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Topic: The Book of Revelation--God's Wrath
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 39235 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 22, 2012 10:10 AM
People make out God to be the gumball fairy or Santa Claus. The God of the Bible is neither.He is the Creator. You are the creation.There will be a time when God's wrath will be poured out onto the world. You can see the seeds of the unrest which will lead up to it. The Tribulation will begin when the man called the Antichrist( in common parlance) will sign a peace treaty with Israel. Then, she will live safely, next to all her enemies. If you see this man of GREAT charm and charisma come on the scene and sign this peace treaty, the Tribulation has begun. There will be 3 and a half years of unprecedented peace. Then, will come 3 and a half years of wrath such as man has never known. These are the Bowl judgements and the Trumpets. God promises not to pour out his wrath on those who believe in Him, as He is, not as people make Him up to be. The Rapture is the next event in Biblical history. I say this for people's edification, not to fight. I will not respond to any posts which I deem as trying to start a fight. I will respond to real, honest questions, if you have any.
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RegardesPlatero Moderator Posts: 4367 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted September 22, 2012 10:14 AM
That is one interpretation.I just found this neat site. It's really convenient. It's little flash cards that give the different interpretations of Revelation, in clear, simple, easy-to-read, short-and-to-the-point form. Just thought it might be helpful and useful: http://quizlet.com/12064378/revelation-interpretations-flash-cards/ Obviously, there's more to these definitions than what's on these cards, but the flashcards are a good starting point, especially for non-Christians here.
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mercuranian Knowflake Posts: 745 From: uranus Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 22, 2012 12:28 PM
the trumpets are our chakras. when they open in succession in divine timing for each of us, we merge with our Christ conciousness. IP: Logged |
iQ Moderator Posts: 4243 From: Chennai, India Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 22, 2012 02:51 PM
The Book of Revelation has many interpretations. Mercuranian has given one of the best.My main doubts about it are the timelines and the Anti-Christ. How can we objectively identify the AntiChrist ? Israel has already signed so many treaties for its safety, so this treaty has to be something radically new. And what country would represent "Babylon" as per this book? The description looks like USA but paradoxically, the USA has the maximum number of non-Catholic Bible Adherents. Ergo, the Book of Revelation events cannot occur unless and until Christianity is not practiced in USA. This could take hundreds of years. Unless, the Book plays out on an individual level only, just as Mercuranian said. Babylon could be the Ego, the Beast is Man's beastly nature, the Scarlet ***** being lower chakra desires and so on. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 39235 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 22, 2012 03:49 PM
You can tell this peace treaty is different and totally unique as it will be the only time in Israels history where she can live in peace, free from attack. I am talking about Israel as a country, not her history as the Jewish people, where she is called "Israel" in the Bible. The Anti Christ has enough distinguishing characteristics that one will know when he comes on the scene. However, most scholars believe that the people who WILL know i.e. those who know Bible Prophecy, will be gone in the Rapture. So, we will not be here to tell you about it. However, in these days, there will be the 144, 000 Jews who will be a witness to all the world.
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 39235 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 22, 2012 04:00 PM
IQ There are some symbols, for sure. However, the first rule in Bible Prophecy is to go for the earthbound and obvious answer. In some cases, there are symbols. However, one must not go directly to that if there is an earthbound answer.If you do, you will have mush. The Bible is very clear and very specific as to actual time and place and events. The reason people feel it is so hard to understand is that they make mush out of it. ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Padre35 Knowflake Posts: 871 From: charlotte, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012
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posted September 23, 2012 08:45 AM
Ahh, Revelations, the sort of tool in the tool box of organized religion to keep sincere believers from actually applying the scriptures."666"-Nero "7 hills"- interestingly enough, Istanbul, has 7 hills It should be mentioned that the tribulation very well could have been the persecutions under the Romans, and that the Church overcame them. If one bothers to look into the conditions of the faith at the point in time one can easily make the comparison in a "earth bound" way. Beheadings, fed to lions etc, many falling away from the faith including several early Christian writers. No mind though, keep those eyes up on the sky, buy yet another book espousing this, and never bother to test the spirit of all things..that would be "mushy". IP: Logged |
Lei_Kuei Moderator Posts: 868 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 23, 2012 08:52 AM
There is hope for you yet Padre Looks like you are going to be stuck on Earth with rest of us! @mercuranian: ------------------ ~*~ Did you know that a circle is round? ~*~ - Tautology You can't handle my level of Tinfoil! ~ {;,;} IP: Logged |
Padre35 Knowflake Posts: 871 From: charlotte, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012
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posted September 23, 2012 09:02 AM
Not so much, I do have faith in what the Scriptures have to say, however, I also know the nature of people. Whether they wear a pastor's suit or not, whether they write books or not. This subject is used to distract from the rest of what the Scriptures have to say in terms of how to actually BE a Christian. I do think it telling that it is said "if it is not in the Bible, then it is not true" yet supplementary books are sold to tell people their view on the Bible. A conundrum to say the least. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 39235 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 23, 2012 09:03 AM
Nope All end time Prophecy counts down from 1948 when Israel was born ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Padre35 Knowflake Posts: 871 From: charlotte, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012
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posted September 23, 2012 09:08 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Nope All end time Prophecy counts down from 1948 when Israel was born
Uhm, yeah, so the awful horror in the temple is on it's way..save for there is no temple for it to show up in.. Or was that when the Romans set up a statute of the Emperor and sacrificed pigs on the alter in the pre 100 AD period? IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 5807 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 23, 2012 09:18 AM
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This subject is used to distract from the rest of what the Scriptures have to say in terms of how to actually BE a Christian I do think it telling that it is said "if it is not in the Bible, then it is not true" yet supplementary books are sold to tell people their view on the Bible. A conundrum to say the least
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juniperb Moderator Posts: 5807 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 23, 2012 09:44 AM
Gospel of Thomas:(39) Jesus said, "The pharisees and the scribes have taken the keys of knowledge (gnosis) and hidden them. They themselves have not entered, nor have they allowed to enter those who wish to. You, however, be as wise as serpents and as innocent as doves." ------------------ We dance around the ring and suppose, but the secret sits in the middle and Knows Robert Frost IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 39235 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 23, 2012 09:51 AM
Thomas is not in the Bible *sigh*------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 39235 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 23, 2012 09:55 AM
I only deal with what is in the pages of the Bibl, not extra-biblical books.In those, I agree, you can find anything. I don't concern myself with them and they are not germane to my discussion, so I will not address them, again. If anyone wants to talk about what is inside the ACTUAL pages of the Bible, I will be back. ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Lei_Kuei Moderator Posts: 868 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 23, 2012 10:09 AM
quote: I only deal with what is in the pages of the Bible, not extra-biblical books.
You limit your horizons Ami, if you pardon my saying so -nods- @Juni: I agree, so much wisdom in such a small document! ------------------ ~*~ Did you know that a circle is round? ~*~ - Tautology You can't handle my level of Tinfoil! ~ {;,;}
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juniperb Moderator Posts: 5807 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 23, 2012 10:10 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Thomas is not in the Bible *sigh*
He most assuredly is . His Works were left out.
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Lei_Kuei Moderator Posts: 868 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 23, 2012 10:21 AM
quote: His Works were left out.
I cant decide whether I'm happy about that or not, considering my general disdain for that Judaic-Tome -smirk- But if its inclusion would have thwarted the Spanish Inquisition... well Id be all for it ------------------ ~*~ Did you know that a circle is round? ~*~ - Tautology You can't handle my level of Tinfoil! ~ {;,;} IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 39235 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 23, 2012 10:41 AM
OK If anyone wants to talk about what is inside the pages of the Bible( the normally accepted one i.e the King James etc, I will come back and answer. ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Padre35 Knowflake Posts: 871 From: charlotte, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012
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posted September 23, 2012 10:58 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: OK If anyone wants to talk about what is inside the pages of the Bible( the normally accepted one i.e the King James etc, I will come back and answer.
Certainly, including what was being alluded to in those pages. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 39235 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 23, 2012 12:37 PM
quote: Originally posted by Padre35: Certainly, including what was being alluded to in those pages.
I am not doing this for my ego. I am not doing this to prove something to myself. I am trying to teach people about the End Times according to the Bible( as it exists as defined in that one book, no extra biblical works) I think there are people who want to know what it has to say, so that is why I started this thread. Nothing more. Nothing less *sigh* ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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juniperb Moderator Posts: 5807 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 23, 2012 12:40 PM
We know Matthew and John were two of Jesus the Christ's Twelve Disciples. Luke was not one of the disciples but a gentile who accompanied Paul on some of his travels. Mark was a Jew who converted to Christianity and evangelized with Paul, Barnabus, Timothy and others. Those 12 disciples mentioned included Thomas. If two non Disciples, who never met or heard Jesus speak, make the Holy Bible, how can we throw away Thomas and keep Luke and Marks writings as gospel?? What criteria did they use (Nicene Council) to omit Thomas and embrace Mark & Luke. Shouldn`t we include Thomas on the premise he was a disciple?? ------------------ We dance around the ring and suppose, but the secret sits in the middle and Knows Robert Frost IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 5807 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 23, 2012 12:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: I am not doing this for my ego. I am not doing this to prove something to myself. I am trying to teach people about the End Times according to the Bible( as it exists as defined in that one book, no extra biblical works)I think there are people who want to know what it has to say, so that is why I started this thread. Nothing more. Nothing less *sigh*
I sincerely know you are NOT doing this for ego. But as a teaching to the end times. That on the other hand, is what we are offering as well. A further look at the Bible , what was omitted vs. what was kept to round out/complete the story. ------------------ We dance around the ring and suppose, but the secret sits in the middle and Knows Robert Frost IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 39235 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 23, 2012 12:50 PM
First of all Jesus came to Paul. However, the student of the Bible, such as myself, has studied prophecy for over 15 years. I have seen the supernatural workings if the Bible. I trust every, single word from the first to the last. If God wanted another book in there, it would be in there. God made the Bible, through Divine Inspiration. That is good enough for me to trust Him, as He created me, and not vice-versa.I suppose one has to study the Bible enough, for oneself, to get to this point. This is the point where I am. I just want to tell people what I know when I am led. What they do with it, is out of my control, but I am called to tell it, at times. Then, I do. ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 39235 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 23, 2012 12:53 PM
Well, Juni, I am not going to change what I think about the Bible. I want to teach anyone who wants to learn what the Bible, as it exists cover to cover--only--has to say, as the world is going mad.I feel called to offer this. That is it. ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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