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Mirandee
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From: South of the Thumb Taurus, Pisces, Cancer
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posted October 09, 2007 09:21 PM
 
I am sorry that you Mom feels that with age one stops learning, Mannu  However, I'm not your mom.  edited to add* I should have titled this thread " Rethinking the song Ripple" because it has more posts than the "Rethinking the Bible" thread. And even more interpretations.  IP: Logged |
juniperb
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posted October 09, 2007 09:21 PM
Mirandee is a closet Dead Head, mystery solved  ------------------
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What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world is immortal"~ - George Eliot IP: Logged |
Mannu
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posted October 09, 2007 09:23 PM
>>>>edited* That was quite rude and condescending what you said about my age, Mannu. My mind is fine. So is my conscience.Sure is Mam. Well no further comments. Will be henceforth sensitive to your feelings. Why dig the past - lets keep it behind.
Looking forward to ur posts. Ok...let me check that song out.
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Mirandee
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posted October 09, 2007 09:25 PM
Juni, Now you got it!!!!! I'm gonna keep on "Truckin" too  IP: Logged |
Mannu
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posted October 09, 2007 09:33 PM
Mind posting the lyric?
I like soft music too.IP: Logged |
fayte.m
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posted October 09, 2007 09:59 PM
Odd..my postings are disappearing again.  ------------------
"Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!"
~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
"My body is physically disabled, but I am not my body nor am I its disabilities!"
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fayte.m
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posted October 09, 2007 10:02 PM
Mirandee said: quote:
I just posted a nice song here. What's all the fuss about?
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If anyone takes my posting a song personally or as an attack I'm sorry you feel that way. But LL is a site which allows for freedom of speech. That means all different thoughts are allowed here at LL. Even a song. 
HUH?????????? No one was offended by your song ma'am.
It was this I had issue with only. quote:
We humans like to make it seem more complicated than it actually is because it makes us look smart.
No issue with your song at all. May I ask why you felt it was about the song?  ------------------
"Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!"
~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
"My body is physically disabled, but I am not my body nor am I its disabilities!"
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silverstone
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posted October 09, 2007 10:04 PM
It was obvious why this thread was started. quote:
juniperb
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posted October 09, 2007 02:13 PM
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Religion or Spirituality is really not all that complicated.... Mirandee
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My experience has taught me that Religion is or can be complicated while Spirituality is not. Just another insight... Juniperb
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Between the woods and frozen lake
The darkest evening of the year....
The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.
The woods are lovely, dark, and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep. ~Robert Frost IP: Logged |
Mirandee
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From: South of the Thumb Taurus, Pisces, Cancer
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posted October 09, 2007 10:04 PM
Those are the lyrics to Ripple that I posted, Mannu. The little intro I gave was all that was mine. Incidently, while I am at it. What I said regarding humans making things more complex regarding spirituality: 1. When I stated " we humans" I would think that anyone could assume that I am including myself along with the rest of humanity since I am a human being. Or a human just being as the case may be. 2. When I was studying theology at the seminary I told my pastor one day, " Spirituality is simple. The Church makes it all so complex." He laughed and said, " Of course we do. That's because we like to make ourselves appear smart." Then he tapped on his chest by his heart and said, " but really it is all about what is in here." When I thought about it there was a lot of sense to his joke about how we people like to complicate things in life. I could see that in so very many aspects of life. We do tend to even complicate our own lives. We make mountains out of molehills. That last remark applies only to our lives so please don't assume I mean anything more than that. Glad you liked the song when you heard it, Mannu. It does sort of simplify it all, don't you think? I like the music too!!! I will make you a Dead Head too, Mannu. LOL That's what they call all the fans of the Grateful Dead. IP: Logged |
fayte.m
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From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat
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posted October 09, 2007 10:04 PM
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I full well know the study of religion is complex having taking 4 years of Theology, Scripture study and the study of religions. I know it is complex having also taught that aspect of it.
Which makes the following a contradiction. quote:
Religion or Spirituality is really not all that complicated.
How would you feel having studied hard those 4 years to be told this: quote:
We humans like to make it seem more complicated than it actually is because it makes us look smart.
Maybe someone insulted you that way? Were you called a know it all smart alec who only studied to look smart? Did someone maybe tell you all your studying was worthless? If so it must have really hurt. 
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What you learn is one thing. Taking it in and making it your own and feeling it in all your being is what spirituality is all about. You can study and know many things. If you don't feel it and live it then it's just a bunch of useless information.
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"Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!"
~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
"My body is physically disabled, but I am not my body nor am I its disabilities!"
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silverstone
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posted October 09, 2007 10:08 PM
Mannu quote:
Mannu
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posted October 09, 2007 05:32 PM
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You are more evolved Solane Star (religious or spiritual or otherwise)- so I'm surprised you think that.
Are you confusing this with forgiving people? Or being peacemakers. Well I think everyone knows every one enough by now. So whats your point?The words of Mirandees first post is indeed egoistic in nature. And very negative. I didn't bother seeing the video link that she provided. Fayte is right in condemning Mirandee. Its a typical "I know it all - attitude."
Whats wrong in having olympics where the only sport allowed is judged on the criteria of "Fastest, Strongest and Highest". You know what I mean. Why doesn't Mirandee refrain from posting in the first place. Or think before she leaps. The end does not justify the means. Nada. I apologize in advance if I misunderstood everyone's intent here.
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Between the woods and frozen lake
The darkest evening of the year....
The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.
The woods are lovely, dark, and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep. ~Robert Frost IP: Logged |
fayte.m
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From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat
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posted October 09, 2007 10:08 PM
Mirandee said: quote:
Beyond that, I don't have to explain my intentions every time I post something at LL anymore than anyone else does.
Some of us do get repeatedly asked to explain our intentions, or feel the need to keep posting disclaimers. It really becomes rather tedious and ridiculous after a point.
Mirandee said: quote:
Randall runs this site. LL is his site. Randall has made it a free speech site where, as long as you don't personally attack people with name calling etc., you can post freely. Anything you want to post.
And yet more attacks were seen today from one. Not mere opinions, but attacks. I expect she will continue to do so. Was she accurately expressing how "you" feel or were those only her opinions on how she believes you feel about me posting? ------------------
"Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!"
~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
"My body is physically disabled, but I am not my body nor am I its disabilities!"
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fayte.m
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posted October 09, 2007 10:10 PM
Mirandee said: quote:
edited to add*I should have titled this thread " Rethinking the song Ripple" because it has more posts than the "Rethinking the Bible" thread. And even more interpretations.
I sincerely was hoping that was not the reason you begain this thread...to counter and subtly insult those of us who desire to study and delve deeper into the study of religion and sprituality rather than going on blind faith'
as we are trying to do on the thread I begain; "RETHINKING THE BIBLE".
However I wonder now if indeed that was your motive for this thread after all.......to say of us there: quote:
We humans like to make it seem more complicated than it actually is because it makes us look smart.
I see no other reason for the mention of my thread and your bragging about your thread...... quote:
I should have titled this thread " Rethinking the song Ripple" because it has more posts than the "Rethinking the Bible" thread. And even more interpretations.
Yeah big funny funny ha ha. Again I wonder how many folks will now be reluctant to post on it because they do not feel free to do so without facing possible ridicule. ------------------
"Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!"
~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
"My body is physically disabled, but I am not my body nor am I its disabilities!"
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fayte.m
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posted October 09, 2007 10:10 PM
Manuu said: quote:
No theres nothing wrong in posting ur thoughts. But u can't kid us. Do you believe in collective consciousness?
Every thought that you think will be known by others. There are no secrets.Be true to yourself what ur true intent was?
Agreed Mannu.
Your other comment is what a dear friend of mine refers to as "The hardening of the Catagories"
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"Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!"
~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
"My body is physically disabled, but I am not my body nor am I its disabilities!"
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silverstone
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posted October 09, 2007 10:11 PM
Fayte  Mannu  Just ignore her, you are wasting your time, seriously... I am going to go bump the other thread~ ------------------
Between the woods and frozen lake
The darkest evening of the year....
The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.
The woods are lovely, dark, and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep. ~Robert Frost IP: Logged |
Solane Star
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posted October 09, 2007 10:16 PM
Good Advice Silverstone!!!Best thing anyone has said all day!!! IP: Logged |
fayte.m
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posted October 09, 2007 10:22 PM
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1. When I stated " we humans" I would think that anyone could assume that I am including myself along with the rest of humanity since I am a human being. Or a human just being as the case may be.2. When I was studying theology at the seminary I told my pastor one day, " Spirituality is simple. The Church makes it all so complex." He laughed and said, " Of course we do. That's because we like to make ourselves appear smart."
Well that does explain very well your attitude and feelings on the issue. quote:
We humans like to make it seem more complicated than it actually is because it makes us look smart.
I guess I am "NOT HUMAN" after all!
I do not study to look smart or feel smart.
In fact the more I know or learn the more I know I have much much much more to learn and shall endeavor to learn forever and not suffer "The Hardening of the Catagories"!
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"Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!"
~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
"My body is physically disabled, but I am not my body nor am I its disabilities!"
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Mannu
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posted October 09, 2007 10:27 PM
Silverstone,
Yeah, will try. You guys got Dean's blessing to go ahead. Thats all that counts. He is the Lord of this forum
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Solane Star
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posted October 09, 2007 10:30 PM
See Fayte, it just goes to show that you have an axe to grind still here with Mirandee, you never freaking stop!Thats the point again! IP: Logged |
fayte.m
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posted October 09, 2007 10:32 PM
See you folks over there! 
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"Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!"
~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
"My body is physically disabled, but I am not my body nor am I its disabilities!"
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Solane Star
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posted October 09, 2007 10:36 PM
Thanks for stopping by, it's been a pleasure!!!IP: Logged |
NAM
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posted October 09, 2007 10:46 PM
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Dulce Luna
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posted October 09, 2007 11:00 PM
Oh, I think its pretty F-ing ridiculous that some people turn around and do the very thing they themselves complain about being done against them. And I'm speaking of 'being persecuted' mainly but I'm not even talking solely of this thread...I've read the 'Religion' thread and the 'Rethinking Bible' one too: talk about "tolerance".  . I guess people really should've taken their own advice: if you found the O.P's opinion offensive then just turn the other cheek and walk away instead of stirring up trouble on her thread . Simple, end of rant.IP: Logged |
Lialei
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posted October 09, 2007 11:03 PM
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Fayte Mannu
Just ignore her, you are wasting your time, seriously...
 No it's not good, Solane. You know....regardless of how she comes off here as tough or jokes things away, she does have feelings. In no way has anything she's said here deserved that.
Everyone re-read. Just what's going on? IP: Logged |
Lialei
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posted October 09, 2007 11:04 PM
Fayte, just as much as you might feel afraid to post, so does she. Because this happens all too frequently. Everytime the remark is meant to portray her character badly in some way. To get others to question her character. Or make her out to be some Christian Bully, which as a life-long non-Christian myself, I can tell you as her daughter, is in no way true. We never even went to church when I was a kid. Everything was left to my own speculation and exploration. My induction to Christianity was "Jesus Christ Superstar". Frankly, the bible bores me, but I respect all differences of interest...and here and there do read and find some treasures in it myself.
It's just discussions. So, discuss. It's not a big deal. I can't bear the hostility here anymore.
Dividing camps...banding together...forming alliances in mutual hatreds. Digs and more digs. (anyone paying half-attention?) It's really distressing.
Disillusioning. I'm seeing a lot of things these days in a clearer, much different light. Maybe, it someone has been enduringly kind, give them the benefit of the doubt if they are once human. Try to understand.
We're all human for christ sake.
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