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Randall
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posted August 27, 2011 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sometimes, I view myself, and sometimes I am the one viewing (as in real life).

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posted August 27, 2011 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MAKLHOUF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LEXX: People, especially witches have assumed animal form over centuries. My body is my animal.
Delos; I think that people die because they spend all their lives trying to avoid certain truths, and finally they don't have the energy to run away from the truth any more. Death is the only escape route left to them.

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posted August 28, 2011 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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LEXX: People, especially witches have assumed animal form over centuries. My body is my animal............................

Respectfully I must disagree.The truth is much simpler and does not take away from the "animal experience".
They could overlay the animal, and in essence be one with the animal, in a kind of OBE, whilst their human body was in an inert state.
And others would understand when the animal appeared that the witch or mystic was "driving the boat" so to speak not the animal.
Such a similar thing was portrayed in the movie "Powder".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04qBqCJlbC0

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posted August 28, 2011 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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LEXX: People, especially witches have assumed animal form over centuries. My body is my animal............................

Respectfully I must disagree.The truth is much simpler and does not take away from the "animal experience".
They could overlay the animal, and in essence be one with the animal, in a kind of OBE, whilst their human body was in an inert state.
And others would understand when the animal appeared that the witch or mystic was "driving the boat" so to speak not the animal.
Such a similar thing was portrayed in the movie "Powder".
Even though it was not a voluntary link or overlay, it does illustrate what I believe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04qBqCJlbC0

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posted August 28, 2011 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Powder was a good movie, but it was so sad.

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posted August 29, 2011 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's been years since I saw it, but one part is burned into my brain...when he touched the dying deer and the hunter.

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posted September 09, 2011 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MAKLHOUF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Regarding evidence. there is evidence on both sides of the debate, only neither side will listen to the other But it seems that there is much less evidence for evolution than people suppose.

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posted September 09, 2011 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MAKLHOUF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry I seem to have got the wrong thread. I was replying to what Randall said after I commented on post by nephys on evolution.

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posted September 10, 2011 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are huge gaps in the evidence, but still lots of it. For example, vestigial organs (like the bones for legs in whales).

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posted September 10, 2011 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MAKLHOUF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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There are huge gaps in the evidence, but still lots of it. For example, vestigial organs (like the bones for legs in whales).


Yes, and, of course, we all have a tailbone. Some people are born with tails. There is definitely a connection but it may not be exactly as the evolutionists have it.

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posted September 12, 2011 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
True. It is interesting to see the different forms a human fetus takes.

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posted September 13, 2011 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It looks reptilian at times.

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posted September 16, 2011 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MAKLHOUF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Question for evolutionists:
Men have vestigial nipples and women have a vestigial penis, the clitoris. Who evolved from whom?

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posted September 16, 2011 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MAKLHOUF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Question for evolutionists:
Men have vestigial nipples and women have a vestigial penis, the clitoris. Who evolved from whom?

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posted December 27, 2011 07:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am Christian.

I very strongly do NOT believe at all in reincarnation, though I mean no disrespect towards those that do. I do believe and accept the necessity (and yes, even the beauty) of death. However, I do believe in an afterlife and in divine judgment. I believe that there is a God, and that this God is merciful, kind, loving, and compassionate.

Death makes things real. Death ups the stakes. Knowing that time is limited gives motivation to do one's best: you can't just procrastinate. Death gives meaning and purpose.

I believe that life is phase one, and death is phase two. I believe that each of us has a soul that continues on into the afterlife. Where that soul ends up is determined by one's conduct in life and by divine judgment.

I also don't believe that death has to be this big, awful, scary, horrible thing. Death can be beautiful and meaningful. Death brings us face-to-face with the divine.

I wouldn't want to go on living on an earthly plane forever, continuing to rot away and degenerate.

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posted December 27, 2011 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MAKLHOUF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How do you reconcile your interest in LL with your Christian beliefs?

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posted January 06, 2012 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delos     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Reincarnation was in the bible before but taken away. If you take a course in Christianity at college, this is something that is part of the course material.

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posted January 06, 2012 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Because some people don't feel at home here on this violent discordant planet. To have to be immortal in this flesh and bone body bag would be too much to bear for me.

I also think we are meant to come here, experience and move on. This is a temporal, fleeting place, not meant for permenance. There are things we take with us or get to keep, but they are not physical.

anyway, just another traveller's opinion.

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posted January 06, 2012 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, Regardes, I really love what you wrote and I agree.

This place is not the end and definitely not the Ultimate. Nor is human physical form, IMO.

I am also fascinated by death and the afterlife - that stage of life that we will all eventually deal with and how best to make the transition and traverse other realms and I can't wait! lol :P

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posted January 06, 2012 11:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've seen all there is to see here and ready for the next, greater episode!!

take me now! lol j/k ......sort of.....haha

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posted January 07, 2012 05:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delos     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I really understand how one can have the feeling of not wanting to stay on this earth forever, but after all how we experience our life is completely in the mind. one can change the reality by changing the mind. I do not think dying will change things, as you take yourself with you when you leave. just because you move to another another country or change the apartment for example does not change the fact that one is deeply unhappy on a soul level. It can make things easier maybe ( or more difficult ) by seeing things from another perspective, but the real problem is still there... Incarnation can also occur on other planets I think.

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posted January 07, 2012 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Delos, i agree about incarnation on other planets. Also about taking your soul/mind with you. It's not that I'm deeply unhappy inside, more I don't like or am deeply unhappy with what goes on in this world. I've personally seen alot of ugliness and not the kind of ugliness that you can just change your perspective on and it's different. I mean real violence that will change a person's outlook forever. I cannot "change the reality, by simply changing my mind". I can't read the news anymore either. Extremely disturbing things going on...

just my opinion and hard to explain quickly in a thread.

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posted January 07, 2012 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for raya_of_light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Reincarnation was in the bible before but taken away. If you take a course in Christianity at college, this is something that is part of the course material.

And the Council of Nicea systematically removed references to reincarnation in order to feed the masses the one life deal so folks can be fearful of damnation and seek guidance from the church to save their souls. If reincarnation was taught, how would the church keep the masses in line? Why did the Dead Sea Scroll and Nag Hammadi kept in secret protection until now? And why the Book of St. Thomas differ in it's philosophy from the rest of the bible? And why was the letter correspondence between "colleagues" or friends taken as Gospel from God when it was written by men for men? And why the bible continually change it's phrasing or omitted totally all together--check the bible published in 1920 St James version..or whatever version and compare it to today's version...not the same bible. I find the contradiction highly intriguing. I always question the motives of any religious sect what their intention and whatever they disseminate if it is for the best interest of all or the best interest of a few.

We release our body from the physical because we are no longer able to process or grow from the situation anymore and have to go back to renew our energy in order to deal with the next life when we come back. There is evident that during the bible time that a lot of the folks live up to 900 years old and more. Personally, I prefer to mine the Akashic record to retrieve what I learned in previous lives so I can do my work here on Earth to help uplift it. I've seen a lot of disturbing things and lived a very traumatic life and at one point suicidal because I felt like I didn't have any purpose in life. The Universe has a funny way of answering my anger and led me to a book on Love--love the most powerful energy in the world. If more and more folks embody the energy of love, the faster the Aquarian age comes. My understanding is if one doesn't have to go through the amnesia each time, the faster humanity progress.

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posted January 07, 2012 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delos     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Love what you just wrote Raya...

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posted January 07, 2012 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delos     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
T I see what you mean. The thing that it is all in the mind, just isn't so I guess. I am still a little naive I guess. This world can look very horrible but there's also a lot of beauty. I can understand that if one has been through very painful experiences here, it is not so tempting to stay here forever...

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