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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted November 07, 2011 03:20 PM
  
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How about doing this. I hate to take up ALL of PR but your Chiron does not have the lines drawn on it, so I have to figure out each aspect, mentally. Could you do a thread--with a new chart with the lines drawn to Chiron and we will try to see, exactly what Chiron is doing?Just title it My Chiron with Aspects--atten to me. I may leave it there and meditate on it. Just do it, at your leisure. I have a lot to work with, as it is. Chiron may be touching other things that I am not noticing.
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posted November 07, 2011 03:22 PM
Ok, I see about the service issue. I am going to think on this a bit. The 6th house would rule genetic issues which were at the root of your tremendous pain with your dear children and the loss of one.------------------
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posted November 07, 2011 03:27 PM
YOU may have super, super high standards for service.------------------
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posted November 07, 2011 03:34 PM
Your Chiron semi sextiles your Jupiter in the 1st. For Chiron to gte the sunniness of Jupiter, you must try and try to pull it in. The semi sextile is a minor aspect that can be pulled in, with a great deal of effort, but can be done. I have experience with one and am trying to connect my moon to Venus, as you could try to connect your Chiron to Jupiter with it's fire, warmth,courage and positive spirit.------------------
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posted November 07, 2011 03:34 PM
You don't have to make the separate chart, I can look at Chiron, mentally. It is easy. Don't worry!------------------
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posted November 07, 2011 03:37 PM
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YOU may have super, super high standards for service.
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Ami Anne
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posted November 07, 2011 03:37 PM
Your Chiron trines your NN which represents your goals . Your pain can help take you to your goals.------------------
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posted November 07, 2011 03:40 PM
Your Chiron sextiles your Sun in the 10th. I am getting the picture, so far, that you may USE your pain, in service to others, but it is just a prelimanary theory and not backed up enough to say it, right now. At the end of my readings, I can usually see the person 3D. Then, I can see the strengths, weaknesses and give ways to overcome the hard parts of the chart. I am just thinking out loud, now.------------------
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posted November 07, 2011 03:44 PM
I JUST got something about Saturn in the 11th square Neptune in the 8th. We talked about this but it just seemed to become clear. Your pain in groups may be because you are out of touch with the DEEPER emotions that go on under the surface. As such, you feel that you cannot navigate your way, in groups. We did talk about this, but it hit me in a simpler way. What do you think, Ian? I know this stuff is heavy cuz Uting has me in the hot seat and not nearly as badly as I have you  ------------------
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posted November 07, 2011 03:50 PM
I need to think about Chiron, a bit now. Please. talk about anything you care to, in the meantime. ------------------
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posted November 07, 2011 04:05 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I JUST got something about Saturn in the 11th square Neptune in the 8th. We talked about this but it just seemed to become clear. Your pain in groups may be because you are out of touch with the DEEPER emotions that go on under the surface. As such, you feel that you cannot navigate your way, in groups. We did talk about this, but it hit me in a simpler way. What do you think, Ian?
I cannot navigate my way in groups because I cannot relate to others, and vice versa. I'm not sure I'm out of touch with my deeper emotions. Its a matter of lack of control and involuntary responses. Why do I emotionally bond with all whom I have close contact? Sometimes I understand and can control, sometimes I understand and have no control and sometimes I have neither control nor understanding. Most of this attraction is to a combination of: (1) women, (2) younger people, and (3) those in need. I latch on worst to young women in need. I had a separate discussion on this issue with anongrl10, and I mostly agree with her about codependency being hideous. Having said that, my initial attraction to my wife was a function of the above, as is my emotional turmoil right now at work. IP: Logged |
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posted November 07, 2011 04:11 PM
Well, the 11th house is JUST groups, so if we break it down, your struggle would be with groups, only, in terms of what we are talking about , here. We have to stick to each house and each aspect on it's own,now, as I am not merging them in to a whole, now, but looking at each one, alone.------------------
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posted November 07, 2011 04:14 PM
What I am postulating, from this one aspect, is that when you are in groups, you are not in touch with your deeper emotions, in this setting. As such, the groups don't work out cuz you are not connected to your compass/deep emotions. You can be connected in other areas and settings. The 11th house is people in groups, not one on one, committed relationships, family, social or career relationships, etc. It is limited to people in groups, basically.------------------
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posted November 07, 2011 04:24 PM
I would think that your group problems would be that for some reason, your deeper emotions/compass is fogged in THIS setting i.e. a group setting for a purpose, not a group at a casual party, for example, or even a group at business. Neptune in the 8th is fogged emotions and it is squaring Saturn in the 11th which is a hard time with groups. ------------------
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posted November 07, 2011 04:35 PM
Wow this topic is off the walls flaming hot! Haha, Let me just add by saying that I do see Ian more as an aries ascendant (especially in the workplace) than a pisces ascendant. I read it and it was like "...whaa..?..does not compute."------------------
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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted November 07, 2011 04:41 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
What I am postulating, from this one aspect, is that when you are in groups, you are not in touch with your deeper emotions, in this setting. As such, the groups don't work out cuz you are not connected to your compass/deep emotions. You can be connected in other areas and settings. The 11th house is people in groups, not one on one, committed relationships, family, social or career relationships, etc. It is limited to people in groups, basically.
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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted November 07, 2011 05:08 PM
Take what malicefey says seriously. She observes my behavior for more hours a day during the week than anyone else. IP: Logged |
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posted November 07, 2011 06:13 PM
very ,very cool that malice agrees with the Aries ASC. I know it is a bold move to adjust times BUT you did not fit the aspects when you had the different time. i was thinking of your venus in the 12th in the other chart. That does NOT seem to be you, as you are very loving in the little time I have known you. You CAN give love, freely, so that does not fit with Venus in the 12th who will hold back. Glad to have you on board, Malice  IP: Logged |
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posted November 07, 2011 06:17 PM
I am gonna meditate on your Chiron, a bit. It touches a lot of things. Even when Chiron touches in a trine, it may be painful, I am thinking. My friend has a Saturn trine Venus and she said she hold back in love, so perhaps Chiron's pain touches houses EVEN with a trine which is "good". I am trying to see how you had the pain with career. Chiron sextiles your Sun and Mars in the house of career.------------------
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posted November 07, 2011 06:19 PM
Wait a minute. It does not touch Mars. I had the Mars at the wrong degree. YOU have another of my fave aspects--mars conjunct mercury. You can and will say what is on your mind in a bold and honest way! is this true ------------------
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posted November 07, 2011 06:22 PM
OK, so Chiron sextiles the Sun in the 10th house, bringing your inner pain in to your career or somehow having pain touch your career. I think we could say that.------------------
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posted November 07, 2011 06:24 PM
Chiron trines the NN (1 deg), so you WILL get help to reach your goals. This pain will help you, SOMEHOW, reach your life goals. This aspect is making me think that you will use your pain in SOME sort of service, but I have not gotten there, yet. That is the 6th house. I will go there, now.------------------
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posted November 07, 2011 06:27 PM
Chiron in Pisces in the 12th oppose Uranus in Virgo in the 6th house (exact). The exact aspect is always the more powerful one.Uranus in the 6th will shake up everything the 6th house rules. It rules service of a practical nature, work of a practical nature and health. So, you will be shaken up in some of these areas. You have been shaken up with health, the genetic issues. Right there, Uranus put a huge shock on you. Uranus is the planet of shocking things and abrupt stops and starts. ------------------
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posted November 07, 2011 06:30 PM
Chiron opposing this would make you go back and forth between deep and hidden pain, on one hand and shock and huge changes in health things, you could say. I thik this fits. You were terribly shaken up and you had terrible hidden pain . The opposition makes you see saw back and forth between two poles. You have felt you had to hide this deep wound, so that is classic Chiron in the 12th house. ------------------
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posted November 07, 2011 06:34 PM
Chiron opposes Pluto in the 6th house(4 degrees). Health issues again made a tidal wave impression on your life. I think Pluto shows this, most of all.As far as service, PERHAPS, you will do some very unusual service with your pain. The Chiron trine NN makes me think of this. I am feeling you have some thoughts on this. Do you? Is there some 'way out" service thing you always wanted to do? Has it been a passion that you thought would never come to be? Is it related to your children, somehow? I am thinking it is of a practical nature,too, like meeting practical needs of people, somehow. Am i right? ------------------
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