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MyVirgoMask
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posted February 20, 2009 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
"....but if he is interested, he's wicked frickin lazy."

And that about sums it up. Meanwhile, all this energy is getting invested in trying to decode things, and he's not putting energy in.
I realize most of my posts are getting ignored because I'm not playing along here, but I'm just trying to save you some heartache by telling you that the only way to see if he's going to try is to *make* him do the work by either being more direct in your communication, or just plain leaving it be and seeing what he does.

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posted February 21, 2009 12:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message
I agree, I've learned from being around my virgo mom and having a virgo moon myself that they do respond much better to directness than dancing around the issue. I know that's not easy for a cancer (being one myself) but its the only way, hon. :-\ Otherwise it'll keep going on like this.


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Dulce, can you tell us the story of the ex-Scorpio?

Well I don't want to turn this into novel but I'll make a long story short: I met the guy in 2004 while during the highschool days and things seemed to be progressing from friendss to 'talking' until we had a fall-out. Being in the fall out was not the difficult part, it was who was gonna wave the white flag first and call the truce. At the risk of turning this into a biography, once again, lets just say even after he called the truce...a dancearound like this one continued for like almost a year. Why? In my mind, I wanted something more formal, I wanted him to call me and tell me he was sorry, I didn't want to hear it through my friend. So while I did appreciate it, I didn't really feel he was that interested anymore if he couldn't phone me himself.

And even during the year up to us FINALLY getting together, I would hear him asking about me, how he felt, etc. through a mutual third party but how he acted towards me totally contradicted that. Action-wise, he was VERY passive...alot like GG's virgo. Looking back on it, he seemed to think attracting me would be enough for me to come to him (and I blame the fact that his venus opposed my mars). Only at the time, I didn't see that...all I heard in my head at the time is that 'he isn't into me' and since I don't like to chase, I was pretty passive myself. I don't know what happened in December of '05 but I think maybe his brother knocked some sense into him (God bless those Taureans ) and he asked me out. We went out for two years and while we had our great times, insecurities/jealousy was an issue. It didn't end too well in 2007, but it was for the better.


I've gone through like 3 guys since then (A Gemini, a Leo, and an ??? sign (??? one couldn't really happen for certain reasons which sucked because I'm the most attached to him ). None of these love interest-thingys lasted, but through them I realized through them "Ah, this is how its suppose to go!". Courtship should not be so damn complicated in my 20's now and neither should relating. It seems these days, I've attracted guys who have no problem being nice to me or openly showing me affection. And because of that, I haven't had much problem showing it in return. I like it.


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posted February 21, 2009 01:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Man, Oh man, Dulce....I hate the runaround stuff. I was having 'something' going with double Taurus with Cancer rising last year only, and I held out for 4 months that felt like an ETERNITY...OK, granted, I have an Aries moon, but I am a Taurus rising and Mars and I have a lot of endurance, and that ceaseless side-stepping and dancing around the subject infuriated me! I had dropped hints - flirtatious one - before, and then just abandoned hope.
I knew he was interested, but he was 'lazy', and way too distracted. And it made me think, what kind of lover would this be? He's actually mulling things over about ME and being lazy???? This might sound egotistical, but I think I'm a pretty great person, and I have a lot to offer
Only when he found out I was leaving the country (a decision I made out of the blue) did he really leap into action - which pi$$ed me off even more, knowing he was interested the WHOLE time, and had done NOTHING. I still get emails about his regrets about how he handled things, but that is the last time I get into a situation like that.
It drains the life out of love!

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GrlyGirl,

So far I had been absolutely certain that you were partly to blame for his aloofness because he just mirrored YOUR aloofness. However, reading the phone conversation, i'm sorry to say, but I think I was wrong in my judgment. I completly agree with Lucia's take on the situation. My gut feeling was instantly that this guy isn't interested in you. I'm sure we can toss and turn this or that comment, blame it on you not accurately recalling the conversation or blaming his non-response on his stress level. But I have seen playing games behaviour, I have also seen shy behaviour or lazy/passive behaviour, in the context of being interest. And to me the overhwelming impression was that isn't what's going on here. He just seems completly indifferent....even in a friendship. The 'I'm glad you called' is just a social politenss and I have to agree with Lucia in her prediction that this guy will string you along till never never land without sending you clear 'I'm not interested' signals. I also think that contrary to my intial assumption that you just didnt show you are interested, I think your interest comes through in subtle ways, but must be quite clear for him to see. So for him to not take you up on any of your suggestions and even tell you to 'date the guy' (in the context of this conversation) is quite clear that he isnt playing the shy maiden, but it's his indirect, upside down way of hinting he isnt interested. I really hope I'm wrong here and I hope you remember how strongly I was trying for you to make a more direct move with him. I'd now seriously suggest to cut your losses and not invest another minute in this guy, it's a wast of your time and energy.

All the best.

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posted February 21, 2009 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message
MVM, I'm totally with you there. I dropped some pretty big hints too, AND I even told him online (I'm not sure that counts though). Thats pretty rotten though that your Taurus only got his act together AFTER you left. *shakes head*

But yes, it is pretty draining when someone is so passive and expects you to come to them ALWAYS.

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posted February 21, 2009 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for emma_duncan     Edit/Delete Message
oh well in that case girlygirl..when u hv given him enough room to be comforatble and he is beinga jerk then!

just write him off
move on
and when he calls just tell him u dont have time for him....u hv better things to do....who cares for a guy like that....u r young and the world awaits YOU.....

dont give him much thought ...move on before it becomes hard and hurtful to move on

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posted February 21, 2009 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
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and when he calls just tell him u dont have time for him....u hv better things to do.

I have to disagree with this. I think it's very unlikely that he'll call...if he does call, especially to ask you somewhere, it means he IS interested. If I were you, I would graciously say "Yes!" in that situation...it might mean that he was just a little slow-on-the-uptake when you called (Taurus Moon), but figured out that you were interested. I wouldn't reject him for that.

If he does NOT call, I agree to write him off...unless some of the people here who are better at this sort of thing can figure out a way to get him interested.

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posted February 21, 2009 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for emma_duncan     Edit/Delete Message
i mean if he calls to chit chat....and give mixed signals and not to tell him off if he calls to say "I AM INTERSETED"
cz he will never do the RIGHT signal call..atleast from the info presented here....and in my personal experience continue taking mixed signal calls will hurt her...so she just needs to tell him to buzz off and explore other oppotunities...hey life is short, youth is even shorter and we shld not waste it on mixed signal and take them graciously...hell with mixed signal guys who cares

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posted February 21, 2009 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgOh     Edit/Delete Message
You can't talk like that with a Virgo, you have to be so full of confidence and of yourself, you can't say things like "You dont even have my number" "So thats why you dont call" that's automatically being processed in his mind as clingy behavior and we dont like that s**t.

At the same time, you can't call him to tell him you want to take some other guy out, I mean even if he liked you, that will just blow it and he'll lose interest.

Then you say I dont want a BF and we should hang out in the same sentence, I mean wtf, can it get more confusing than that?

I dont agree with LL, I dont think he is into you, one thing he said proves it too: As a Virgo, the last thing I'd tell a female I am into is: "You should date this guy" and If I was into her and she dared say something like I am taking some loser out I'd literally hang up the phone in her face and she can go scram with her homo.

But that's just me

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posted February 21, 2009 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
I think if he calls AT ALL after their last talk, even to do mixed-signal chit-chat, it's a sign of GREAT interest from him.

And I think he won't ever call. Hope I'm wrong.

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hey life is short, youth is even shorter and we shld not waste it on mixed signal and take them graciously...hell with mixed signal guys who cares

I wish I agreed, but sometimes a mixed-signal guy is who we're most attracted to...not BECAUSE his signals are mixed, but sometimes he's the most beautiful, talented, brilliant, exciting guy you know, and he has gorgeous manly hands, and out of all the guys you've ever seen, he's the one you most wanna touch.

Life is too short NOT to figure out how to get the guy you're most attracted to to be very, very into you. That's why I find this stuff sooo frustrating. It's easy to attract guys you aren't interested in, in my experience...harder when real, intense attraction is involved.

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posted February 21, 2009 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgOh     Edit/Delete Message
I am betting he would never call.

If he does I will literally FEDEX a carton of hot dogs to LARA ... With mustard.

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posted February 21, 2009 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
VirgOh, what are your suggestions for how to attract a Virgo man?

If he's not interested, how could a girl intrigue him or change his mind?

Your tone sounds a little like you're HAPPY the guy seems not-interested, which isn't very nice.

My best Virgo guy friend in college was always (and only) falling in love with other people's girlfriends--he even "stole" the girl he finally married--but I don't think that's a Virgo thing. It was just his thing.

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posted February 21, 2009 11:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message
virgooh- youre hilarious...lol its true though..you cant play games with virgo men...

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posted February 21, 2009 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgOh     Edit/Delete Message
On the contrary Iam not happy about her situation I kinda sympathize with her and no it isn't a Virgo thing to steal someone else's woman, there are exceptions of course.

You can't intrigue or seduce a Virgo period, we are too in love with our own image to even notice it, rest assured If he had made his mind about her then there is nothing she can do, it is so easy to discard people in Virgo's case specially if she isn't his type.

She needs to up her game, show him that she is not interested yet constantly make herself visible, she needs to stop being all over him when they talk, she must not show any sign of clinginess, you dont understand what a turn off that is, she should be confident not all hesitant and worried what if he doesn't like her or what if he isn't interested it is his loss anyway cause obviously she likes him a lot, she needs to change her way of thinking, Virgo men are extremely particular when they fish for females, unlike other men, we dont just go for whatever is available out there that's why we can stay single for years waiting on that one perfect female and once we find her we go all out after her, if we dont get her it becomes a catastrophe.

Bottomline, there is no challenge here, I bet you anything Virgo dude already figured that out, that's why he is asking her to go date that other guy.

I also noticed she said he has his Venus in Libra (I have my venus in libra too) which translates to a Virgo male who is into classy intelligent women but not too formal, sophisticated, HARD TO PLEASE, which means CHALLENGE but not in a violent or rude way, we love harmony but it gets too boring therefore we always try to stir things up and passively instigate conflict, again, CHALLENGE.

Do you see a pattern?

Good luck!!

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posted February 21, 2009 11:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for emma_duncan     Edit/Delete Message
OMG
who cares abt virgo guys....i hope they stay single forever...lol....(no offense i hv venus and mercury in virgo)

it seems like lot of effort....eh...they r not worth it......hey date some nice leo man ...leo ares great

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posted February 21, 2009 11:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks, VirgOh...seems like very apt info on Virgo men.

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posted February 21, 2009 11:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Virgoh- whats are your other placements? i like your thoughts on this topic. Moon/mars/asc? please. thanks.

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posted February 21, 2009 11:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Words of wisdom, VirgOh. You know your stuff, and it's very true about Virgo males. Virgo anything prefers directness and authenticity first and foremost. And if you play, you'd best know what you're doing and do it very well, because Virgo sees through just about anything.

Venus in Libra males like a somewhat high-maintenance woman.
Oh, and what's his Mars in?

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posted February 21, 2009 11:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
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hey date some nice leo man ...leo ares great

Heh, Emma! Leos are hard to get, but we're not IMPOSSIBLE to get. And Leo men will pursue a girl they're interested in.

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posted February 22, 2009 12:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Ok, his Mars is in Capricorn.
He won't be elusive if he's going after you.

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posted February 22, 2009 12:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
I love Leo males, they're awesome. And upfront

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posted February 22, 2009 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgOh     Edit/Delete Message
ASC: Sag
Moon: Scorp
Venus: Libra
Mars: Taurus
Mercury: Virgo

Big kiss MVM, how u been gurrrl!?

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posted February 22, 2009 12:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for emma_duncan     Edit/Delete Message
oh now dont get me started on scorpios
i hv reasons to roll my eyes here....

i will just keep my silence here

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posted February 22, 2009 12:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Not bad, VirgOh, not too bad at all!
Miss seeing you on here

Any news on the Taurus front?

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posted February 22, 2009 12:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgOh     Edit/Delete Message
I am glad It's over, it was never meant to be, she is one big fake.

I've shifted my attention towards a very hot Virgo female and she plays my game better than me lol.

Good to see you honey

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