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MAKLHOUF
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posted January 27, 2012 12:33 PM
  
Yes, password only, it must eventually come to that.
I don't want proof , myself, I'm a believer. I need a way to live on this dangerous bridge.------------------
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Randall
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posted January 28, 2012 02:27 PM
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"Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
MAKLHOUF
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posted February 03, 2012 01:25 PM
It is important not to hate the hateful world because strong emotion attaches you to its object. That is why all wise teachers emphasize transcendence.------------------
To live outside the law you must be honest. Bob Dylan IP: Logged |
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posted February 03, 2012 01:37 PM
Although this thread is about suicide, you still might find this info interesting, Mak. 
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum13/HTML/000686.html especially the vid at the end. IP: Logged |
MAKLHOUF
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posted February 06, 2012 07:04 AM
wow, I had no idea there had been so much work on this subject!
Most of the descriptions of the afterlife seem like hell to me. I am not a party person and would not want to meet a lot of friends and family at a passing over welcome bash.
A person who suicided would probably think it was hell if their death turned out not to be the end of anything.
In the past a person who was saved from suicide could then be put on trial for self murder and hanged. what is the difference between self murder and other murder? Am I at liberty to decide that another person's life is not worth living and therefore end it? Why should I be able to do this with my "own"life?------------------
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posted February 06, 2012 09:52 AM
Yeah, and the other aspect of "hell" would be experiencing all the pain you caused others. Apparently everyone goes through this and not just suicides and it's not so much for punishment, but for a learning experience.I also would not like a big bash with all the people who i ever cared about meeting me. That does not seem appealing to me. I have a feeling it doesnt have to be that way for everyone. If that's something that would make one uncomfortable, then I don't see the sense in it happening. There are a few people I wouldnt mind seeing again, but still, don't feel a strong NEED to. I'd be fine if I didnt see them again either and just know that they were where they were supposed to be in the grand scheme of things. I did have an experience in the dream state once where I know I was on 'the other side' (too long to go into detail) and I was surrounded by six "family members" - but they were not anyone I knew in this life. I felt the most intense love, peace and calmness from them. I was crying and saying how hard everything had been and fell to my knees sobbing on the floor and they just knew me, they were proud of me, understood and loved me, more than ive ever experienced here. I do, now, believe they were my Guides and part of some sort of soul family of mine. Something like that would be nice again. I'd rather not have a 'big bash'. I don't know anyone from earth that I'd have a strong urgency to see or meet up with again anyway. So I don't think I will have to have that when I cross over. I don't think something like that is forced upon us and as it's said; we all have unique experiences to us. I also read that one doesnt HAVE to meet with anyone on the other side. A parent, say, that was abusive. You arent required to meet with them if you don't want to or if it wouldnt be of benefit to your soul growth. Someone could request to meet with you, but you could decline. IP: Logged |
MAKLHOUF
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posted February 06, 2012 01:38 PM
I hope it is the same way with visitations from the dead. If I wouldn't invite a person to my house when they were living, I don't see why I should have to entertain them when they are dead. but I don't know if I control that.------------------
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Randall
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posted February 07, 2012 10:18 AM
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"Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
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posted February 07, 2012 12:27 PM
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Originally posted by MAKLHOUF:
I hope it is the same way with visitations from the dead. If I wouldn't invite a person to my house when they were living, I don't see why I should have to entertain them when they are dead. but I don't know if I control that.
 that's brilliant... may i share that with non-LL folks? ------------------
" Some define good as that which preserves, and evil as that which destroys; but destruction can be cleansing and purifying, for there is such a thing in both men and races as spiritual constipation, which comes from too much preservation of the status quo." ( Dion Fortune ) IP: Logged |
MAKLHOUF
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posted February 08, 2012 01:17 PM
By all means share!
The books quoted by T reminded me of the mysterious world of dreaming. I often socialise with dead people in dreams, but without remebering that they are dead.------------------
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SunChild
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posted February 14, 2012 03:28 PM
Lexx you've probably forgotten about this thread but I wanted you to take a look at something whenever you end up seeing it.
It's open for discussion. I will post a photo to see what vibe you gain off it. I don't need to know whether she was my previous incarnation because I already know that part, I just was wondering what your honest vibe is. (funny how it contradicts the teachings you go male-female-male interchangeably... I incarnated as a woman twice and only a short span in between incarnations which is also a contradiction to theosophical teachings of 600 earth-years on average, however I did remember reading there are exceptions and time as we know it, is of course illusory.) I have often found that real life spiritual experiences often contradict supposed teachings on the subject. Thought I'd just throw that in there.... do you have experiences that have proven this Lexx? Just on a funny synchronicity side note, I am just uploading the photo to tinypic.com and the Captcha came up and it said "have an inkling"....
thought that was pretty cool considering what I am uploading and all.... 
originial: 
 We are obviously not looking at a lookalike, only matches in energy, spirit and soul.
If there is a match it can often appear as though two people look alike... I can tell this in other people's photos however this photo is very close to home so it would be good for an outsider to give their opinion too.
Anyone can give their honest opinion.
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SunChild
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posted February 14, 2012 03:49 PM
Later in life:
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Delos
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posted February 15, 2012 06:12 PM
This is creepy! This woman resembles so much of you, crazy!I've never met you and don't know you but it's crazy how your vibrations from the photos are the same. And the eyes, which are the windows of the soul. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted February 16, 2012 01:07 PM
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posted February 17, 2012 12:36 PM
Reminds me of some of the vampire movies where the lead vamp meets a girl who looks like a love of his from many years ago.IP: Logged |
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posted February 17, 2012 08:15 PM
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Originally posted by MAKLHOUF:
I hope it is the same way with visitations from the dead. If I wouldn't invite a person to my house when they were living, I don't see why I should have to entertain them when they are dead. but I don't know if I control that.
As far as I know, you can control that. As is said, to everything a season, reason or lifetime. Just because someone seemed important at one point in your life (relative, parent, friend) does not mean they are forever or have to be in the afterlife. Sometimes they are just there for a lesson, or a vehicle, and you can move on and not have to deal with them again. The karma has been resolved if youve learned what you needed to, then no need to "go back" there, with anyone. This makes sense to me. IP: Logged |
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posted February 17, 2012 08:17 PM
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Originally posted by MAKLHOUF:
By all means share!
The books quoted by T reminded me of the mysterious world of dreaming. I often socialise with dead people in dreams, but without remebering that they are dead.
Same here. Keep meeting certain people there lately. Dreams intertwine with lower levels of the astral realms - and higher levels sometimes too.
We get work done there too.
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posted February 17, 2012 08:31 PM
You take your knowledge and mind with you, so learn all you can here to prepare for a better transition and new life w/o physical body. example - people who believe strongly in Jesus, often see him when they cross over (as reported by people who've had NDE's). Much of what happens in the initial stages of being born into the next plane, depends on where your head is at, and what you believe in, in the present conscious earth life. This is what my research is turning up anyway. IP: Logged |
MAKLHOUF
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posted February 18, 2012 12:37 PM
Your research is turning up some very interesting and useful stuff------------------
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posted February 19, 2012 01:39 PM
I'm looking forward to not having a body to take care of, hair to brush knots out of, bills to pay, clocks to check, putting a roof over my head etc.  lol IP: Logged |
SunChild
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posted February 19, 2012 05:54 PM
Steiner goes into details about that T in life between death and rebirth lectures. In what manner we take our knowledge and mind. I believe we do to. What components of us that remain 'us' and what is transformed. Very interesting read, the most interesting part is when you feel a sense you've known this before.  IP: Logged |
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posted February 19, 2012 09:31 PM
Thanks  I"m going to look into it because everything I am reading & learning, especially from older texts (and little old ladies - one in particular), is saying the same thing & yes, it resonates.  Link up the Steiner here, if you have some good ones that are hosted online somewhere. Thx. IP: Logged |
SunChild
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posted February 23, 2012 05:19 AM
Sure
http://wn.rsarchive.org/Lectures/LifeBetween/LifBet_index.html IP: Logged |
SunChild
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posted February 23, 2012 05:23 AM
I did flick through different chapters to the parts the resonated the most... A lot of good stuff is in the chapter: journey through the planetery spheres, as you get in the middle of the chapter/chapters, is when one gets flickers of remembering, like similar in reading gooberz and how she pulls you back into a vivid memory from childhood or something, only you are in "spiritland", I think Steiners goal on some chapters is to push buttons to cause this mood and reflection. IP: Logged |
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posted February 24, 2012 07:35 PM
Thank you! I've bookmarked it for future reading IP: Logged |
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