posted October 19, 2008 06:43 AM         

Synastry with Sean is interesting. Sun opposite Sun. Using your interpretation of balance = a balance of personalities and natures. I suppose it could also signify clashing egoes. Love the Psyche on your IC. Also the Moon in your MC. Too bad we don't have a birth time for him. Neptune conjunct your Venus is nice - adds romantic flavour. HIs mars trines your Venus. I like that - preferable to the female's Mars trining the male Venus. The roles are more natural - man being man, woman being woman.

posted October 19, 2008 06:48 AM         

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Neptune can be indicative of lies and illusions,b ut if you are aware of it, I believe there is a good chance you can avoid this expression.
Same with Pluto, Pluto can be very destructive, especially in people who are living pretty spiritually unconscious.
They tend to underestimate the power of Pluto and then get hit by it.
But if you know it, you can go along with it, and benefit from this planet A LOT.

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Oh yeah! Well said. I suppose a great deal of it has to do with consciousness and also self-honesty. It does irk me sometimes when people dismiss the outer planets simply as generational because they do have a personal impact and place. It's a fine balance - but they are personally significant. When I look at a chart the first thing I look for is NN then I look at the outer planets. Sometimes I forget to look at Sun and Moon as silly as that sounds. I was looking at Guy Ritchie's chart for ages the other night and came out of the page and realised knew a lot of his chart in that moment - because I forget them 2 seconds later - but I still didn't know his Sun sign! LOL. I do that a lot! In synastry, I personally believe the nodes to be the most significant placement. No matter what type of chart I'm looking at - it's the first thing - and all the aspects.

posted October 19, 2008 06:51 AM         

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And quirks are definiteyl Uranian things, too.
mercury makes jokes, too, but they are usually witty and clever and smart and rather superficial, but they lack that unconventionality I love about Uranus.

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posted October 19, 2008 06:54 AM         

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I do not even have ONE opposition natally.

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posted October 19, 2008 06:55 AM         

What caught my attention was:

° his Chiron conjunct your NN, Amor and Juno all in your 12th house
- some spiritual healing? I never know who heals whom, but it seems to be a placement of healing through love or of healing wounds of love

° his Jupiter conjunct your Psyche, Sun, Karma, Chiron and ASC in your 1st house
- he`s like the generous uncle who would support you no matter what you do
- Jupiter can be very supportive and benevolent, and here it is conjunct your Sun and ASC, so he would probably really like and encourage the way you present yourself, which could have a very healing and calming influence on your selfimage, which also carries the wound from past lives with it (Chiron and Karma are also there)

° his Venus conjunct your Saturn exactly
- highly karmic aspect
- could be stabilizing or suffocating
- for Saturn it is sometimes difficult to accept the appreciation Venus has to give

° his Amor and Mercury conjunct your Mars and Destinn
- ah a nice intellectual loving appreciation of what you do actively

° his Moon on your IC
- very emotional and intimate bond

° his Pluto and Juno on your SN and opposing your Amor and Juno
- this one looks intense
- with his Pluto and Juno on your SN I would look into the Draco`s, if you shared a past life
- maybe you`ve been married or commited in another way, and with Pluto there, it was a very intense and deep commitment
- or he forced you into a commitment and abused his power over you (not likely, I know)

° his Sun opposing your Neptune
- deeply spiritual
- you probably adore and idolize him
- you donīt necessarily see him as he really is in everyday life, but in spiritual sense there is a close connection

posted October 19, 2008 06:56 AM         

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PA,
actually I like your Draco synastry with him better. It seems to reflect the connection you feel to him.

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Yeah, I just feel this natural affinity with Christian - like, we're on the same page. We're very different people but with some very fundamental similarities.

posted October 19, 2008 06:57 AM         

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Christian is DEFFFFF a Scorpio ASC.

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posted October 19, 2008 06:59 AM         

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Can you go away... PLEASE?!??????

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Oh, you'll miss me when I'm gone.

posted October 19, 2008 07:00 AM         

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*ASTONISHMENT GALORE******

*THE HEAVENS PART AND ANGELS SING "Oh Happy Day..."****

*Meta falls off computer chair and goes into hypovolemic shock****

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I read this this morning and was p1ssing myself laughing.

posted October 19, 2008 07:02 AM         

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About that synastry, is it the one with Anderson Cooper?

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posted October 19, 2008 07:06 AM         

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I never know who heals whom,

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posted October 19, 2008 07:10 AM         

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you donīt necessarily see him as he really is in everyday life, but in spiritual sense there is a close connection

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You are so good!

posted October 19, 2008 07:12 AM         

I love the information you posted on the nodes in synastry. So good.

Anderson's North Node conjuncts my Saturn.

posted October 19, 2008 07:15 AM         

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Even though there are some polar aspects involved.
Like his Sun in Capricorn, my Sun in Sag.
his Venus in Sag, my Sun in Cap.
So, it`s not literally the same, but nicely spread between the yin and yang planets. lol

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I think you said someone where that you have a deep link with him but are not attracted as such is that right?

OK, the stuff with JT:

I don't know JT's birthtime, I think he has Aries Rising, I've set it at 6.5 deg and am satisfied with his chart. I've listed a lot of the Tropical v Tropical aspects, no where near exhaustive. Sorry if it is long, I'm going to keep the others short.

Tropical v Tropical (23's aspects v JT's)

Venus/Memoria opp Sun/Venus
Venus/Memoria trine Mars/Eros
Sun/Saturn/Mercury opp Mars/Eros (natally 23's Sun/Merc opp Saturn)
Jupiter/ASC/Moon/Pluto square Saturn
Saturn square Mars
Vertex conj Moon/Psyche
Hera conj Moon
SN conj Isis
SN conj Moon (wide - 5 deg)
Eros square Psyche
ASC/Eris conj Memoria
Jupiter conj Taylor
Anteros conj Mars/Eros
Venus square Nigel
Nigel/Eros opp Liebe
Pluto opp ASC
Karma/Moon conj Hera/Adonis
Cupido conj Karma
Neptune conj Aphro
Union/Taylor conj Johnny
MC conj Saturn
Sun/Lust/Merc/Angel conj Valentine (Sun/Lust/Merc are 4 degrees from Valentine though)
23's first name/Lyubov conj Chiron
Amor conj Link/Echo
Link conj Echo
Juno conj NN
Eros/Nigel square Moon/Amor/Psyche
Mars opp Johnny/Juno
Child conj Vertex

In 23's chart: Nigel conj Eros both square NN/Hera
In JT's chart: 23's first name conj Lust/ASC, 23's second name conj BML, 23's second name square Vertex

Draconic v Tropical (23's aspects v JT's)
ASC trine Jupiter/Mars
ASC sextile Sun/Venus
Moon conj Chiron/23's first name in his chart
Venus square Valentine
Mars opp Mars
Mars conj Union
Mars trine Sun/Venus
Mars sextile Jupiter
Jupiter trine Mars/Jupiter
Uranus conj SN
Pluto trine Venus
Chiron opp Chiron
POF conj Amor/Moon/Psyche
Psyche conj Adonis/Hera
Eros widely conj Sun/Venus (4, 5 deg resp)
Isis conj Nigel
Karma conj Chiron
Union conj Mars/Eros
Union sextile Venus/Sun/Jupiter
Hera opp Link/Echo
Cupido conj ASC/Lust/23's first name
Vertex opp Nigel
Adonis conj Memoria
Vertex square Sun/Venus/Jupiter
Penelope conj Sun/Venus and opp Jupiter
Nigel/Eros widely conj Sun/Venus (4, 5 def resp)
Taylor opp Chiron
23's first name opp Saturn

I'm out of breath....

posted October 19, 2008 07:20 AM         

"Sun opposite Sun. Using your interpretation of balance = a balance of personalities and natures."
I think the balancing happens more often with polar planets like Sun and Moon for example.
In this case I think it`s like you described it yesterday, probably a mix of attraction and repulsion.

"Love the Psyche on your IC. Also the Moon in your MC."
Yes, that looks nice, doesn`t it?

"Neptune conjunct your Venus"
Pretty dreamy I think.

" HIs mars trines your Venus. I like that - preferable to the female's Mars trining the male Venus. The roles are more natural - man being man, woman being woman."
Yes. Event hough I usually do not look at other aspects than conjunction and opposition in the Draco`s (to keep the charts uncluttered). But I think it is a nice one to have.

"hat do you "feel" for him? Of him?"
Interesting question. Without astrology?
You know what my initial reaction was, when Blue Moon posted his pic the first time? (And I didn`t even know who he was at that time).

But I felt something boiling inside, felt like anger or something like this. And the thought of "Not now, not here, not again".

And I stayed away from your discussion over him, because I kinda felt he was "dangerous".
It`s just now that I realized how many films I have seen where he was in it, and I remember that I have felt that sort of "anger" - and something else - every time I saw him,a nd forgot about him every time again.

I mean he even managed to distract me from Jude in the film "Shopping"; I thought Sean was oozing so much sex appeal in the short scenes he had, and he had such sizzling chemistry with Sadie Frost (who later became Jude`s wife for many years, so you should have thought THEY had the most on screen chemistry), but he unsettled me - GREATLY.

Now that I have come aware of him. What do I feel?
It feels rough, raw, edgy; You know the song "Poison"?
There is this line that goes: "I wanna hurt you just to hear you scream my name".
That`s how it feels like.
In a way it feels like I am not only attracted to him, but that I want to fight him. It`s a bit strange and probably most embarassing, but it has the whole feel of those Pirate-movies I used to love so much (still do), where both struggle for suppremacy, despite knowing they are equal in strength, just in different ways.
But not like in a fight on life and death, more like young leos fight against or with each other, in a rough, but still playful and goodnatured way.

Stupid? Me? Probably.

And then, on a completely different level, he makes me feel comfortable. At ease.
You know I would only be able to fight, if I really felt comfortable.
I contribute that to the fact that his Sun in my 4th house trines my Sun, and that his Moon trines my Sag-stellium.

Hmm, looking at the Dracos:

Draco - Draco

Sun opposite Sun
Moon conjunct Pluto
Mars opposite Lilith
Neptune conjunct Venus
Juno opposite Karma
Karma opposite Chiron
Destinn conjunct MOon
Eros opposite Lilith
Lust oposite pluto and Aphrodite
Lilith and Nesus conjunct Eros, Destinna nd Vertex

Draco - natal
Sun conjunct Aphrodite
Saturn opposite Sun
Neptune conjunct chiron
Pluto conjunct MOon
Juno conjunct IC
Destinn conjunct DSC
Unionc onjunct Moon
Psyche conjunct ERos!
Psyche conjunct Vertex and Destinn
Amor oposite Moon

Natal Draco

Sun conjunct Venus
Moon conjunct Chiron
Mercury conjunct Neptune
Venus conjunct Moon
Mrs conjunct Jupiter
Mars conjunct juno
Saturn opposite Juno
Uranus conjunct chiron
Neptune conjunct Saturn
Karma oposite Union
Destinn opposite Lilith
Eros conjunct Juno

BTW what I said above, it only pictures what I receive ona purely emotional level from his appearance and way he comes across in films; I do not know anything about him in real life, except that he can`t remain married for long obviously. So, his REAL personality could actually be a turn off, if he for example was a drinker or abused his wife.

Int he usual synastry there are some aspects that do not look so good actually.
His Saturn squares my Pluto and Mc
his Mars squares my MC
his Pluto widely squares my Mars

Actually if I see it right,
his Venus on 3° Gemini
opposes
my Mars on 5° Sagittarius
and squares
his Pluto on 2° Virgo

A T-square of Venus, Mars and Pluto?

posted October 19, 2008 07:23 AM         

Tropical synastry with Anderson Cooper:

His North Node conjuncts my Saturn.
His Vertex conjunct my Destinn & Mars.
His Pluto conjunct my South Node. (Again!!!!)
His Mercury conjunct my IC.
His Saturn conjunct my Sun, Psyche, Karma, Ascendant & Chiron. (Whoa!)
His Sun trine my Moon.
His Destinn conjuncts my Descendant.
My Vertex is a wide around 3-4 degree orb conjunction of his Ascendant.
His MC square my Ascendant.
His Descendant conjunct my Karma.
His Moon conjunct my Mercury.
His Karma opposite my Moon.
His Psyche trine my MC.
His NN trine my MC.

Draco:

posted October 19, 2008 07:24 AM         

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"Neptune conjunct your Venus"
Pretty dreamy I think.

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posted October 19, 2008 07:26 AM         

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Interesting question. Without astrology?

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posted October 19, 2008 07:31 AM         

Pluto square Sun/Venus/Jupiter
Cupido conj Moon
Mercury/Sun/Lust conj Mercury
Saturn conj Saturn
SN/Isis/Anti-vertex conj Neptune
Mars square Pluto
Mars square Chiron
Adonis conj POF
ASC conj Vertex
Moon/Pluto/Jupiter square BML
Venus opp Juno/Johnny/Taylor
Moon/Karma conj 23's first name
Eros square Eros
Cupido conj Psyche
SN/Isis/Anti-vertex square Valentine
Psyche conj Karma
ASC opp ASC/Osiris
Moon conj ASC
Sun/Merc/Lust opp Amor
Venus/Union trine Union
Venus/Union square Hera
Sun/Mercury/Lust square Aphrodite
Amor opp Hera

(oddly my first name in his tropical is conj his draco Johnny/Cupido) and his draco Vx conj Memoria

posted October 19, 2008 07:38 AM         

who is this guy?
I wanna know!

Interesting what you say on the Nodes and outer planets. I also think more and more that the Nodes may hold the key to a synastry; and therefore the Nodes-horoscope (the Draconic chart) becomes pretty evident, too.

On outer planets; I dont give any real credit to connections like isolated Uranus-Pluto for example.
But I think they become VERY meaningful, if coupled with personal planets.

The personal aspects are important, too, because they describe your basic compatibility, though.

posted October 19, 2008 07:38 AM         

In tropical, Colin's Psyche & Moon conjunct my IC. Oh, love that!

Interestingly, Colin has natal Venus trine Pluto and I have natal Mars trine Pluto.

posted October 19, 2008 07:39 AM         

What? No pics of JT? No shocked look?

posted October 19, 2008 07:41 AM         

Venus trine Sun/Venus
Venus sextile Jupiter
Mars square Saturn
Mars trine Uranus
Mars trine Juno
Saturn opp Mars
POF square Valentine
Eros wide conj Juno (5 deg)
Psyche conj ASC
Karma/Moon square Karma
Union square Saturn
Mars trine Johnny/Taylor

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who is this guy?
I wanna know!

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