posted October 10, 2007 04:57 PM         

Good. So you are just sharing ur opinions as others are.

>>>What post?
Mirandee's first post.

>>>>When you say that it didnt come out right, and you should have explained, it sounds like you are saying I am right.
No u are still wrong. When you address a person in the beginning of a letter or any of your posts, please remember that you want only that person to act/react. For instance I addressed Solane Star and not you or Fayte or Mirandee. Its common etiquette while we write letters to each other. Thats one of thing I want to be published in LL by some one good in english like Mirandee or perhaps even you.

>>>far cry from telling me I am no longer in touch with the unconscious. Sounds like I hit the nail on the head after all.
Please read my response above.

posted October 10, 2007 04:58 PM         

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Fayte - Love you baby - Nothing escapes your eyes. Its a gift too.

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I did not defend you when HSC disagreed with you, figured I'd leave it between you two.
However...
I like to believe that I totally understand where you are coming from on this thread.
At least I think I do...
Like the phrase from my CHRISTIAN MINISTER friend of 10 years to date uses.....
"Hardening of the Categories".
You described the concept very well in reference to your mom. Unlike Mirandee's assumptions of what it means. You said

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I tease my mom all the time till the point of her breaking down. And then I tell her - atleast learn something and die. It hurts her. But I love her very much. Hope she doesn't mind. Do you? At one point she says "Oh am I supposed to learn at this age?". I tell her. "Yes. Never stop learning.". She says "I can't". Then I say sarcastically "Then Die.".

Perhaps, this won't make sense. "Be the change to see the change." I know I know.

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What Fayte is suggesting from something that she has read is that because I studied theology and scripture I am brain washed.

That is a simplified way of explaining what is meant by "hardening of the categories." Because Fayte ( along with some others here at LL) think they are the only ones who question and who have an open mind.

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I just posted a nice song here. What's all the fuss about?

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posted October 10, 2007 05:09 PM         

Lets have a rule to always address your posts as much as u can :

All,

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or

Everyone,
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Means that your post is addressed to all. So be prepared to receive responses from anyone. Even if u consider them as ur enemy.

Make it a habit to address each post. Be specific of who you want that post addressed to. Is it just for one person or for everyone?

Not every post is meant for everyone else.

For example:

HSC,

Hows it going.

posted October 10, 2007 05:10 PM         

It means you are shouting. And people don't like to be shouted at.

posted October 10, 2007 05:20 PM         

or /Quote]

So that People can distinguish ur words from quotes of others.

posted October 10, 2007 05:30 PM         

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Fayte,

I missed that post by Mirandee.
Yes, I think she was wrong.

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Lia didnt single you out,
and its hard to know what she thinks of you.

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posted October 10, 2007 05:34 PM         

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Use all caps letter with care.

It means you are shouting. And people don't like to be shouted at.

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posted October 10, 2007 05:41 PM         

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Guys...i have a hard time switching tabs between work and LL. Hope I edited most of the grammatical mistakes

I have met some cool folks who first opens up notepad and then type what they want to say before posting it.
It also allows them to save their posts in case LL is behaving funny.

posted October 10, 2007 05:44 PM         

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On the subject of Mannu's coherance, I'd have to say that his communication is quite a bit on the vague side. A point is always implied, but trying to define that point is difficult.

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posted October 10, 2007 06:30 PM         

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Good. So you are just sharing ur opinions as others are.

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Yes, except that, unlike some people,
I give reasons to support my opinions.
Then I dialogue with people,
and discuss the reasons in support of
our differing points of view,
instead of just saying "you are wrong"
and making a fast getaway.

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When you address a person in the beginning of a letter or any of your posts, please remember that you want only that person to act/react. For instance I addressed Solane Star and not you or Fayte or Mirandee. Its common etiquette while we write letters to each other.

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We are not supposed to respond to posts adressed to another person on a public messageboard??? Does anyone observe this rule? So, Mannu, if I wanted to, I could direct a post to AG, and say all sorts of rude things about you (not that I would), knowing that I am posting them where everyone can (and will) see them, and you would be unable to respond, according to your own acknowledged rules of etiquette? Or are there exceptions?

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Please read my response above.

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Your above response says only that I should not have responded to you at all, because you adressed yourself to Solane. Is that what I'm supposed to reread? So, basically, that is your excuse for saying what you like without having to explain yourself?
Does anyone buy this?

posted October 10, 2007 07:45 PM         

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We are not supposed to respond to posts adressed to another person on a public messageboard??? Does anyone observe this rule? So, Mannu, if I wanted to, I could direct a post to AG, and say all sorts of rude things about you (not that I would), knowing that I am posting them where everyone can (and will) see them, and you would be unable to respond, according to your own acknowledged rules of etiquette? Or are there exceptions?

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The basic gist is - outside all of us are different so conflicts abound.
So any approach that minimizes the conflict outside should be adopted.
The spirit of the approach must be that inside we are all connected to one another.

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Your above response says only that I should not have responded to you at all, because you adressed yourself to Solane. Is that what I'm supposed to reread? So, basically, that is your excuse for saying what you like without having to explain yourself?
Does anyone buy this?

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AG,
That thread was supposed to neutralize the atmosphere. It took different turns with one of the reason being what I quoted above. No name calling because its so many days past and it does not make sense to hold grudge. I know i could have addressed their concerns or they mine if I continued there. I chose not to because I didn't wanted that thread to go in that direction.

Hope that clarifies.

Words means differently to different people. Lets say you go to Jesus and ask him enlighten me. He can give u energy and make u enlightened. But it won't last long. You have to evolve in your own way. So lets say instead of giving you energy he says "AG, Sit". What will be ur reaction?
You don't have to share - just do a mental excercise with complete understanding.

Oh man, you won't believe this I have been so engaged here I am behind my schedule.

Later folks.

posted October 10, 2007 08:42 PM         

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To continue......

Then Dulce Luna jumps into the fray of which she knows nothing about.....

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What do you mean? I'm not concerned about whatever personal BS you and Mirandee have with eachother, I was just commenting in general on what I see as a big double standard around here that I'm sick and tired of. But gee, seeing as there really is more personal shiite beneath all this, maybe I should've just stayed away from this thread.

posted October 10, 2007 08:57 PM         

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BlueRoamer
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posted October 10, 2007 03:15 PM
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I just thought that the post looked emotional, and that it looked like an assault based on personal vendetta rather than on the content of the post itself.

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BlueRoamer
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From: Calm Blue Ocean, Calm Blue Ocean
Registered: Jun 2003
posted October 10, 2007 03:48 PM

What I see is that you're lashing out at people, then acting like Jesus on the cross when they lash back.

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posted October 10, 2007 09:08 PM         

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posted October 10, 2007 05:32 PM
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On the subject of Mannu's coherance, I'd have to say that his communication is quite a bit on the vague side. A point is always implied, but trying to define that point is difficult. That manner of speech could be intentional. It must be nice to always be able to slip out of or elude the implied [but never specified in exact terms] point.

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I never have any problems understanding Mannu... I like that he makes his points and leaves it alone and later disengages, without the need to continue defending himself writing novels and so on!

posted October 10, 2007 09:25 PM         

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Fayte you're not being sarcastic with me are you??

I do actually love you, I welcome your posts and point of view, I just feel that your tone is a bit harsh sometimes. Perhaps this is just your posting style, I will try to be more open minded.

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BlueRoamer dear..if I hated you, you would know because I would actually tell you so.
I generally do not pussy foot.
Also take note...I usually come right out after being sarcastic and say..."yes, that was sarcasm". I try my best to be clear even when using sarcasm.

posted October 10, 2007 09:38 PM         

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Words means differently to different people. Lets say you go to Jesus and ask him enlighten me. He can give u energy and make u enlightened. But it won't last long. You have to evolve in your own way. So lets say instead of giving you energy he says "AG, Sit". What will be ur reaction?
You don't have to share - just do a mental excercise with complete understanding.

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This illustrates the point I made. You want your definition of "listening children" to mean something different than what it does, but you couldn't even define the what it was that you were wanting me to understand.

The example of the word "enlightenment" and how that word can be understood doesn't make your point. Mostly because if you look the term up you would find that the definition you chose - to make physically lighter or more energetic - is not the definition. The definitions are:

1. to give intellectual or spiritual light to; instruct; impart knowledge to: We hope the results of our research will enlighten our colleagues.
2. Archaic. to shed light upon.

1. To give spiritual or intellectual insight to: "Enlighten the people generally, and tyranny and oppression of body and mind will vanish like evil spirits at the dawn of day" (Thomas Jefferson).
2. To give information to; inform or instruct.

1. make understand; "Can you enlighten me--I don't understand this proposal"
2. give spiritual insight to; in religion
3. make free from confusion or ambiguity; make clear; "Could you clarify these remarks?"; "Clear up the question of who is at fault"

posted October 10, 2007 09:44 PM         

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I just feel that your tone is a bit harsh sometimes.

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posted October 10, 2007 09:45 PM         

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Like DL thinking I am so terrible. Perhaps she missed my posts on honesty and clarity, and the thread I was initially unjustly attacked on. Did you miss them too? Anyhow...Then folks get on band wagons and take sides without knowing what has gone down throughout LL, let alone the back stories.

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posted October 10, 2007 09:52 PM         

I think the tone I'm referring to has to do with short punchy sentences, which to me seem a bit "curt." Bolded text makes me think of a raised voice. But again this is just your posting style, and it is probably not your intention to be curt. I may be the only one who perceives it this way. I think you are just getting your truth across in the way that you find most efficient for you. I know scorpios are known for laying the truth out in a blunt or even devastating way, and I appreciate this quality in them.