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Topic: Why do people die?
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Delos
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posted July 23, 2011 05:43 PM
  
I believe like Linda that all deaths are suicides, made consciously or unconsciously, by the mind but always consciously decided by the spirit or soul. The reason we are here on earth is to evolve and reach enlightenment. If the soul feels that it cannot get further in its previous incarnation it decides to leave that body and life to get into another body, life, situation, personality etc for its best evolution. The key to reaching physical immortality is to constantly evolve and be flexible, so that does not have to happen.Agree or disagree? IP: Logged |
emitres
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posted July 24, 2011 12:34 AM
mostly agree...  ------------------
" Some define good as that which preserves, and evil as that which destroys; but destruction can be cleansing and purifying, for there is such a thing in both men and races as spiritual constipation, which comes from too much preservation of the status quo." ( Dion Fortune ) IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted July 25, 2011 07:04 AM
We have more conrol over that than we tend to believe.------------------
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Randall
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posted August 19, 2011 01:59 PM
Mostly agree.IP: Logged |
LEXX
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posted August 20, 2011 12:18 PM
The need for physical immortality may not be needed if one can overcome the amnesia and remember their past lives.
See too;
there are other factors here to consider.
How can you live on non Earthan like worlds and discover and learn more whilst inhabiting a human bio form?
I rather like the idea of being many different species of sapient beings.
Eventually our sun will destroy our physical bodies, if we stay here, or environment will change and our bio forms will go extinct.
It is just the nature of things.
I feel I have been incarnated into many non human sapient life forms and not all bipedal.
At this time I meditate muchly on returning to resulating so that I can choose at will to be energy or corporeal, alternating as desired.
Resulation eliminates need for physical death yet allows time share on planetary resources. One can morph into any compatible physical form needed to live in any atmosphere or environment also.
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~The present time is theirs, but the future is mine.~Никола Тесла
~"You have to be willing to give up the life you've planned for in order to live the life that's waiting for you." ~Joseph Campbell
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abcd efg
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posted August 20, 2011 01:14 PM
LEXX  I want change. Why stick to only one form when we have such a vast choice? Why only white shirt? I want blue, green, orange, yellow  My moon conj jup & uranus is talking. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted August 20, 2011 03:34 PM
Once the Age of Capricorn gets here, we will likely master space travel and either re-seed another planet, reignite our sun, or go to an alternate dimensional earth in a younger solar system. I feel humanity will always exist. ------------------
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Voix_de_la_Mer
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posted August 21, 2011 07:22 AM
I agree for the most part.I think the concept of 'mind over matter' is key. IP: Logged |
MAKLHOUF
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posted August 22, 2011 02:24 PM
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Originally posted by LEXX:
I feel I have been incarnated into many non human sapient life forms and not all bipedal.
One can morph into any physical form needed to live in any atmosphere or environment also.
I like to explore my animal self. Can you explain resulating?IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted August 23, 2011 10:29 AM
Resulating?------------------
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LEXX
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posted August 23, 2011 01:13 PM
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Originally posted by abcd efg:
LEXX I want change. Why stick to only one form when we have such a vast choice? Why only white shirt? I want blue, green, orange, yellow My moon conj jup & uranus is talking.
Indeed!  ------------------
~I remember, therefore I am immortal~LEXX
~The present time is theirs, but the future is mine.~Никола Тесла
~"You have to be willing to give up the life you've planned for in order to live the life that's waiting for you." ~Joseph Campbell
The curious paradox is that when I accept myself just as I am, then I can change."
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LEXX
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posted August 23, 2011 01:15 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
Once the Age of Capricorn gets here, we will likely master space travel and either re-seed another planet, reignite our sun, or go to an alternate dimensional earth in a younger solar system. I feel humanity will always exist.
But not necessarily in the bio form we now recognize as human.
Children born in higher and lower gravity, folks living in such as they grow up;
well in time the human body will change.IP: Logged |
LEXX
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posted August 23, 2011 01:17 PM
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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
I agree for the most part.I think the concept of 'mind over matter' is key.
That is the simple reasoning but I feel there is a logical yet undiscovered actual scientific process, not merely thought.IP: Logged |
LEXX
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posted August 23, 2011 01:22 PM
quote:
Originally posted by LEXX:
I feel I have been incarnated into many non human sapient life forms and not all bipedal.
One can morph into any compatible physical form needed to live in any atmosphere or environment also.
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Originally posted by MAKLHOUF:
I like to explore my animal self. Can you explain resulating?
I have found no proof yet of humans having an actual physical animal self in respect to ever being or having ability to be a Earthan animal form. The form must have sapience compatible physiology of the brain mass and circuitry to proper house a human sapient soul.
Oh of course one can mind link with an animal, feel and understand it, but become one, no, not Earthan nor Alien non sapient capable forms.
Resulating.....
will explain in my reply to Randall.
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~I remember, therefore I am immortal~LEXX
~The present time is theirs, but the future is mine.~Никола Тесла
~"You have to be willing to give up the life you've planned for in order to live the life that's waiting for you." ~Joseph Campbell
The curious paradox is that when I accept myself just as I am, then I can change."
~ Carl Rogers
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LEXX
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posted August 23, 2011 01:37 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
Resulating?
Resulation.
To choose to be physical bodied or energy bodied.
To be able to alternate at will betwixt the two.
This involves several factors.
Regenerating/reassembling in cases of fatal physical damage. One pulls from the energy all around them to in essence do a kind of replication of damaged parts, or to resulate, become pure energy, then like in the science fiction stories, can use the energy mass of the dead/damaged physical form to restore their physical form much like using a transporter to use the previous whole pattern as the template to repair, regenerate or out and out simple replace the damaged body.
In the case of a non damaged physical form, one could choose to be physical or energy as required or by choice.
Imagine a time of lets say, an ice age, or famine conditions. Folks could choose the energy form until the planet recovered.
Death would have no more meaning as long as the physical pattern was saved/remembered,or stored for such possible physical death/damage.
Perhaps one would still be as they are at the time of any such physical to energy alternations, and only grow to adulthood whilst in physical form. Then once in adulthood, aging would cease as regeneration was applied.
When I say I have lived physically in non human non bipedal body forms, I do NOT mean animal but sapient other species not found here on Earth any longer, and or were/are found on alien worlds.
I do not have all the answers, just my crazy theories and strange memories I cannot of course prove.
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~I remember, therefore I am immortal~LEXX
~The present time is theirs, but the future is mine.~Никола Тесла
~"You have to be willing to give up the life you've planned for in order to live the life that's waiting for you." ~Joseph Campbell
The curious paradox is that when I accept myself just as I am, then I can change."
~ Carl Rogers
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Voix_de_la_Mer
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posted August 23, 2011 03:29 PM
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Originally posted by LEXX:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
[b]I agree for the most part.I think the concept of 'mind over matter' is key.
That is the simple reasoning but I feel there is a logical yet undiscovered actual scientific process, not merely thought.[/B][/QUOTE] Yes, Deepak Chopra alluded to some kind of theory of agelessness in his book Ageless Body, Timeless Mind. I remember it making an impression on me at the time, as I felt it quite novel, and it had a message of hope, but on second reading it no longer resonated with me, and now I can't even remember what his theory was. Perhaps I should read it again - I do this with books, my connection with them varies over the years. You might find it interesting if you haven't read it. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted August 24, 2011 07:50 AM
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LEXX
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posted August 24, 2011 07:57 AM
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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
I agree for the most part.I think the concept of 'mind over matter' is key.
quote:
Originally posted by LEXX:
That is the simple reasoning but I feel there is a logical yet undiscovered actual scientific process, not merely thought.
quote:
Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
Yes, Deepak Chopra alluded to some kind of theory of agelessness in his book Ageless Body, Timeless Mind. I remember it making an impression on me at the time, as I felt it quite novel, and it had a message of hope, but on second reading it no longer resonated with me, and now I can't even remember what his theory was. Perhaps I should read it again - I do this with books, my connection with them varies over the years.You might find it interesting if you haven't read it.
I shall give it a look asap.
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~I remember, therefore I am immortal~LEXX
~The present time is theirs, but the future is mine.~Никола Тесла
~"You have to be willing to give up the life you've planned for in order to live the life that's waiting for you." ~Joseph Campbell
The curious paradox is that when I accept myself just as I am, then I can change."
~ Carl Rogers
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Randall
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posted August 25, 2011 10:25 AM
That's a great book.------------------
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Delos
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posted August 25, 2011 12:35 PM
Yes!!! Chopra is great in general!!! According to Chopra our consciousness will not be so much different after we die. I was pondering on what happens after we die, and how one´s awareness is after death. Then it hit me that it probably is similar to how it is when we dream. In dreams we know that we are we, but we are more like just consciousness. I never see myself in my dreams, which means that the real me doesn´t have any shape or form. I only see other people which are a projection of my reality, and sometimes I can more get a feeling of someone in a dream without really seeing them, and sometimes they look different. I try to explain to people that the one they really are isn´t the look they have or their education etc, just a role they play in this life, and many people can´t understand this. They then tell me that they would be nothing, but in dreams we feel more real than ever. i found it really hard to explain my thoughts, but I hope you´ll get me. IP: Logged |
Delos
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posted August 25, 2011 12:39 PM
I´m really trying to remember how it was last time I died as I´m not planning on doing it again IP: Logged |
LEXX
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posted August 25, 2011 12:50 PM
Delos
Just because you do not see yourself does not mean you are without form or perception of form.
Why would you see yourself in a dream?
In waking state you do not see yourself.  ------------------
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~The present time is theirs, but the future is mine.~Никола Тесла
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LEXX
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posted August 25, 2011 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by Delos:
I´m really trying to remember how it was last time I died as I´m not planning on doing it again
Are you absolutely sure you want to go there?
Please read this thread.
Thank you! http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/004373.html ------------------
~I remember, therefore I am immortal~LEXX
~The present time is theirs, but the future is mine.~Никола Тесла
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Delos
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posted August 25, 2011 05:21 PM
Lexx thanks for the link. i will look through it. You re right that we dont see ourselves full view in the waking state, but i m very aware of myself as me and I do see my body, and in dreams I never do. When I m day dreaming I always imagine myself as in I am in my waking life, but again in dreams I m just consciousness. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted August 26, 2011 01:49 PM
I think I've dreamt both ways.------------------
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