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lotusheartone
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posted July 13, 2007 03:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
Honestly Silverstone, I don't believe you, Sorry, No Worries! All is forgiven as it happens!

LOve and Reverence to ALL. ...

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posted July 13, 2007 03:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverstone     Edit/Delete Message
Huh? Good night, Lotus. I can see you want to pick a fight. Either you are bored or who knows.

Good night,

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posted July 13, 2007 05:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
The Sumerian Tablets. I believe these can shine a light on a lot of the confusion surrounding myths. David agrees with the general theme of Zechariah Sitchin's work, although he personally feels that there were certain inaccuracies, for example, he doesn't think there will really be a 'planet x'; a planet of crossing.

I'm trying to find the link. Here's something else- very interesting I just found whilst searching:

quote:
Fathers of the zodiac tracked down

'Using modern techniques — and some rocks — a US astronomer has traced the origin of a set of ancient clay tablets to a precise date and place. The tablets show constellations thought to be precursors of the present-day zodiac.

The tablets, known collectively as MUL.APIN, contain nearly 200 astronomical observations, including measurements related to several constellations. They are written in cuneiform, a Middle-Eastern script that is one of the oldest known forms of writing, and were made in Babylon around 687 BC.'


Just 'for the record', David's message is not one of fear but one of EMPOWERMENT.

"And the truth shall set us free".


LOVE

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posted July 13, 2007 06:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
We have forgotten who we truly are.
We are the dream-makers, and not the dream.

Infinite Love Is The Only Truth; EVERYTHING else is illusion.

Awareness is Oneness.

There is no evil except non-awareness.

"Forgive them. For they know not what they do".

Fear is an illusion; our own creation-
Why let our own illusion control us?
The truth can set us free.

So, if what we see is an illusion,
And people are caught up in the matrix,

Is there a reason to be here?

Yes.

Infinite Love Is The Only Truth; EVERYTHING else is illusion

And

Infinite Love does not abandon.


So, if we created our illusion....If we all chose to expand our consciousness through experience in this way.....
Then why did we create pain, fear, suffering?

Because we allowed it to.

Is there any ultimate reason for such suffering?
To help us wake up.

Infinite Love Is The Only Truth. EVERYTHING else is illusion.


When we reflect AWARENESS
Back into OUR Collective Consciousness
Then we will play a part
In the changing of Reality

Yes- the truth- the truth will set us free
There is no separation; there is no polarity
All is One


Infinite Love Is The Only Truth,
everything else is illusion.

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posted July 13, 2007 06:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
Astrology is just a part of the matrix. Yes, it plays a role in our chemical make-up; but we can get beyond that.

The Mayan prophecies....This whole 2012 thing....this is just a part of the matrix. The changes that will take place....this could mean many different things. One thing it could mean is a new level of more wide-spread AWARENESS if enough of us can become aware.....to project it.....to reflect it.

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posted July 13, 2007 07:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverstone     Edit/Delete Message
Listens To Trees

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Between the woods and frozen lake
The darkest evening of the year....
The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.

The woods are lovely, dark, and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep. ~Robert Frost

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posted July 13, 2007 07:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverstone     Edit/Delete Message
Quote:
"We are the dream-makers, and not the dream."

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Between the woods and frozen lake
The darkest evening of the year....
The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.

The woods are lovely, dark, and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep. ~Robert Frost

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lotusheartone
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posted July 13, 2007 07:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
Know God and you will know, see, and hear truth..no one can do this for you, only you
with GOD. ...

Do you think David Icke is a Master?

LOve and Reverence for ALL. ...

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posted July 13, 2007 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
I don't think David Icke or anyOne else is any more special than anyone else.

We are all special.

Jesus was the son of a humble carpenter. He was free from vanity and ego. He tried to emphasize that 'ALL THAT I HAVE DONE, YOU CAN DO ALSO'.
But what do people do? They don't follow a word of this (I don' think that it is their fault, just the way religion was used to control and the words twisted).
So, instead people made an idol out of him. They even made an idol out of Mary so that people who would prefer to look to a Mother Goddess would take to the new religion with more ease.

The same with Buddha. He tried to get away from all the idolatry and restrictive dogma....what do people do? Make him into an idol and create more restrictive dogma.

We do need to look within and we do need to find our intuition again. However there is a danger. The danger is that it is very easy to mistake self-delusion and fantasy for intuition and truth. I do not say this lightly because I have struggled with this myself; it has been very painful at times.....the search for the real truth in this life does not come easy, from what I have seen and known.

Recently I met someone who was extremely self-deluded. (He thought he was the Messiah- he didn't tell me straight away though). I actually listened to this person for a while because, for one thing I had been feeling rather low and was in a vulnerable way, and for another thing I have such an open-mind; more open than most.....But I feel, however, that this happened to me for a reason; it was to give me the chance to be more discerning and more aware of the extent of the vast illusion of this matrix

I just wish I could help others to be free from these bars that we cannot see....

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posted July 13, 2007 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
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Do you think David Icke is a Master?

It depends on what you mean by 'Master'. The truth is within; we have just forgotten it. The truth is Infinite Love and Oneness. Words alone are not enough. The only way it can be understood is to FEEL it.

It is not as complicated as many would make it appear. People have tried to find ways to assist the seeker in so many different ways over the eons.

I believe that David Icke is just one person who remembers who he is, after having the experience he wrote about in his most recent book.

Call it 'enlightenment', if you like.

It takes a lot of practice/focus/discipline to go beyond some of the 'laws' of this realm. But there is no need to do these things to simply become some sort of magician. There should be a higher purpose for practicing them, if necessary. You can become 'enlightened' before you have learned how to do other things. Those other things aren't important, in a sense. Even non-enlightened people can learn to master the elements, etc.

LOVE

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posted July 13, 2007 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
Connection..to the Divine God MOther and Father Source, is done through very strong desire for the Good of ALL, no is excluded, or looked down upon..as I have said many times here, I live with one foot here on Earth, and one in Heaven..and sometimes, I prefer the latter too much, and have to focus on my physical reality..in the knowledge that is bestowed upon me from God MOther and Father, I am given affirmations, I will not write about anything til I have many affirmations,
On my way home, about 10 minutes ago it was pouring rain, with the Sun shineing brightly, my daughters and I were bless with a double Rainbow, that was so bright and colorful..Rainbows always bring back memories for me of another time/s,
We live on such a beautiful self sustaining planet, and we need to respect it, take care of it, and heal it...To LOve ALL, and to undertake to do all with LOve, no self agenda, no ego, for the ALL for One and One for ALL..not for power, or greed, but to help all sustain life in Goodness, Balance and Harmony....

I LOve you ALL so much, I truly do, I pray for all EveryDay, sending out waves of LOve from Heaven through the Crown to my Heart, and out to ALL. ...

Spinning Rainbows everywhere, hehe

Mwah!

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something I just came across...

REPTILIANS

One of the most unusual species of the extraterrestrial phenomena are the reptilians. The first encounter I had with a reptilian was in my bedroom while my husband was out of town. He came to me as a silhouette of light in the darkness of my room. After many other visits I was finally able to see him. My contact with him continued for 20 years until I found a way to stop it, which was over a year ago. I have had contact with several other alien species since I was 3 years old: The first type was a mammalian, and was followed by greys, grey hybrids, and insectoids. The military is working with them, as well as a humanoid species who came to me at the same time I had encounters with the reptilians.

This page will give you a little information about the different types of reptilians and their possible agendas. My research, through my own experiences and through the people in my support groups have shown me that there are polarities within species; contact and abduction can vary from species to species depending upon their agenda, which serves to further complicate these encounters. Some are able to manipulate time: they are inter-dimensional, able to choose their evolutionary path. My research of the negative ones such as CHUKARA or what you have heard of as DRACO, has led me to understand to some degree, what they want. I believe the physical/sexual encounters through domination of abductees, manifest themselves through mind control and fear. Our emotional adrenaline is like candy, or a drug to them. They can steal this from us by causing us to feel fear, to feel passion, hate, anger and even kill us as they devour the last of our energies feeding from our adrenaline as it pumps throughout every cell of our body as we take our last breaths of life.

The reptilians have been here since the beginning of man or before; there are many relics which depict such beings, perhaps they are mythic gods of our ancient cultures. Ancient Peruvian myth depicts virgins in sacrificial rites to the gods, as this ritual is common in many ancient cultures. In my research I have found there is a definite correlation between some abductee's past life memories, of being sacrificed to the gods. Some regressions recall ceremonial ritual led by a priestly figure; the gods appearing in a reptilian form. The virgins were given to Draco for the sacrifice - they were raped while their adrenaline energy was sucked from them as they lie dying. We have read about virgin sacrifices in the ancient texts, now we have more of the possible morbid details.

At an intimate moment with my partner, a door seemed to open above us in the ceiling. It was as if a very strong energy was whirling above us. I felt like they were taking some of that sexual energy from my partner and myself. In fact there was a time when he and I not only felt their energy, but they seemed to cause my partner and myself to act very odd. As soon as we figured out what was happening we called upon spiritual help and were able to close the door and stop the experience. This has never happened to me since, and I have stopped all abductions in my life and so can you. I continue with my support groups for people who are having these experiences and my hope is that they too can stop these negative experiences and take control of their life as I and many others have done.

Bazaar as it might seem, there are the many cases of women who have on-going relationships with reptilians. This may be very hard to understand, but this does exist, and these women do have a strong connection to what might be referred to as their reptilian lovers. The women remark that it is the best sex they have ever had. There is really no way to explain it, but these experiences seem to be of a positive nature; whether they really are or not, no one knows for sure. Some women have found that the reptilians were not working for their highest good, perhaps this is because of their discovery that they have been subject to mind control or manipulation on the part of the reptilians. This may be an age old system that they are calling back into reality, such as the incubus and succubus and other ancient sexual myths from our recorded history that may not be myths, and were possible even in Eden. They seem to come from a powerful place, yet one of apparent affection. They seem to follow the women through their adult lives and watch over and protect them and sometimes even control their lives and their relationships with men. There are many answers that we are still seeking about why these women are chosen. What is the connection to these women? Are the women being deceived into believing that what is happening to them is good? Is it just another way to control humanity? I do not have these answers, however my investigation will continue until the truth is known. Are they for OUR highest good? We need to understand that if some are, which ones are and which ones are not; this is the big question here. I believe that when this is answered we will then know how to bridge the separation gap between the species.

I believe malevolent reptilians are working in a small secret part of our government. The agendas of the negative and positive reptilians are very different. It is my belief some reptilians are here because they have a strong bond to the human race. Perhaps they are working to absolve bad karma from their past actions, but I am afraid these are in the minority. Most are service to self and do not serve a higher good for humans; their agenda is one of control.

I believe that this group may be the same malevolent extraterrestrial group that have been working behind the scenes CONTROLLING THE WORLD through the Brotherhood. The Brotherhood controls the world today through the banking, business, political and legal systems it has created. The malevolent extraterrestrial group is seeking to take over the planet through the human elite while the people have no idea what is going on. There must be a reason why they cannot just take it over by force; their numbers may not be large enough. Other extraterrestrial races, I believe, are seeking to help humanity to wake up but they won't interfere in our free will, while the malevolent group will; if we allow it. The time may come when we will be manipulated into fearing some extraterrestrial invasion from space.

The extraterrestrials who are working through the Brotherhood will not invade from space.

They are already here.

They have been here since the beginning.

If you are an Experiencer and you would like to talk with me or share you experience please email me at:
submit@think-aboutit.com
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I really feel the Mayan's were/are them, as I have stated already..

*edit to add link... http://www.think-aboutit.com/Reps/reptilians.htm

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Stanley Kubrick was an excellent Director.
Unfortunately, he passed away right after the movie was finished.
There was a double message to the movie; you just have to see between the lines.

i've read that his death was not natural or accidental, and was due in part to his making this film.

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posted July 13, 2007 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
Cruise and Kidman Ruined 'Eyes Wide Shut', Kubrick Told Ermey
5 October 2006 (WENN)
Stanley Kubrick thought his last movie Eyes Wide Shut was a "piece of s**t" that was ruined by interference from its stars Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman, according to actor R. Lee Ermey. Ermey starred in Kubrick's Full Metal Jacket and remained in contact with the legendary film-maker up until his death in 1999. When the pair spoke shortly after Kubrick had completed work on Eyes Wide Shut, Ermey recalls the legendary director expressing his disappointment with the movie. He says, "Stanley called me about two weeks before he died, as a matter of fact. We had a long conversation about Eyes Wide Shut. He told me it was a piece of s**t and that he was disgusted with it and that the critics were going to have him for lunch. He said Cruise and Kidman had their way with him - exactly the words he used. He was kind of a shy little timid guy. He wasn't real forceful. That's why he didn't appreciate working with big, high-powered actors. They would have their way with him, he would lose control, and his movie would turn to s**t." Kubrick died in Hertfordshire, England of natural causes in March 1999.
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if that were the case, David Icke would also be in danger..just like Heart--Shaped Cross mentioned..I think it's mostly babble-babble..

The Truth is Within

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posted July 13, 2007 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for naiad     Edit/Delete Message
i don't mind in the least that you disagree with something that i read quite a while ago. i don't agree with everything i read either... including cover-up stories.

i'm very glad that you have your version of the truth and that you are so happy.

peace and love be with you.

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posted July 13, 2007 09:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
Peace and LOve be with you, and ALL..
Don't want to exclude anyOne

LOve LOve LOve

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posted July 13, 2007 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for naiad     Edit/Delete Message
thanks.

love is everywhere....it's automatically non-exclusive!! nobody can ever exclude anyone from it....

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posted July 13, 2007 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
ah, but words have vibrations and we must all remember that we are all connected, I make a very concentrated effort..to put out into the ethers LOve for all, in my words, and in my thoughts, and in my prayers. ...No One is ever excluded..One Big Happy Family

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posted July 13, 2007 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverstone     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Naiad,

Perhaps he exposed too much in the ritual part of the movie.

Actually, I liked the film; it was a different, authentic film.

Lotus~
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"if that were the case, David Icke would also be in danger..just like Heart--Shaped Cross mentioned..I think it's mostly babble-babble.."

Well, some of it is, as I said I don't agree with all of his theories, but on some his right on target. Those are just my theories. I don't think he's all Babble-babble. Have you read his books, Lotus? Or even researched or experienced any of this? Just curious.

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Cruise and Kidman Ruined 'Eyes Wide Shut', Kubrick Told Ermey
5 October 2006 (WENN)
Stanley Kubrick thought his last movie Eyes Wide Shut was a "piece of s**t" that was ruined by interference from its stars Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman, according to actor R. Lee Ermey. Ermey starred in Kubrick's Full Metal Jacket and remained in contact with the legendary film-maker up until his death in 1999. When the pair spoke shortly after Kubrick had completed work on Eyes Wide Shut, Ermey recalls the legendary director expressing his disappointment with the movie. He says, "Stanley called me about two weeks before he died, as a matter of fact. We had a long conversation about Eyes Wide Shut. He told me it was a piece of s**t and that he was disgusted with it and that the critics were going to have him for lunch. He said Cruise and Kidman had their way with him - exactly the words he used. He was kind of a shy little timid guy. He wasn't real forceful. That's why he didn't appreciate working with big, high-powered actors. They would have their way with him, he would lose control, and his movie would turn to s**t." Kubrick died in Hertfordshire, England of natural causes in March 1999.

That's all crap. They worked on this film with him for over a year and both Nicole and Tom were greatly in awe of his methods, as well as Steven Spieldsberg. Also, Director, Kubrick, was a Leo... hard to say they had their way with him. I think this article mainly went out for attention!


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Between the woods and frozen lake
The darkest evening of the year....
The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.

The woods are lovely, dark, and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep. ~Robert Frost

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posted July 13, 2007 11:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
I am now going to leave your thread Silverstone..I wish you the best, no hard feelings..Happy Trails to you...

LOve and Reverence to ALL. ...

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Lotus... in the artice it says,
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"Some women have found that the reptilians were not working for their highest good"

That's funny, they never do.

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posted July 13, 2007 11:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverstone     Edit/Delete Message
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"I am now going to leave your thread Silverstone"

I never asked you to leave; I'd never ask for someone to leave, and this is not my site. We're all just pointing our views, Lotus; it doesn't mean we are right. Can you have a discussion remaining neutral or without losing your temper?

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Between the woods and frozen lake
The darkest evening of the year....
The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.

The woods are lovely, dark, and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep. ~Robert Frost

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posted July 14, 2007 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverstone     Edit/Delete Message
Listens To trees,

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"The truth is Infinite Love and Oneness."

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Between the woods and frozen lake
The darkest evening of the year....
The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.

The woods are lovely, dark, and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep. ~Robert Frost

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posted July 14, 2007 01:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
It's hard for me to believe that Kubrick was railroaded. From what little I know about him, I think he would have walked off the set and said "to hell with it", before compromising his vision. Thats just how Stanley was. Leo Sun, Scorpio Moon, Libra Ascendant. He took forever to shoot movies, he was such a perfectionist. He was also known for being very difficult. In some behind the scenes footage of the filming of The Shining, you see him yelling at Shelly Duvall. He's really hard on her, not just making her cry but turning her into a nervous wreck, demanding a better performance from her. But that was for the scene, and it was what she needed to give an outstanding performance. I've heard that he is very gentle with other actors, and he directs everyone differently according to what kind of direction he thinks they need. Anyway, I think Stanley would have walked. He developed a holocaust film and a film about Naploeon for years, but abandoned the holocaust film when Schindler's List was made, and postponed the Napoleon film until conditions were perfect. He seemed to have no problem waiting or walking away from projects, no matter how far along they were. He would **** everybody off, and go way overbudget, and still take his sweet, sweet time with every single shot in every single film he ever made. I'm a big fan of his work, too. I would not be surprised if there was foul play surrounding his death on account of that film, though. I did like the movie, but its not one of his best, imo.

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