posted October 18, 2008 07:22 AM         

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Is your progressed sun in Pisces yet? It would be a very interesting change.

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posted October 18, 2008 07:24 AM         

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PA - you know she's going to kill you....

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posted October 18, 2008 07:43 AM         

actually Venus-Mars-opposition is the most passionate aspect there is (apart from the Pluto-connections). And it`s a double - whammy.

Just remember Venus and Mars are natural opposites in the zodiac!
(Libra and Aries are naturally ruled by Venus and Mars, as are Scorpio and Taurus).

Also, this aspect seemed to work for the most passionate couples I can think of: Johnny Depp - Vanessa Paradis, Liz Taylor - richard Burton, Stuart Townsend - Charlize theron.

I actually think it`s preferable to have a square, conjunction or opposition between Venus - Mars, as it provides the tension, necessary for strong sexual attraction.
Other really strong oppositions are Sun and Moon (ask Antonio Banderas and Melanie Griffith, or Richard Burton and Liz Taylor), or Sun and Venus.

I think the difficult oppositions may be more between the masculine planets like Sun-Sun, Mars-Mars, Sun-Mars and of course between personal planets and transpersonal planets or Saturn.
Venus - Pluto is an exception as again they are natural opposites in the zodiac (Taurus and Scorpio).

Also, I agree on the Venus-Saturn-aspect; on the other hand it`s said to be a pretty karmic bond (it worked for my parents).

Also I read (and do agree) that "love ties" prefer the harmonious aspects like conjunction, trine and sextile, while "sex ties" need the friction-causing aspects like conjunction, opposition and square.

posted October 18, 2008 07:45 AM         

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Also I read (and do agree) that "love ties" prefer the harmonious aspects like conjunction, trine and sextile, while "sex ties" need the friction-causing aspects like conjunction, opposition and square.

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posted October 18, 2008 07:47 AM         

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Venus-Mars-opposition is the most passionate aspect there is

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posted October 18, 2008 07:50 AM         

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Mars opposition Venus:

What does it mean to your relationship when your Mars is in opposition to your partner’s Venus? If opposites attract, you are in for some sexual fireworks. Your attraction is undeniable but you have differences that you will need to overcome in the ways you choose to express love and desire to receive your partner’s affection. It can turn into a struggle for dominance as each of you try to convert the other to your way of seeing and doing things. If your romantic partner’s Mars is in opposition to your Venus, you may feel that you always seem to be the giving partner and this may stimulate your urge to have your way. A little creativity is needed and practice taking turns if you want this love to be anything more than a competition.

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From skyviewzone.com.

posted October 18, 2008 07:58 AM         

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Mars trine Pluto:

What does it mean to your relationship when your Mars is trine your partner’s Pluto? There is nothing to hold you back from extremes. Sexual energies between you and your romantic partner are very intense, very absorbing. Whatever you two do, you do with everything you’ve got. You both have the individual assertiveness, desire, willingness to be inspired by challenges and overcome opposition, you could accomplish even more together. If your romantic partner’s Mars is trine your Pluto, you naturally have a source of regenerative energies which create and sustain a intensely possessive sexual union. Power plays come easily and both of you enjoy driving.

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posted October 18, 2008 08:01 AM         

yes I also noticed at least one harsh Saturn-aspect to Sun, Moon, Venus, Mars or NN / SN in most relationships.

Yes, there is a dw
His Venus on 3 Gemini opposes my Mars on 5 Sagittarius
His Mars on 4 Cancer (along with his Eros) opposes my Venus on 6 Capricorn

There is also a dw on Juno-Aphrodite:
his Juno conjuncts my Aphrodite
his Aphrodite opposes my Juno

This is what I found for Aphrodite or Pan-aspects (Pan seems to figure strongly in my fatal attractions, and in this case it is conjunct SN and DSC)

Aphrodite:
Impulsive love and attraction, love inspired by fated events, animosity turning to magnetism, charisma
dynamic drive to mate, & to consummate sexual desire with a specific partner @ certain times. If one has a magnetic or receptive partner, this can be intensly emotonal sex. There is a strong desire to connect with others even if the person is a loner.

posted October 18, 2008 08:01 AM         

Venus CNJ Saturn features strongly in important relationships in my life. My niece, my dad, my best friend. They are all the Saturn.

Bear in mind I have Venus Square Mars. Having Saturn at either end doesn't have to be a bad kind of controlling, it can be the calming kind.

posted October 18, 2008 08:05 AM         

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Me and ol' Bluey Moon have Mars trine Pluto.

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posted October 18, 2008 08:09 AM         

I guess I`m having my very own opinion on those aspects.
I know that other astrologers see that differently. But honestly, we can find at least one contrary interpretation for every aspect.

In my experience the strongest aspects, meaning those who make you pay attention the most, are conjunction, opposition, followed by the square.
Trines and sextiles are nice and soft, but won`t make you feel irresistibly drawn to each other.
You`d have good sexual relation, but something more intense would have to trigger that connection.

Oppositions of course contain an element of tension. They are opposites after all.
And of course there can be always challenges with oppositions, definitely. But I was talking about passion and attraction, not compatibility.

That is the beautiful thing about the conjunction; there you seem to have both, attraction and compatibilty. But it`s only my opinion.

The opposition between Sun and Venus and Venus and Mars in progressed synastry seems to be strongest indicatore of when a really intense and passionate relationship is going to start (according to Westran`s research of over 1000 synastries).

It makes sense to me, as man and woman are natural polarities. Of course witht he opposition you have that polarity twice.
1. through the polar planets Venus an d Mars
2. trhough the polar aspect of opposition

posted October 18, 2008 08:10 AM         

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I actually think it`s preferable to have a square, conjunction or opposition between Venus - Mars, as it provides the tension, necessary for strong sexual attraction.

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This is part of my Grand Cross with mr bm.

His Leo Mars, my Taurus Venus.

I liked him young(ish) and slim, I like him fat and old. He moans a bit about his weight but it doesn't put me off.

I like Russell Crowe with a bit of meat on him, as well, I don't know why he worries about it (or seems to going on interview about how one of his roles messed up his metabolism). He looks fine either way. As long as it isn't a problem for his work.