time, and not more definite astrology insights for you.

Therefore, just be slow because someone somewhere can get triggered. There's a lot of sensitivity here.

---

posted January 18, 2023 07:58 AM            

I hope this relationship continues to blossom and to lead you both to positive growth. You both share some heavy life experiences and that can bring you closer to healing, and healing together can create a very loving bond. I pray this is what you find!

posted January 18, 2023 10:00 PM            

I am looking at the Composite chart.

posted January 19, 2023 12:59 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by LilyIris07:
But thank you for your deep reading and interpretation though Stoika; I appreciate it. I am now just trying to decide what to do with this information. Do you ever look at natal charts along side the composite?

---

Yes I do. Sorry for my negative take on this... the Saturn/Chiron/Pluto t-square doesnt often manifest openly, it is subtle and one experiences the negative effects of this energy over time... 9f course it depends on each person maturity and empathy, but the abusive/toxic energy of this aspect can have different faces and outcomes, and it usually depends on very different inner personalties clashing at one point... you can even have a longtime loving relationship with this aspect, but its negative effects will make you feel trapped and drained... I am aware its difficult to understand what to do with this information, I just think you may have to be cautious, especially cause of the neptune aspects which may not reveal issues.

posted January 19, 2023 06:14 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by Stoika7:
Yes I do. Sorry for my negative take on this... the Saturn/Chiron/Pluto t-square doesnt often manifest openly, it is subtle and one experiences the negative effects of this energy over time... 9f course it depends on each person maturity and empathy, but the abusive/toxic energy of this aspect can have different faces and outcomes, and it usually depends on very different inner personalties clashing at one point... you can even have a longtime loving relationship with this aspect, but its negative effects will make you feel trapped and drained... I am aware its difficult to understand what to do with this information, I just think you may have to be cautious, especially cause of the neptune aspects which may not reveal issues.

---

posted January 19, 2023 06:59 PM            

Passion is a very convincing motivator.

This is why I have emphasised to go slowly. There's no point telling people the relationship is doomed, dangerous, or anything else tricky that might be there, because people don't listen, or they want the fairytale. Again, passion is very convincing when you're in it.

Often you'll be abused if you give the tricky stuff in a reading anyhow, lol. Or the chart owner will then solicit new readers, that will give them a positive reading, lol.

The goal sometimes (in life/relationships), is to keep your dignity intact. And to make sure you can prove to yourself that you are able to exercise self-care and responsibility to yourself first, and above all.

This is the synthesised middle-ground.

That's the only chance for a relationships to survive anyway these days. The bottom line is to make sure that you are not disposed of, and your time wasted. This strategy is a win-win - whether a good or bad synastry.

Remember too, all relationships have something tricky.

posted January 20, 2023 03:08 AM            

I think it's important to realise that the dating game for men is like shooting fish in a barrel: they can do anything with women and move on. Especially when women are young and vulnerable as they are hormonal and looking to partner.

This is nothing to do with karma or unfinished energy from the past, btw. LOL.

I am still incredibly disappointed with men. After only a few dates or sentences online they still (at my age) start making sexual allusions very fast. Just pathetic. I just told one recently that he should have a look in the mirror because he's a actually a dirty old man, lol. He's still ranting at me telling me that he's at the gym 6-days - LOL LOL...

Because of my knowledge and awareness, and understanding of what I want - or DON'T want, I can make it clear about what I want (and don't), and find that one who wants the same. Or at least, I will not be lured into a heartbreaking situation for myself.

Recently example (and victory for me): I went out with one guy who I went to school with when I was about 10 years old! He is hot, >6-foot, and fit. He told me that catching up with me was the highlight of his year. He stared wondrously at me all night and told me too, when we were out, that he was in love with me, lol.

I've noticed his interest wane fast over time (2 months), as he's worked out that he won't lure me into the sack. Anyone would think this guy is super successful, decent, and a nice guy. So, what I'm saying is, even the "nice" ones will lie. And they don't care about shattering your hopes and dreams (or innocent childhood memories).

Not meaning to rant about me. Genuinely sharing to bring more knowledge and insights : )

posted January 20, 2023 03:52 AM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by LilyIris07:
I totally understand, I also wonder because we both have Chiron opposite Saturn in our charts - so I thinking if that would help us deal with that energy. Nevertheless, is there anything good about this chart LOL?

---

posted January 20, 2023 03:57 AM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by Stoika7:
Yes I have seen your natals. The Saturn/Chiron opposition is heavy in both charts and they show deep issues. This is the wound you share like a mirror, its your common ground that gives intensity to your exchanges and deeply attracts each other subconsciously. But then, the fact you have it your natals doesnt necessarily mean it will play out positively in the dynamics of the relationship. It depends on many things. For instance, if you have jupiter, neptune and the nodes in good aspect to chiron/saturn or other supporting placements in the composite, it could suggest that you may share the wound in an healing way for both. In your composite there are supporting aspects for "healing", but to me they look temporary compared to the challenges of the Saturn/Pluto/Chiron t-square along with Neptune quincux Chiron and opposite mercury which may manifest on the short or on the long terms (depending on transits, and other elements in the actual context...)
The positive aspect of immediate intimacy, affection and introspective/healing support are potentially there, even though those challenging aspects look overcoming in my opinion... But nothing is set in stone in astrology... the actual context, the self awareness of the people involved, the depth of feelins involved, their level of empathy, and the actual timing/situation always make a difference. I personally have handled a composite saturn/pluto/chiron square with my husband for twenty years, lol, but cant deny it is kind of tough and arised issues which will unlikely be solved (but you can learn patience, self control and how to make peace with yourself, as long as it is worth it).

---

posted January 20, 2023 04:17 AM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by LilyIris07:
I get that but then I suppose you guys had other supporting elements for you guys to be together for so long? I mean if things are going to end in Feb, I guess that’s the short term ness. Are there no positive transits after that?

---

Yes, the supporting element was my longtime health issue/disabiliy that didnt allow us to get separated :-)
Then, yes, we have good Jupiter/Moon aspects showing mutual support, and a love stellium (Sun, Venus, Mercury)... but despite all of that, the t-square made things quite heavy and more more "doomed" between us on the emotional/closeness plane, as the core issues and conflicts between us created great coldness...
We cant state 100% that things will end or end in february, but transits dont look much favourable around this time... transiting saturn square comp pluto, tr. Uranus square comp Saturn and tr Saturn opposite Mars are very heavy energies to handle all together and usually point to difficulties in keeping the relationship going or taking off as they are generally aspects about separation or impossibility to overcome a challenge, even though it may just be a temporary impossibility. Saturn/Pluto usually occurs when we need to deeply change somwthing that is not serving well anymore, but it can bring "victory" or achievements once you accept the "revolution"... Saturn/Mars in this picture is more concerning cause in my experience one of the two usually gives up, its very frustrating aspect... I think it would be better to re-look at transits in february based on the actual context and developments....