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MoonDuchess88
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posted October 01, 2005 02:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh no, Im sorry, I didn't mean it like that. Please don't get the wrong Idea. Im saying he LIKES you! I mean, Im sure he like to start a business with you but he definately wants you as something more. He was trying to find a roundabout way to talk to you in a more "direct" way (over the phone, as opposed to text messaging). And what what better way than to do it on the pretense of talking business. I've done this many times before-trying to be direct in an indirect way-it's weird, I know

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posted October 01, 2005 06:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Definitely an excuse... If you need the money start worrying, he doesn't mean bussiness... I'm pretty sure.

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celticfyre
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posted October 01, 2005 08:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's great Luv...wishing you only the best with yours!!!!!!!!!!I only wish mine would come around---- he was like that initally then now with his daughter at home she is his priority besides work and etc...I told him before i left the station that I missed him this week figuring it would make him feel better as he had a pretty bad week as did I and i hope i didn;t make him feel worse as his reply was soemthing to the effect you know how rough it is when Paula (his daighter) is at home and I told him I know i know... I figured I had waited long enough to tell him out aof a mood but I don't know..I don't know anything anymore maybe I just have PMS big time which only seems to effect me about once a year! Plus I hate new moons for the craziness they exert on everything things seem to go more wrong than during a full moon! I am trying to hang in there and have faith but I think I have work myself down into the Grey Lizard Scorpio depths right now some place I rarely get to be...I'm ususally an Eagle...maybe I need to go into hiding for a while....What do ya'll think?????

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cancerrg
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posted October 02, 2005 12:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
just hang on . thats the best way . now, its not about cancer but simple practical sense .

something is always better than nothing .u never know , where the things will turn.

btw, just check out the selfishness thread that might give u a bit more idea about thier confusions and how that affect others.

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cancerrg
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posted October 02, 2005 01:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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They interfere in the womanly things I do...like ask all these personal feminine questions. I like my men on the manly side.

//////I have this annoying Cancer uncle who always has to tell me how he thinks I look whenever I meet him. (For example, "Oh you've gained weight!" or "Highlights don't look good on you. Not natural"). Im always like ok....who the eff asked you (thinking this not saying it of course) lol.


i am not sure if these sentences are connected but in case ,if they are meant to be . i would just say , cancers say these things just for connecting with people . its thier way . i do this to all the people that i know , infact i give tips .

its in no way a sexual comment . even at that , these are said to people that they feel bit familiar with , not every tom, dick or harry ( u could even include the prince ) . its a way of making people comfortable.

with me , i have felt , air signs seem to dislike this (except libras to an extent), they take this more as a buttering but this has worked with everyone else .

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posted October 02, 2005 02:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cancers hardly make those nasty comments... Doesn't your uncle have asc Saggitarious or something like that?

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celticfyre
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posted October 03, 2005 12:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey RG ! yeah Am trying to hang on! i read the thread you suggested and replied...oh and if you read it i forgot one thing i also told him I was not out to change him but open his eyes to realm of possiblities...meaning he didn't hav to compartamentalize everything that you could blend soem of those compartments meaning hey I can do things with him and his daughter evenif it was only spending an evening at home. but anyway...thanks for giving two cents

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celticfyre
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posted October 03, 2005 12:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh yeah...i forgot...i'm a little tired.... I had meat to say I was hanging on here in my little compartment waiting for my turn to be taken out to play. okay that was my grey lizard scorpio being mean...i had to say it to get it off my chest!

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luvscorp
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posted October 03, 2005 12:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Celtic angel, I still have the same grey areas with the cancerian gyu, the difference is that I have changed my attitude now and it has made me happier and less worried about the situation. I just go out, do my thing with my friends and family and don't revolve all my thoughts patterns around him ......... he contacts me now, i don't contact him as he has made it perfectly clear that he is always so busy .......... so I just let it happen and if he wants to see me he will make a plan ......... and now he is making plans - so I am happy I don't make myself unavailable though, I always answer his call if I am free and I always respond when he needs to chat. I feel much better now as I feel more in control of myself. Also my attitude towards him is a lot nicer too ........ I find myself always being nice and wanting to be nice cos I am no longer building up reasons in my head to have a go at him or point out his mistakes ....... the fact is he is isn't making ay mistakes, he is just living his life the best way he can under his circumstances and I have to do the same ..........

So angel, if you focus on yourself and do what you want for yourself then I am sure everythign will fall into place and may have some more fun with it?!

Whadaya think?

Also if things don't work out with him I am not sure I would be devastated because my life is so full Although I am secretly hoping we will have an awesome time together

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celticfyre
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posted October 03, 2005 03:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Luv,

yes what your doing is exactly what I should be doing, and it would what i would tell soemone else if they came to me with the same problem but there are times when it is hard to listen to your own advice...lol...yet I hate to feel like I have been forgotten or cast away and out of sight out of mind.

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luvscorp
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posted October 04, 2005 04:28 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Celtic, i agree with you ........ i still don't like being ignored but the secret I find is to show them that it doesn't bother you and never mention it does .......... when my guy calls I am always "hey how r u etc... gosh I am having cool week" and let him know that I am really busy too........... When he cancelled yesterdays meeting cos he was sick he wanted to see me today, wed, thurs, fri but I have a full diary until Saturday so couldn't do it ........ he got a little uptight about it but didn't say too much ......... Just fill up your diary babes and have fun ....... he will be there for you

TIP: they hate being ignored too so a little of their own medicine doesn't hurt as long as it is done in the nicest possible way.

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sue g
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posted October 04, 2005 05:39 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mmmm.....you are very Scorpionic arent ya girl......?

When I was with an Aqua guy I used to do this a lot of the time.....but the whole relationship became based on "head game".......in the end it exhausted me........

The guy I am with for the past 16 years is different.....no headgames.....challenges......but I didnt want to go thro that again....

I am sure you know what you are doing....I hope it works out for you and if not that you meet "the one" when the time is right.

Love to you

Scorpio Sue xxx xxx

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luvscorp
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posted October 04, 2005 03:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you will be ok celtic! you r the person in his life and that is a fab place to be, even tho it may not seem so right now. When he does have time to think of something romantic, u r the one he thinks of. It may not be as often as you like but that will change over time

Playing games is not what I am suggesting, all I am saying is focus on yrself and all will fall into place.

I still don't know if anything will ever happen seriously btwn me and the cancerian guy, but at least I am enjoying my life any way. I do feel the way you do underneath it all, but instead of it being at the front of my mind it is at the back. It used to drive me mad, his behaviour, but I think cos I got to point of walking away, my mind was prepared to do it and in some funny way, even though he is around again, i think my mind is still ready to go if nothing happens.

So hang in there and if u need an ear let me know and I will try my best to help.

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celticfyre
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posted October 04, 2005 04:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Luv, needed to hear that...i think my insecurity stems form old baggage and he's really NOT the type to bail on anyone. It's just my head playing games with me. Nice to know there are folks out there who really care

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Isolaede
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posted October 04, 2005 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isolaede     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*Big hugs*

Celtic, you are an wonderful woman, and your cancer boy is so lucky to have you. I know ALL about old insecurities and hurts. They loom over all of my relationships like ghostly shadows, whispering of failure and loss. We cannot let our past dictate our future though. I remind myself of this every day. Your cancer man is not like anyone you’ve ever dated before, and as long as he is with you rest assured that you are the one he wants. You and only you.

I had a bit of an epiphany when I realized your crab had a child. I think his child is probably the heart of what keeps his affections and attentions focused away from you. Cancers prioritize their lives in a big way – and children are always first on that priority list. Always. If he is actively involved in his child’s life that would leave less room for you - Unless you can find a way to support him in that part of his life. I wonder if you could arrange to take him and his child out to the park or some amusement park some weekend? Try to include his child in your plans if he will allow that.

I know you are probably worn out from all the advice people are tossing your way, but every time I see one of your posts I’m so touched and driven to try to help you. It’s very obvious that you love this man thoroughly and completely, and believe me that’s the kind of love cancers spend their entire lives looking for.

Hang in there, Celtic. Know that you have a lot of love and care coming your way from myself and everyone on these forums.

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celticfyre
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posted October 04, 2005 06:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Big Hugs received and grateful
Thank you Isolaede!

Yes, his daughter is his the most important thing to him and she is due to be tweleve soon, not an easy age for a girl and not an easy age for a parent either. He had more time for me that is for sure during the summer while she was at her mom's except on some weekends. and now she is home except for every other weekend. We are both very busy people I work 12 hours shifts he works 5 day a week 10 hour days and we both volunteer at the same fire station on diffent nites and weekends so it is hard. His daughter likes me and is always giving me hugs and I have offered to help out when he has to run battlion for the night and he can't leave her alone at night and he has agreed for me to help him with that but he hasn't needed me to do that yet. SO I feel it is good, but now the togetherness time is greatly reduced and I am having a hard time adjusting, plus with all the typical Cancer traits of just not returning calls e-mails etc just makes me a little insecure don't know if that is wrong or normal. I'm really trying to cut him some slack. becasue he does work so hard that frequently he is exhausted and falls asleep way early or can't sleep at all and then is grouchy the next day and more exhausted....so there you are I 'm trying really ahrd to hang inthere ! thank you all!

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luvscorp
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posted October 06, 2005 09:17 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Celtic, I found out that he is more scared of me than I am of him, he thinks I am very guarded and that he can't find an angle to reach me ............ omg ......... didn't think i was doing that, so I think tis me that has to change a little - so I have started softness lessons with a guy friend of mine ......... quite a lot of fun actually I am learning a lot about my behaviour and I have even started giving everyone a hug every day - so many people r shocked cos they say I seem so unapproachable. Just don't know what to do now - cos I am not sure how to make him feel comfortable enough to approach me. Any suggestions guys? He wants 2 feel he can be affectionate - what do i to let him know is ok? I just thought he didn't want to get close at this point

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luvscorp
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posted October 06, 2005 09:58 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh yes and also if Cancerrg is out there - please may we have the seduction technique u mentioned on the thread in Soul Unions ??????? PRETTY PLEASE

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celticfyre
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posted October 06, 2005 10:05 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Luv,

may have to think on suggestions for ya, I gotta go to work but promise there will be a response. Would love to help a sister out

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celticfyre
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posted October 07, 2005 01:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Luv,

One thing you can do is be genuinely warm, touch him...don't attack himof course,be subtle with you touch but lingering. Hug him when it is appropriate. If he makes a move return it..like if he puts his arm around your waist put yours around his.be the last one to break an embrace or whatever if you can...Shouldn't be too hard-- smile at him--you like him right?? Its easier to be soft than prickly...lol I think my pisces moon allows me to be more sweet..i guess. I've always been told I have a sweet nature it comes through in my actions most of the time...the true scorpion comes out when its time to rescue or defend or when I get angry.It may be easier for me to "be softer" However I think many guys are intimidated by me for whatever reason. Don't know what made my boy crab step up, I had a feeling he liked me for a while and then I started needing help with stuff and one thing lead to another. And so I'm here trying not to go crazy.

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cancerrg
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posted October 08, 2005 08:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
that was brillaint isolaede

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Everybody is posting about Scorpio Woman and Cancer Man. I can't find any Cancer man around me.

So, shall i come to mumbai

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If you need the money start worrying, he doesn't mean bussiness... I'm pretty sure.

101% SURE . doubtlessly. business was just an excuse to talk .

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i also told him I was not out to change him but open his eyes to realm of possiblities...meaning he didn't hav to compartamentalize everything that you could blend soem of those compartments meaning hey I can do things with him and his daughter evenif it was only spending an evening at home. but anyway...thanks for giving two cents

Those were not two but twenty .
u know what , that kind of sentiment exactly makes a woman so adorable. infact, everytime i read your post , i have to control myself falling in love with u . i don't know how your man can resist such charms .
now, if u see the positive side , if someone can resist such charms for some responsbilities , u can understand the value , he gives to his responsbilities.

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TIP: they hate being ignored too so a little of their own medicine doesn't hurt as long as it is done in the nicest possible way.

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i think my insecurity stems form old baggage and he's really NOT the type to bail on anyone. It's just my head playing games with me.

Forget about the baggage part . they are non judgemental people , if it had counted , u would not have been given a place in his life . astrologically, this is one big reason , why they get allong with gems even after having so many diffs.

this baggage might come out only when u use his baggage against him , untill then .... nothing .
he might talk about your past , even tell u about his past but they are just a way to connect , not to rub your wounds .
i told u this b'coz u 'll go through this phase , just to avoid any confusion ( my twenty cents )


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posted October 08, 2005 08:46 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
just to add a bit more on what isolaede said , a cancer 's life is basically set upped on four 'F' i.e., family, friends, finance and f**k .
now, the first never changes its place but the last three can and normally tend to .

oh, that seduction tip . i think i have told u this earlier too .
its just a simple one, make him sentimental , cry a bit if u can . he wont be able to say no to anything that u say . but the problem is , if he feels he has been used , then its better to forget the realtion . so its not actually advisable . actually this is something that i am saying on experience . my cap sis would try to mend me according to her wish but it usually backfired with her but with my cancer sisters ,it didn't normally . reasson was , cap wouldn't stop using her mind and cancers in general dislike mindgames in realtions . all this , even though me and cap sis are more of friends but with cancers , its more of elder-younger dynamic.


and lastly, u scorps don't need to change yourself . scorp women are enchenting the way they are , not the way that others might want them to . all of us cancers posted to understand someone not necessarilly to change yourself.

i feel i forgot something , will write on when i remember . ok

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cancerrg
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posted October 08, 2005 08:49 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok, what was that voluntary service at fire station . i can understand it but i am interested in how the system works .
off the topic but ...... plzzzzz.

yeah , all the hugs and holding hands that suggested w would work . i feel , they always like it . i like holding hands.

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celticfyre
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posted October 09, 2005 02:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey RG!

Thank you for all your posts! It seems that you have come out with the moon...

>>>now, if u see the positive side , if someone can resist such charms for some responsbilities , u can understand the value , he gives to his responsbilities.<<<
Yes I do understand the value of this especially when I need someone who is responsible, but it does get a little frustrating waiting your turn
I also have to get adjusted to the idea that he isn't going to be joined at the hip with me because of his responsibilties and other demands on his time...and I geuess that is what makes it different for me. When we are together without anyone else around) we are TOGETHER...that whole unspoken communication you talked about is there--it has always been there. But it is so difficult for whatever reason for me to feel reassured of my postion in his life and I don't know why, really....everyone on this board have been so kind to reassure me that I do have a position in his life which makes me feel better and intellectually I know that I have it ,but it doesn't feel concrete to me and that is what makes me feel unsettled. I mean this sounds so stupid , I mean I am getting his daughter something for her birthday after making sure it was okay with him and he said "Sure" like nothing would be wrong with that. So I'm getting more encouraged about where I fit in. I mean I'm sure he and I need to talk about it more and that would help but you gotta be able to spend soem time with someone in order to talk and I don't want it to be like the sole reason to get together you know like call him and say "look we need to talk" I hate that kind of stuff I just like to breach those subjects naturally and subtly, plus I don't want it push him away with that. Hee hee sometimes I seem to take the Cancerian approach with people

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celticfyre
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posted October 09, 2005 05:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well, a bit off topic, but can explain to CancerRG about the Voluteer Fire Station the myself and my boy crab voluteer at in our county. Fire department in the USA started essentially as voluteer stations --people in th same town took turns or reponded to call for "fire" to help put out the fire...Even tho now alot of localities have Career Firefighters/Paramedics/EMT's to respond to emergencies alot of localities have and rely on Volunteers....meaning we do it for no pay...very altruistic...to give back to our community etc. Our firestation is a combination station where there are Career firefighters during the week and we have a 24 hour paid Medic crew who are there and the Volunteers staff the evening night time hours and the weekends. We each have duty crew night...right now mine is tuesdays and his is friday nights and duty week end is every 3rd sunday and his every 3rd Saturday for a 24 our shift, but we can come up any time we like...for example I came up friday nite and stayed thru to sunday so to be able to spend some time with him and to keep from being home alone bored and paranoid lol....plus its fun. We also have "home response" where if we get a call we respond to the sation for the call...I live a little far to home respond all the time butI can still come in...I wish i lived a little closer. Maybe one day you can see how much time it does take up and if you add in work ( I work 3 12 hour shifts a week ---he works Mon-fri 830-6..so you can see how hard it is for us to get soem real alone time :P happy to answer any of your questions if you want to know more.

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