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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted November 10, 2011 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another thing. I have more than a few people, mostly women, who are Doubting Janes with regard to the speed at which I consummated marriage with my wife.

I cannot help them if they have inferiority complexes about their inability to manage their own relationships.

At one month, I knew my wife better than a lot of people would know each other after being toegtehr for two years. My wife and I worked extremely hard at our relationship then, and we still do.

Hate to be harsh, but the forum is stocked with some bitter people.

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posted November 10, 2011 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Another thing. I have more than a few people, mostly women, who are Doubting Janes with regard to the speed at which I consummated marriage with my wife.

I cannot help them if they have inferiority complexes about their inability to manage their own relationships.

At one month, I knew my wife better than a lot of people would know each other after being toegtehr for two years. My wife and I worked extremely hard at our relationship then, and we still do.

Hate to be harsh, but the forum is stocked with some bitter people.



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posted November 10, 2011 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can, always, talk with blunt speech to me. That is your Mars conjunct Mercury. I love that aspect.

I am meditating on your Neptune and it's conjunctions to the 2 asteroids. You want high standards. That is true, but are they unreasonable and hurting you?

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posted November 10, 2011 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You can, always, talk with blunt speech to me. That is your Mars conjunct Mercury. I love that aspect.

I am meditating on your Neptune and it's conjunctions to the 2 asteroids. You want high standards. That is true, but are they unreasonable and hurting you?


Hahaha Yes. That is absolutely true. I don't know about them being unreasonable in my eyes. Perhaps they are unreasonable in the eyes of others.

Yes, they are hurting me.

That is true in almost every aspect of my life, and I'm sure you can sense that the high standards are being exacted on my sons, although absolutely nothing like what was imposed on me when I was a child.

As for personal relationships, people disappoint me and fail me on a daily basis, especially at work, and fall short of my expectations of them. People irritate me.

I go home to my family to become happy again.

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posted November 10, 2011 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ian, you exemplify Mars conjunct Mercury and Venus trine moon. I love these both, and you coudld be the poster boy for them

I am gonna think on your Neptune cuz I think it is rich, for you.

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posted November 10, 2011 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am gonna stretch myself, on your chart, so tell me if I am wrong. I have a sense of your Neptune. It makes it hard to have those deep passions and drives be PART of you, right?
They seem like they have a life and world separate from your conscious world? Do you agree with that? They are almost an underworld with which you have little communication. That would be the best way to phrase it. Does that fit?

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posted November 10, 2011 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When Neptune touches the 8th or the 12th house, it seems harder. In your other chart, Neptune did NOT fit in the 9th house cuz you were not foggy about your relationship with God. It seems to fit in the 8th. It does not seem to fit in the 7th where you seem clear about your wife and marriage, so I think we have it in the right place, in the 8th.

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posted November 10, 2011 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, I am gonna take that you do have a "fog" about seeing your own deep emotions and passions, that it is not easy to accept them. (I understand as I have a similar configuration 8th/12th house Neptune aspect).
Now, you have Neptune conjunct 2 very important asteroids. I am wondering how this plays out. They are Pallas and Juno. I would think it would be hard to see the Pallas and Juno part of YOURSELF, but I will ask. Is it hard to see the "wise woman" part of yourself? Is it hard to see the loyal, devoted wife part of yourself. I will give you some time to think and answer, as I am trying to understand these aspects, myself.

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posted November 10, 2011 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ian, you exemplify Mars conjunct Mercury and Venus trine moon. I love these both, and you coudld be the poster boy for them

I am gonna think on your Neptune cuz I think it is rich, for you.


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posted November 10, 2011 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I am gonna stretch myself, on your chart, so tell me if I am wrong. I have a sense of your Neptune. It makes it hard to have those deep passions and drives be PART of you, right?
They seem like they have a life and world separate from your conscious world? Do you agree with that? They are almost an underworld with which you have little communication. That would be the best way to phrase it. Does that fit?


It is incredibly hard to have those deep passions and emotional drives, whether conscious or unconscious, as part of me. Sometimes I do wish I were less sensitive and less caring. That would ease a lot of the pain and sorrow I experience on an almost daily basis.

Yes, the emotions are clearly part of a clandestine underworld that rarely surfaces and seldom manifests in my outer persona. Its almost like a submarine in the ocean that nobody else can detect, but which is very much part of me. I spend a lot of time alone in deep contemplation and commiseration about such matters.

You have my Neptune correct.

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posted November 10, 2011 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ok, I am gonna take that you do have a "fog" about seeing your own deep emotions and passions, that it is not easy to accept them. (I understand as I have a similar configuration 8th/12th house Neptune aspect).
Now, you have Neptune conjunct 2 very important asteroids. I am wondering how this plays out. They are Pallas and Juno. I would think it would be hard to see the Pallas and Juno part of YOURSELF, but I will ask. Is it hard to see the "wise woman" part of yourself? Is it hard to see the loyal, devoted wife part of yourself. I will give you some time to think and answer, as I am trying to understand these aspects, myself.


I'm going to think about this over dinner and I will get back to you. This one needs more thought

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posted November 10, 2011 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Ian, for your sweet heart
It brightened my day. Yes, think on this, as the chart is ALWAYS right, but our understanding of it, is the challenge .

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posted November 10, 2011 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Is it hard to see the "wise woman" part of yourself? Is it hard to see the loyal, devoted wife part of yourself.

I want to make sure before I embarrass myself with this answer.

You want me to put myself in the shoes of a woman and a wife. Am I correct? I can easily answer about being a man and a husband, but I take a woman and a wife in an entirely different context.

I note that the symbolisms can take on a whole myraid of meanings in the sense of a man stepping into the shoes of a woman

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posted November 10, 2011 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No. I do not mean PUT yourself in the role of a loyal, devoted wife or a wise woman. I am wondering if Neptune is BLOCKING these parts of you?

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posted November 10, 2011 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am trying to figure out your 8th house. I think Neptune is making it not accessible to you.The 8th house is everything we "hide", as people i.e.whatever you could not talk about at a cocktail party

So, it is deep, repressed emotions, things it is not "polite" to feel. It is all things primal--rage, jealousy, passion, lust, etc etc--the 7th deadly sins, perhaps.


With these 2 asteroids here, I am wondering if Neptune is blocking THIS part of you i.e. that you have shoved it away.

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posted November 10, 2011 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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No. I do not mean PUT yourself in the role of a loyal, devoted wife or a wise woman. I am wondering if Neptune is BLOCKING these parts of you?


No. I'm excellent as a providing husband and a supporting wife. I'm also excellent as a sheltering father and a nurturing mother. Iam excellent in Houses 5 and 7. In addition to House 10, these are the pride of my life. Neptune is not blocking any of these parts of myself.

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posted November 10, 2011 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I am trying to figure out your 8th house. I think Neptune is making it not accessible to you.The 8th house is everything we "hide", as people i.e.whatever you could not talk about at a cocktail party

So, it is deep, repressed emotions, things it is not "polite" to feel. It is all things primal--rage, jealousy, passion, lust, etc etc--the 7th deadly sins, perhaps.


With these 2 asteroids here, I am wondering if Neptune is blocking THIS part of you i.e. that you have shoved it away.


This part is definitely blocked. I do not share these emotions with anyone, and often not even with my wife. My repressed emotions, passions, lust, sin, jealousy, rage etc. are hidden from everyone. I do not discuss such matters. I may share some of it with my closest friends, but even then rarely so, and rarely the full details.

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posted November 11, 2011 08:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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This part is definitely blocked. I do not share these emotions with anyone, and often not even with my wife. My repressed emotions, passions, lust, sin, jealousy, rage etc. are hidden from everyone. I do not discuss such matters. I may share some of it with my closest friends, but even then rarely so, and rarely the full details.

OK, do you want to go here with me. I think you should, as what is the point of doing all this, if you don't learn things you cannot know, otherwise?

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posted November 11, 2011 08:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This neptune in the 8th is directly related to your difficulty in groups as there is a square to Saturn in the 11th, the house of groups. This is, prolly, why groups are hard. You are not picking up on the inner dynamics of groups cuz your connection to your own compass is not very clear. IOW, you do not flow well with the group dynamic and there IS one,always. One must feel it out with one's inner compass. There are never any "rules". How did you get along with the groups at boarding school?

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posted November 11, 2011 08:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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OK, do you want to go here with me. I think you should, as what is the point of doing all this, if you don't learn things you cannot know, otherwise?

Go for it.

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posted November 11, 2011 09:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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How did you get along with the groups at boarding school?


Horribly. They generally hated me anyway. It was a "Chinese" thing. Do you know what a "blanket party" is? That is when boys throw a blanket over your head and the whole group (about 100 of them) comein to punch and kick. The school shrugged its shoulders. I went to school having to call some of those bozos Lords and Your Highness. They were all either rich or powerful or mostly both. There were no girls at my school. I hung out with the downtrodden, and thus my affection for the weak, the meek and the oppressed.

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posted November 11, 2011 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You are not picking up on the inner dynamics of groups cuz your connection to your own compass is not very clear. IOW, you do not flow well with the group dynamic and there IS one,always. One must feel it out with one's inner compass.

The only compass I know is my moral compass, which unfortunately isn't shared widely these days among groups.

As far as group dynamics, the outlook and objectives of groups are frequently divergent from mine. When I do find people who share common ground with me, I stick to them, and thus my own little clique in the corner.

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posted November 11, 2011 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The only compass I know is my moral compass, which unfortunately isn't shared widely these days among groups.

As far as group dynamics, the outlook and objectives of groups are frequently divergent from mine. When I do find people who share common ground with me, I stick to them, and thus my own little clique in the corner.


Aw, I am seeing the picture, now. I think i can help as my Scorpio seems to be the missing piece. Let me think on this, Sweet One!

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posted November 11, 2011 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Aw, I am seeing the picture, now. I think i can help as my Scorpio seems to be the missing piece. Let me think on this, Sweet One!


No, correction. You are the Sweet One. And the Great One as well! You are a gift from God

Hallelujah

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posted November 11, 2011 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aw, Ian. That felt so good. Thank you so very much

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