posted October 02, 2004 03:23 PM         

i do hope to read these book soon, as my interest in these events and their meanings has been growing for awhile.

and i am reminded yet again, of similar words of linda's in Gooberz. they are in the form of the conversation between linda and heathcliffe, regarding the coming 'Earth cataclysms' as she puts it...i'll find them and post them later.

i did have a question for you, weaseldad....who are the 'guardians' of whom you speak? why are they withdrawing?

love, Saffron

posted October 02, 2004 04:07 PM         

i just posted a topic in the health and healing forum about shamans.

it's just intriguing that the thought of shamans has occupied my thoughts so strongly the last few days, and then i found some time today to read and respond to this thread.

i've seen it many times, and even scrolled through it once or twice, but almost everything i found here today sounded new, like it was the first time i'd read it.

i'm looking for a shaman to help me with soul healing. perhaps this is part of my answer, to look deeper into the mary summer rain books.

also, weeseldad, i like the tony hillerman books tremendously. he's not a native american, but has spent much time with them in new mexico and arizona, i think. pbs has some very good films adapted from his novels.

and as juniper has stated, it is true that one doesn't have to be of native american descent to have the soul of one....but i have some cherokee lineage too.

one of the mary summer rain books i've found that i'd like to read is 'ancient echoes: the anasazi book of chants'. here are some of the songs from the book:

calling nature chant
ghost prayer
all tribes prayer
last journey chant
broken heart chant
sacred mesa song
warm wind dance chant
man time chant
woman time chant
sacred shield prayer
heart knowing chant
bread making song
open ear prayer
remembering way chant
medicine power prayer
sage hanging prayer
light calling dance chant
spirit journey prayer
give-away dance song
star power chant
big brother prayer
blanket dance song
moccasin making prayer
many suns prayer
child sleep song
rising smoke prayer
loving way prayer
snow moon song
bad heart prayer
twilight chant
new moon dance chant
full moon prayer

and there are more....

posted October 02, 2004 04:15 PM         

sorry i've misspelled your name a few times!

i'm going in search of 'phoenix rising' right now.....

posted October 02, 2004 08:53 PM         

I love the Anasazi Chants. On your list I particularly love : star power chant and light calling dance chant.

posted October 02, 2004 11:34 PM         

Weeping sky
We bring the sun
To make you glad
And fill you with the day.

Quiet tree
We have the wind
To make you dance
And fill you with our play.

And you shall be glad
And you shall dance
And you shall come
To hear our song
And learn its tune
Before it fades away.

1970 Prophet Music, Inc.
I think that there is nothing more to say today. I feel good now.

posted October 04, 2004 11:09 PM         

Arise and Awake

Are your Children sleeping?

Fruit of my Gift

Take no more

Than you will give.

Give what you take!

All else matters not.

You will Awake.

posted October 07, 2004 11:29 PM         

Blessings to the those in the areas of your Loving concern.

posted October 09, 2004 02:07 AM         

i need some of your insight and compassion. you have spoken of our world becoming more dangerous, especially when driving (speaking of driving....). well, i experience that every day. i try to be a kind and courteous driver in all respects. i even stopped to help a lady on the side of the highway who had a flat tire recently. i let people go in front of me if they're trying to enter a long line of traffic....etc.

but my daily experience is that of people being deliberately antagonistic and unkind driving. and it's dangerous....people constantly pull out in front of me so that i have to slam on the brakes....and look right at me while doing so. today a truck pulling a long low trailer turned right in front of me and had i not been being extra cautious and slow, i would have slammed into his trailer, because the car in the closer lane he turned in front of blocked the view of the trailer.

this happens constantly. and methodically it seems. i know this isn't all coincidence. i've learned to be extra careful of cars zooming behind me just as i'm about to back out, of cars travelling directly in my blind spot, of cars turning sharply in front of me at intersections, of cars blocking me on the highway so that i have to drive at a reduced speed. there's much more than this too. and this happens every time i drive. i suppose the reasons for this are not necessary to discuss here. i don't really even understand them. anyway, i live in an area where the traffic is not too heavy; it's fairly rural in most places -- even the larger town i visit weekly doesn't have a bad traffic problem, so that isn't a factor.

and i have been driving many, many years in large cities and highways, all over the country. i never have experienced anything like this.

and well, i am sorry to go on this way....but...perhaps you can give me some wise words.

this has been happening quite a while, so i try to make the best of it. and i have had quite a few episodes like yours, of slowing down for a reason, thus narrowly avoiding something traumatic. and i have felt blessed at these times.

but today i had many places to go, and this driving madness seemed more intense than usual. i generally try to be smiling and forgiving and very cautious and, yes, conscious of my breathing....

but what i end up doing is ignoring the reality of all this meanness.....and then it gets under my skin, and it just really hurts! people just seem so incredibly mean! but i tend to ignore it, but today it would not be ignored.

first, i snarled under my breath at a person who pulled in front of me for no reason, not a lot of traffic or anything. i then apologized out loud and repeated "cancel" numerous times (something linda goodman recommends). then later, after several more worse incidences, a truck jerked in front of me so unexpectedly and rapidly that i immediately fired off an inappropriate gesture in much anger. he looked over at me and called me a number of insulting names as traffic came to a stop. i so rarely let it affect me this way! yet, as we sat there, my anger quickly dissipated and was replaced with remorse....i don't want to treat my fellow humans this way!

i felt sad and disappointed in myself and pulled up beside him, trying to get his attention. honked a little and rolled down my window. he finally looked over and i said i was sorry several times. he rolled down his window, and i said it again, that i had just had a bad day. he just said ok.

and then i realized how much this really does affect me. i just don't want to become so unbearably mean myself, and then i witness myself behaving this way! i started to cry and my 2 year old son begged me not to cry, so i tried to explain to him. that mama contends with this all day and acts as though nothing is wrong. but it is! even though i apologized, i felt so terrible for my behavior.

i suppose i need to acknowledge more how i'm feeling, but i feel that i need to stay positive to deal with this day to day!

any advice? i know this is a long post to wade through, but you seem to practice kindness so consciously and well, even in the face of these escalating events.

a good thing though, i noticed today a truck with some wording on the side that really kept my attention while driving down a long boulevard....it seemed to exude some kind of intensified aura, so to speak, of a kind sort.....i don't recall the wording, but something to the effect of, "we're there for you" or "we protect you" or something of that nature...of course it was an advertisement for some business....then it disappeared.

i thought what an unexpected change, finally to get a good vibe from a fellow driver...then the truck passed me out of nowhere, stopped just ahead of me so that i could see a large sticker on the back.

it said:

COLORADO ROCKY MOUNTAIN HIGH

wow! i had such chills, and immediately recalled your posts here. at that moment i did feel blessed.

so i want to thank you again for all that you contribute here. maybe the guardians are withdrawing, but i think some angels must still be around.

and i have purchased a few msr books...(i found spirit song for $.89 online, but it will take awhile to arrive). i looked also today at a used bookstore, but no luck.

well, i love reading this thread, and if you made it through this post, thank you! it's not necessary to respond; i'd like you to know much i appreciate your words of wisdom and kindness. so much warmth emanates from your posts. like being next to a warm and comforting fire.

thanks for the light...may your path be bright.

posted October 10, 2004 12:26 AM         

i liked your ideas, and i'm sure they will help us in the future.

posted October 10, 2004 12:53 AM         

Maybe it`s not a symptom of the Phoenixs birthing Pains, but a symptom of the Souls Birthing Pain to find joy and peace in God/Dess?

Weeseldad is a shining light of manners, compassion and Service to humanity. Where there is one, there is more Seek and ye shall find. Do not dwell on the apparent shortcommings of life, but find joy in the Experience it will bring you.

posted October 10, 2004 06:36 AM         

i don't wish to dwell on the shortcomings that push themselves into my consciousness every day. as i said in my post, i focus on the positive, and on trying to be kind myself, to the point of ignoring the reality around me. sometimes it seems like ignoring an illness -- the more you don't give it attention, the more it manifests itself -- until it hurts enough to address the issues that are causing it.

i am seeking! it's what brought me to this thread!

posted October 10, 2004 09:30 AM         

**A Teacher was sitting at a crossroads one morning when a young man came up to him and asked whether he could study with him. Yes, for one day, said the Teacher.
Throughout the day, one traveler after another stopped to ask questions about man and life, about the Teaching or to beg for help – or just to pay respects. But the Teacher merely sat in an attitude of contemplation, his head on his knee, and he made no answer at all.

One by one, the people went away. Towards evening a poor man with a heavy bundle approached the pair and asked the way to the nearest town. The Teacher immediately stood up, took the man’s burden on his own shoulders and conducted him a part of the way along the right road.

Then he returned to the crossroads. The young disciple asked Was that man, miserable peasant though he looked, really a saint in disguise, one of the secret wanderers of high rank? The Teacher sighed and said: He was the only person whom we have seen today who really sought the object, which he claimed to want.

posted October 10, 2004 11:20 AM         

here's one from him:

quote:

---

an answer of Jesus

Some Israelites reviled Jesus one day as he was walking through their part of town. But he answered by repeating prayers in their name.
Someone said to him: 'You prayed for these men, did you not feel incensed against them?'
He answered: 'I could spend only of what I had in my purse.'

---

posted October 10, 2004 07:36 PM         

Theres a lovely Teaching story called: Spending That Which is in Your Purse.

It gives beautiful composition to the Christs reply. I will share it with you if you`d like

posted October 16, 2004 04:15 PM         

i would be so pleased to read your story, 'Spending That Which is in Your Purse', if the offer's still available.