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ListensToTrees
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posted September 24, 2007 10:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message

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ListensToTrees
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posted September 24, 2007 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message

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It would be nice to evolve some sort of telethapy of the heart; empathy. A feeling, knowing inside how we are all interconnected. Empathy/ love would be a a law unto itself.

I have been wondering- perhaps we are only 'Free' or have 'Free Will' in as much as we are spiritually awakened. We are like Gods in amnesia. This amnesia is the source of our soul-sickness.

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Mirandee
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posted September 24, 2007 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mirandee     Edit/Delete Message
I have a lot to catch up on in this thread because I have not read it in a few days. So will do it as I read.

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So her taking what I said out of context is fine in your mind?
She quoted my words out of context in her attempts too paint me out as a bigot:...Fayte

No, it not right for Star to take things out of context. Nor is it right for you do that either, Fayte and you did that on this very thread to me in an an attempt to paint me as a hypocrite. Then when I posted the link so that others could read my words and see that I said more than once on the other thread the very thing I said here, you came back and in so many words suggested that I probably edited my posts. Which is plain not true it. It's never right for anyone to twist the words of others or take them out of context and it is no more right for you do that than anyone else, Fayte.

It's never right to attempt to cast doubt on the character and integrity of another person and it is not something an honest person would do.

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So Mirandee...I intentionally pointed out WHY I mentioned the word Christian, yet Solane took it personal, and I suspect even you perhaps, being that she referred to an "us"...(being offended yet again)
even when I explained why I said Christian.
If you both took that as a personal slam, then that is your thoughts not mine. I explained myself in that post quite clearly...Fayte

That's right, Fayte. You only "suspect" that I was offended by what you said regarding Christians. It's another assumption on your part. You've been all over the board of LL making unfounded assumptions regarding me and Star and then accusing us of doing that to you. On the "Support" thread you even talked about me in the third person to HSC telling him what I think, how I feel and what my intentions are as if you could actually know any of that. That amounts to a direct attack in an indirect manner which is also not something an honest person would do. I chose to ignore that.

I was not offended about what you said regarding Christians. However, if I had had the time I would have told you that it is obvious that the man who did what you said was not a " good, Christian." If in fact it actually happened because you didn't offer any evidence to support what you said.

I would have also asked you to post the story you talked about so we could read all of the story and not just the part you presented. When you bring up things like that you should post the news article and let us read all of the story. Otherwise that is taking things out of context because we only have your take on what happened and not the whole story. We cannot make decisions or form opinions without all the information.

If the man actually did this it is very wrong and it is also very wrong of the man's particular church to defend his actions.

I have no idea where the "hate" thing comes from regarding you being hated for your religious views and opinions, Fayte. I assure you that I don't hate you at all much less for your religious views. Neither does Star and she is not even a Christian. I am not that narrow minded about religion or any kind of spirituality of other people and you know that, Fayte. If you don't know that I think you were not listening to a word I said to you in over a year when we were friends. Or you didn't trust me at my words but were drawing other conclusions when I talked to you about those things.

I don't agree with your religious and spiritual views entirely but hey, that's your journey and that is the way I see it when it comes to spirituality or any kind. I don't expect you or anyone else to agree with all my spiritual views either. It's my journey. However, I think we should all respect the spiritual journies of others and be sensitive and respectful to what we say regarding any other people's particular views or chosen religions.

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fayte.m
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From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat. fayte1954@hotmail.com
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posted September 24, 2007 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/008819-3.html
Additionally...you have clearly proven by your post above and virtually calling me a liar while cleverly not actually using the word....something you and Solane are quite adept at doing.....
amongst other things here; you are not painting the true picture of....
Suffice it to say....
You are not ready to do as Solar Justice and I did.
I do not know what is bothering you but it is not me, as much as that is what you want it to appear as for some reason I cannot easily fathom.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/008861.html
entire thread.

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"Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!"
~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
"My body is physically disabled, but I am not my body nor am I its disabilities!"
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fayte.m
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From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat. fayte1954@hotmail.com
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posted September 25, 2007 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message

I see your smile
I know your mind
No words need be said
I understand.


Focused on each other
We listen and we care
Laughter ripples like water
Together, we are.


Others are here, yes,
And we value them, yes,
But a special bond remains,
A line between us two.


Each friendship is special
Each is unique
And so is ours
We know.


And then time begins to roll
and rear it’s ugly head
Change begins
Now a little less than before.

Slowly, surely,
Not knowing why
Faster, stronger, without care
Our world shifts and shimmers and splits.


Shattered shards cascade down
Spurred by angry, lashing words
Contorted faces, stone deaf ears
Outside the whirlwind,
We die inside.


The scars run deep
Jagged clefts in our souls
We have suceeded in hurting
And hurt ourselves.


So you move on
And I remain
We keep on living
Turn our faces apart.


Now I glance across
At you from outside
Shaded eyes dry with tears
New friends, new life.


Laughter, smiling (clenched teeth)
The flippant toss of the head
The enclosure surrounds you
I cannot come near.


From behind my glass window
I know more than those within
I see the hurt in your eyes
I know the pain in your smile
I have been there before - I love you
Why do you pretend?


I hate to see your pain
And I cry inside
Tears deep within my soul
I cannot help you anymore.


What we had once
We can never have again.


The scars run deep,
But I still care.

You were my friend.

http://www.friendship.com.au/poetry/broken/broken3.html#lost

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"Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!"
~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
"My body is physically disabled, but I am not my body nor am I its disabilities!"
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