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	| jane Knowflake
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 |  posted October 23, 2008 06:23 AM     I can't guess Asc's based on appearance, so I'm going to have to do check out some of his tv interviews to get a better sense of him. All in the name of research, of course.
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	| PeaceAngel Knowflake
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 |  posted October 23, 2008 06:23 AM     bm
   quote:Not that it would get far anyway, with his robotic list. It doesn't say much for the art of compromise.
 
 I understand that.  It's like those soulmate threads that irk/amuse me.  There could be someone spectacular in front of them and because they have a square aspect they'd prefer wasn't there or they don't have soulmate/twinflame links or because the person has brown eyes they allow it to change the feelings and the potential.  It's bu11shit, quite frankly.  Too busy looking for something else when something good is right before them - the forest from the trees expression.  It's an excuse for whatever reason.  You do compromise.  You have to.  That perfect person doesn't exist - not really - he'll have flaws - he'll leave the toilet seat up and forget your birthday and buy you totally innapropriate or just outright stupid gifts.  That doesn't mean you can't make it something worthwhile and loving.
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	| PeaceAngel Knowflake
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 |  posted October 23, 2008 06:26 AM     jane
   quote:All in the name of research, of course.
 
 Oh, of course.  I fully understand.    Mr PA is yet to comment on the sudden influx of Colin Farrell rentals.  But then, he'd probably not notice something so overt.  YouTube is a godsend.  IP: Logged | 
	| blue moon Moderator
 Posts: 3649From: U.K
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 |  posted October 23, 2008 06:41 AM     I WANT A TWIN SOUL MATE FLAME LOVE AND I WANT IT NOW.
 Please, I don't want to have to make any sacrifices or give anything from myself, I just want to get.  AND I WANT IT NOW. 
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	| blue moon Moderator
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 |  posted October 23, 2008 06:42 AM     p.s
 my period is due, can you tell?  IP: Logged | 
	| deuxantares Knowflake
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 |  posted October 23, 2008 06:49 AM     Yes BM.
  My PMS means Perpetual Menstrual Syndrome. IP: Logged | 
	| PeaceAngel Knowflake
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 |  posted October 23, 2008 06:55 AM     bm
   quote:I WANT A TWIN SOUL MATE FLAME LOVE AND I WANT IT NOW.
 Please, I don't want to have to make any sacrifices or give anything from myself, I just want to get.
 AND I WANT IT NOW.  
 Okay - give me your list and I'll go find him for you. Umm, how much are you willing to compromise? IP: Logged | 
	| PeaceAngel Knowflake
 Posts: 3474From: Australia
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 |  posted October 23, 2008 07:03 AM     deux
   quote:My PMS means Perpetual Menstrual Syndrome.
 
 
 ROFL.    I must be one of those rare creatures that remains fairly unafflicted by it.  Though, I'm probably the moodiest b1tch from hell and don't know it.  People are probably too afraid to tell me.  It's that Mars in Taurus. IP: Logged | 
	| PeaceAngel Knowflake
 Posts: 3474From: Australia
 Registered: May 2008
 |  posted October 23, 2008 07:06 AM     jane
   quote:Oh gee god! That cake! Some things just aren't meant to be so large.
 But what an insatiable s1ut that cake is, huh? I heard she let everyone at the party have a piece. Hardy har har.
 
 Personally, I would have opted for some pubic hair (face it - how often do you actually get to eat any of those - as opposed to pulling them out - or using them to floss! :laughing  or have gone straight for the clit. 
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	| deuxantares Knowflake
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 |  posted October 23, 2008 07:17 AM     PA
 I noticed the posts have taken a sex-ish turn since the sun entered Scorpio. Have you noticed anything about YOURs?    IP: Logged | 
	| PeaceAngel Knowflake
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 |  posted October 23, 2008 07:18 AM     DD
   quote:Actually it`s the other way round. I want the ultimate security, that I am going to love him and be devoted to him and want to with him and only him forever.
 It`s my feelings I question. That`s why this sort of doubt is pretty painful. If I can`t even trust myself, that I will feel in a year what I am feeling now, makes it kinda difficult to make a decision.
 
 It's still the same predicament - it's an impossible thing to know/answer/expect before a relationship begins.  These are things you deal with along the way.  And then, some people just aren't geared for long-term or permanent relationships at all.  Some people are suited to short ones.  And that's okay too.  People are together for as long as they need to be - one night, one week, one year, one decade, one lifetime.  We come together to learn together. It' easy to make love more complicated than it is.  It's okay to be with more than one person.  It's okay to make those choices.  You have full licence to - that's what human being means - making those choices and taking that path - and those chances.  I'm not saying go around and ****  just anyone - but, give someone a chance.  They may just surprise you.  And, you may just surprise yourself. If you're okay and not starving for love, you're not suffering in any way - it's okay.  But if you, in your personal truth - regardless as to whether you reveal here or to anyone in any way - desire it to your core then you are depriving yourself of something wonderful.  He doesn't have to be Jude Law or the work colleague  - but to accept it - you have to be open to it.  I think you are.  More than you want to be. I think you desire love - greatly - but it's not yourself you fear - it's the chance that if you open your heart, maybe no-one will take it/you - rejection.   You know your commitment.  You just don't know your worthiness or your lovability. IP: Logged | 
	| PeaceAngel Knowflake
 Posts: 3474From: Australia
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 |  posted October 23, 2008 07:22 AM     deux
   quote:PA
 I noticed the posts have taken a sex-ish turn since the sun entered Scorpio. Have you noticed anything about YOURs?
 
 Don't the posts always have a sex-ish turn?    They are just more open.  It's a sign of intimacy between us all. IP: Logged | 
	| deuxantares Knowflake
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 |  posted October 23, 2008 07:27 AM     I have to say that cake is not meant to be eaten with a fork or spoon.
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	| blue moon Moderator
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 |  posted October 23, 2008 07:31 AM     
   I'm learning so much about this guy on this thread ~ and that's good, very good. He's conjunct my North Node. That's a message I can't ignore.  All the discussions about relationships I flick over with a half glance. That's him Square my Mercury and Venus in Taurus.  Sitting in my 3rd house ~ that's him feeling on an alien planet in Unmoved's friendship thread. .. but mabye not, you have to know  where's the line, how far away you are from the chalk. It's different for everyone.  IP: Logged | 
	| deuxantares Knowflake
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 |  posted October 23, 2008 07:34 AM     
 quote:I think you desire love - greatly - but it's not yourself you fear - it's the chance that if you open your heart, maybe no-one will take it/you - rejection. You know your commitment. You just don't know your worthiness or your lovability.
 
   In the other corner are people who are subconsiously afraid to find what they are looking for. They meet someone, and then start looking for flaws, for signs that that person will fail them or hurt them. Then they begin a campaign to run away or push the other person away.  IP: Logged | 
	| blue moon Moderator
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 |  posted October 23, 2008 07:38 AM     
 quote:how much are you willing to compromise?
 
 Everything except my self-respect.  IP: Logged | 
	| darkdreamer Knowflake
 Posts: 3198From: Germany
 Registered: Aug 2006
 |  posted October 23, 2008 08:43 AM     PA,
 like always you have been spot on with your analysis. I actually think I am pretty committed and certainly noone for short affairs. I lack a lot of confidence in regards to relationships, that is for sure, and that may have been the reason I wasn`t really open for many years.
 But I feel like something has changed; but it`s a rather slow change. I can`t make the 180-turn, but I try to be open.
 Oh someone here mentioned a cold attraction, and that made me instantly think of my cold-attraction-guy, which is Julian Sands.I do not find him to be goodlooking or very appealing or something of that kind; he is to me the epitome of coldness, or maybe more of some kind of a void.
 And yet at the same time - he`s like burning ice.
 You know when you touch something really cold, it burns your skin just the same as holding your finger into a flame.
 I remember that the moment I saw him in a film, I was repulsed and fascinated at the same time (not an unusual thing for me I guess. lol), and I was instantly having an image inside my mind.
 A black forest in a frosty november night and a feel of haunting compulsion.
 And at that very moment I also had a poem inside my mind. I didn`t really WORK on it, it just surfaced from the depth of my mind or whatever and was there, as a whole. I`m not sure the  words made sense, but it was the athmosphere of it, the feel, that captured the impression. "And so it begins
 A whisper in the windA murmur in the night
 Unseen eyes burn my skin
 Blazing with unforgiven sin
 Your breath blowing through my veinsMy entrails turn to ice
 Unspoken nightmares
 Unbreakable chains
 And so it begins Sharing your poisening embraceNo spheric music lingers in the air
 No angels sing to my wellfare
 Just hungry howling breaks the haze
 Trapped in your arms I lieBurning with your cold desire
 Every lie of light has passed
 Now that you`ve found me at last
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	| darkdreamer Knowflake
 Posts: 3198From: Germany
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 |  posted October 23, 2008 08:49 AM     When I found that poem again, I remembered another one, that I wrote shortly after.
 Black Rose Blossoming in the midst of nightyou draw me near your gleam
 Driving the thorn into my heart
 you lure my soul into your dream
 Black rolse - your thorns boring into my fleshyour steadfast gaze talking of sin
 Black rose - your thorns so crimson red
 ripping wounds into my skin
 Your darknes burns into my hearteating so deep into my thoughts
 scorching all my lies of fear
 leaving me to greedy glow
 Black rose - your thorns boring into my fleshyour flaming voice raging within
 Black rose - your thorns so crimson red
 ripping wounds beneath my skin
 You opened the door to forgotten blazeLed me to the depth of darker dreams
 Compelled me to feel my long lost rage
 Forced me to taste devouring flames
 Now my veins are like fireardent beneath my skin
 New rush of desire
 compell me to breathe
 Finally arisen
 new pain, new life I seize
 Black rose - your thorns boring into my fleshLife`s pulsating through my veins
 Black rose - your thorns so crimson red
 burn the prison of false shame
 :shudders: It`s really STRANGE to be faced with a younger Self like this. It`s not even 5 years ago that I wrote this, and yet I had completely forgotten about it. NOt to mention that this is almost a bit scary. And what the hell did I try to say? lol
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	| darkdreamer Knowflake
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 |  posted October 23, 2008 08:50 AM     Oh the synastry looks like this
      EDIT: Oh and I found something else, the beginning of a shortstory. "Sean Snayke - I`m sure you know him, even though you may not remember his name. He`s got one of those faces you see, like and then it slips from your memory again.
 It was the same with me, but when I finally noticed him, it seemed to me that he had always been there, starring in so many films I can`t even remember having seen. But interestingly it wasn`t a particular film that made me notice him at last."
    I wrote that some years ago, but it just occured to me how much that describes my "re-discovery" of Sean Bean. lol IP: Logged | 
	| meta_4 Knowflake
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 |  posted October 23, 2008 10:47 AM     
 quote:Oh someone here mentioned a cold attraction, and that made me instantly think of my cold-attraction-guy, which is Julian Sands.
 I do not find him to be goodlooking or very appealing or something of that kind; he is to me the epitome of coldness, or maybe more of some kind of a void.
 And yet at the same time - he`s like burning ice.
 You know when you touch something really cold, it burns your skin just the same as holding your finger into a flame.
 
 Oh my God, DD. This is so freaking weird. I am viciously attracted to Julian Sands. I don't think we're soulmates or anything like that but he ties my guts in knots.  I don't get this!!! PA says Ralph is cold, you say Julian is cold and i say they're both on fire.  I would expect YOU, DD, to at least be irrevocably attracted to him. I thought you were an intensity-junkie? Whatever happened to your Venus square Pluto?? Don't abandon ship now!!! IP: Logged | 
	| meta_4 Knowflake
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 |  posted October 23, 2008 10:56 AM     How can you not be struck dumbfounded by this?
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	| meta_4 Knowflake
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 |  posted October 23, 2008 11:08 AM     DD,
 I looked at your syn with Julian. Your Venus AND Mars are both aspecting his Pluto. No wonder you're drawn to him. However, i think the cold part might be coming from the Sun/Moon opposition between the two of you. Now, the Venus/Chiron conjunction on your Moon might lighten it, but i can understand why you would be taken back at first. PLUS some heavy Saturn. Your Saturn is opp his Sun and inconjunct his Moon. THEN his Saturn is on your NN, Mercury and Sun. Some heavy restriction going on there. Dampens the attraction. IP: Logged | 
	| meta_4 Knowflake
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 |  posted October 23, 2008 11:12 AM     So basically, DD, the dilemma is that you're drawn to him (Venus/Mars-Pluto) but you're turned off by him at the same time (Sun/Moon- Saturn, Saturn-NN/Merc/Sun).
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	| darkdreamer Knowflake
 Posts: 3198From: Germany
 Registered: Aug 2006
 |  posted October 23, 2008 11:14 AM     Meta,
 it`s a different kind of "cold" as PA feels for Rafe, I`m sure. I never said he does nothing to me, Julian, that is.I was absolutely mesmerized by him. But not in the way that you get all warm and fuzzy inside.
 I was feeling like a cold hand was clasping my heart, a hard to explain fear. ´
 I actually can`t watch too many movies with him, at least not in one go. I have several here, I never even watched.
 He just sends shivers down my spine.
 But I am surprised you are into him. He is all AIR, no water. lol Moon in Gemini, MErcury and Mars in SAgittarius, Venus in Aquarius - isn`t it too detached, too mental for you? And I know we have some *interesting* synastric aspects: his Moon in my 7th house opposing my Sun his Mercury and EROS conjunct my Sun and Mercury his Venus and Chiron conjunct my Moon and trine my Karma his Mars conjunct my Mars, ASC, Lust and NN!   his Neptune sextile my Venus his pluto widely trine my Venus and square my mars his SN falls flat onto my asteroid actor, Eros-Psyche-mp and Part of Marriage   his Karma completes a T-square with my Venus and Pluto, because his Karma conjuncts my IC, opposes my Pluto and squares my Venus (Karma-Venus-DW!) His Karma also trines my Mars, Neptune, Lust, NN and ASC his Amor exactly conjuncts my Chiron his Juno exactly conjuncts my SN and also conjuncts my DSC   his Juno trines my Pluto and MC his Sun opposes my Saturn  We actually have what the Magi call a Sexual captivation. There is a mystical triangle of his Juno trine my Pluto (super sexual aspect) and quinkunx my Venus (the STRONGEST sexual aspect according to Magi; but we have the second strongest as well), along with a Saturn-captivation, as his Saturn trines my Chiron.A magi astrologer would say I don`t stand a chance.
  And he or she would advise me to run as far as I can, as he would have the complete control over me added to that irresistible magnetic sexual attraction. Well, I only said what a magi astrologer would say.
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	| darkdreamer Knowflake
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 |  posted October 23, 2008 11:25 AM     I think the aspects to his Saturn may be too wide.
 His Saturn is 9° from my NN and 6°-7° from Sun and Mercury. But on second thought it falls pretty close onto my Venus-Mars-mp on 20° Sagittarius, so it might indeed dampen the attraction.
 But as I said my Eros-Psyche-mp is conjunct his SN. My Mars-Pluto-mp falls flatly onto his NN. I never realised that axis before!But WOW!
   Also there is a strange similiarity between the synastry to him, Jude and Sean.In all three cases there is an exact Eros-Psyche-conjunct in the Dracos:
 Jude`s and Julian`s natal Psyche are exactly conjunct my Draco Eros (and Vertex).Sean`s Draco Psyche is conjunct my natal Eros and Vertex.
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