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GrlyGirl20
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posted January 29, 2009 02:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message
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9/26?? hes not a virgo. hes a libra.

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posted January 29, 2009 02:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Yep. He's a Libra. With a moon in Taurus. That's what'll drive you crazy. These guys do NOT drop their guards for a looooong time. They do not make sudden moves, and they do rush into anything. They move very, very VERY slowly because they're constantly second-guessing themselves. And the Libra Sun won't help either, because they tend to go back and forth...

You poor thing, you sound like you're exactly in the same situation I was in 6 months ago...he's lucky I didn't strangle him

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posted January 29, 2009 03:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
God does he ever sound like a Taurus moon!
I've never dated a Virgo male, which I think is strange, considering I am a Virgo. But I do know that they get a little freaked out by emotion...unsure of how to handle it, how to process it, etc.

I'm currently working and can't look anything up right this second, but do you happen to know what sign his Mars is in?

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the evasivenss might also be his neptune in the 1st, bit like a pisces ascendnat.

Having said that....why do you tell him about the guys you are dating???&%$!"?%&??? Sorry, but if I were him, I also wouldnt put too much effort into you because you are signalling to him that he's a just a friend to you why else would you mention your dates...

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posted January 29, 2009 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
MVM is right, you need to be patient with him, be his good friend, sag asc loves it and taurus moon must know you are really there for him and wont disappear suddenly ...taurus moon appreciates 'gentle presence' and hates all kinds of drama

patience, patience and again patience

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posted January 29, 2009 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for savanna20     Edit/Delete Message
As at Taurus moon, that's me. With Libra rising, that's me too. Back and forth.

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posted January 29, 2009 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
Hey, reread the Virgo Man/Cancer Woman in Linda's "Love Signs"...also the Virgo Man section in Sun Signs.

I am worried this guy will just keep waffling and not going for it with you. I think he might not bring things out into the open himself. So you might have to confront him.

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Best way to approach a virgo man: dont.

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posted January 30, 2009 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for emma_duncan     Edit/Delete Message
he seems to have lot of earth influence,
i think he will be honest with you and not play any games...
virgo likes attention to details in practical things, they r very nurturing in practical ways, like eg a woman in venus in virgo might cook for you, if she likes you..so the key is small prcatical things...
plus earth sign is v objective and practical...you have lot of cancer influnec,..i think cancer works v well with virgo and taurus....

and that calling you for policy update....comeon he was just calling to talk with you

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asc/sun/moon: Capricon/leo/libra

venus virgo
Mars Taurus

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posted January 31, 2009 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for emma_duncan     Edit/Delete Message
maybe he didnt reply to yr text cz he was asleep and replied back when he got up

in any case yr water sun makes you read too much in stuff, with his virgo infleunec i dont think he will be playing scorpio like games with u (control, manipulation, saying something meanging other....sorry scorpio folks)

i think earth makes u be very practical about things...no wasting around with words and time

but i guess take it easy, ty to know each other and like one of my friend says "let things take their own course" (my friend is cancer by the way)

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posted February 03, 2009 01:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
Aw, I feel for you! This guy sounds so frustrating--like he's flirting but you aren't sure why, and like he's sending mixed signals, and like, intuitively, you feel like he's really really into you but just can't get it together to cross over the gap between you, but intellectually your worry that he's not interested. Aaaagh, frustrating!

I hope this guy will just clear up his signals and make a nice, clear move!

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posted February 03, 2009 01:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
Alright, here are my ideas, largely based on the Taurus moon (is it conjunct your Venus??), and on that @#** Sag Rising:

-Touch him physically. Just come up and put a "friendly" arm around him, or hold hands. This might clue him in to the fact that you are flirting, not just doing friendly banter.

-Nix all the self-protective talk about other guys. As a Leo with Cancer Moon-Venus-Saturn, Cap Rising, I do this too, to a) protect my dignity by not showing my possibly unrequited feelings and b) alert the mixed-signal guy to the fact that I am alluring to other guys. It's a BAD idea as you know. Replace that banter with a different kind of banter. Let slip, subtly, that you see him as a very attractive guy.

-Cut out the Iming/texting and create memorable encounters in person...with lots of vibing and touching. IM/texting is evil, because you can end up suffering when someone doesn't reply, and most guys respond VERY DIFFERENTLY to a flesh-and-blood woman with hair that smells good who has her hand on their arm than they do to a text.

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wow, that does sound frustrating! well i'm a sag rising with taurus moon, so i'll give my input, for what it's worth.

we (sag risings) do flirt, or play in a way which is often perceived as flirting. that doesn't mean he isn't into you, of course.. BUT with his taurus moon he's gonna take his emotional responses to you VERY slowly and over time he will decide if it feels right to him or not. so it seems like he flirts, maybe, to get a reaction and then withdraws to process it. which figures in virgo as well.

i also suggest touching him, but i suggest only doing it once, and making it poignant. when the moment is right and you both are feeling good, look into his eyes instead of responding verbally, and gently touch his arm, making a joke or something like that. his response will tell you a lot. and if you can make it subtle enough that it could come across as a friendly thing, you will protect your cancerian vulnerability. if he laughs or plays but does not respond in any way that makes you quite sure he has feelings for you too, then you probably have your answer. although the virgo/taurus stuff may make him stoic and unresponsive for a time. but pay attention to subtle signs, such as him relaxing as opposed to tensing up. and quick eye contact as you're touching him as opposed to looking away.

i also agree that trying to communicate via IM is confusing enough, even between people who know eachother very well. you need intonation, eye contact, etc, to get anywhere.

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posted February 03, 2009 05:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
hmm, sorry, but i see nothing frustrating about the situation, he likes you that's for sure but he is trying to know you better before jumping into a relationship with you, what's wrong with that? might save you both from unnecessary heartache... also you act just like him back and forth ... i understand that you like him too much to control your nervousness but why putting an away message that you were going out with LM? does he know who LM is and that they are just a friend of yours? i understand that deep inside you probably want to make him a little jealous to make the move so to say but you might get the opposite result ... i dont think he is playing games with you, he is just not sure whether he can trust you and whether he should bother getting into a relationship at all cozz he sounds like a status quo person to me but if it's worth it and he feels secure he will
may i ask where is your SN?

P.S. also i would not advise you to hurry with 'touching' unless you both feel comfortable around each other, it will look like you are trying to seduce him and that wont make him feel secure ... become friends first!

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"Yesterday I sent him an instant message after his away message said he wasn't feeling good. I said, "I hope you feel better hun." Anyway we chatted a bit and I later put an away message up that I was, "going out to dinner with LM," who is a friend of mine. At the same time I was prepping to log off, and I was like, "well you poor thing, if I could give you a big hug I would." And then he stopped replying. Yeah it hurt me but I had to go."

.......eh, sorry if I have to disgree with everyone. He DID start off by saying he wasnt feeling well?? So what's the big deal when he didnt respond to your last message? That thing about the hug doesnt requre a response under normal circumstances, let alone would i respond to it, if I was feeling ill. Sorry, but I still believe that you tend to overanalyze his behaviour, taking the slightest bit as an offence where none was intended, but probably dont take your own behaviour into account. I'm sure you telling him about your dates is just the tip of the iceberg.

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posted February 03, 2009 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
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hmm, sorry, but i see nothing frustrating about the situation, he likes you that's for sure but he is trying to know you better before jumping into a relationship with you, what's wrong with that?

I have to strongly disagree here. I'm so sorry and I hope it isn't true, but he really might not be interested. There's nothing in his behavior that clears it up, either way. His actions might indicate that he has a vague, semi-flirtatious interest in a number of girls, and doesn't intend to act on it. There is a VAST spectrum between letting someone know that you're interested and "jumping into a relationship." For example, "Hey, let's get a coffee right now." Or, "Can I give you a call this weekend? Maybe we could go to that movie you were talking about." Or, "Want to come to this party with me?"

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I understand that deep inside you probably want to make him a little jealous to make the move so to say but you might get the opposite result ... i dont think he is playing games with you, he is just not sure whether he can trust you

Again, this to me is the guy being very, very frustrating, and it might mean he will never make a move/isn't all that interested. A mature person has to extend some openness and trust before they have proof that the other person is trustworthy (and that's why you, Ms. Double Cancer, will have to be the mature one here and cut out your own self-protective mixed messages.) There are a zillion ways for a mature guy who actually wants a relationship to make a safe, tentative move, and this guy hasn't made any moves.

Also, it's not clear the extent to which he does (or doesn't) have this type of relationship with other female friends. But you don't have to leap into a relationship to ask a girl out in a friendly way and hang out and get to know each other. The fact that he hasn't done that yet means that either a) he's not interested,he's just doing friendly flirting b) he's very, VERY interested, cautious, shy, and looking for a clearer signal from you, or c) he is an annoying, conflicted weenie who is vaguely, inchoately interested in lots of people and drifts through his life unconsciously, not really making clear decisions for himself or being straight with others. (A Virgo/Sag/Taurus could fall into any of these categories.)

You have to clear up your signals in case it's B (which, I hope it is!) But, I think a big part of why I see this as frustrating is cultural--I have noticed among my friends and acquaintences the growth of sort of half-assed non-relationships, where a guy IMs with a woman flirtatiously and sees her occasionally, but never asks her out or kisses or touches her or gets to know her one-on-one.

If touching the guy is not a good way to let him know, "I want to be more than Just Friends," what is? In my experience, getting closer as friends with the big pile of mixed signals still going on is even more confusing later. It's great to get to know each other and be friends before leaping into a relationship, but also important for both parties to know whether you are exploring the possibility of romance, or not. If you're just friends, you can enjoy talking about other romances or crushes with each other...if you're friends-first, that's off the table. And I think it can be very hurtful if one person thinks you're being friends-first, and the other thinks you're Just Friends.

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posted February 07, 2009 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
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I actually agree with Lucia23 about him not having any interest.

Just to clarify, I don't think he doesn't have any interest. I mean, with the way he's acting, he could be madly in love with you--OR he could be really not interested--OR (likeliest) somewhere vaguely, frustratingly in between. To me, that kind of thing is so frustrating. But I didn't mean to discourage you. I hope he's interested and will get the balls to spend more time together.

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But I really just want to hang out and go from there.

I am so, so, so confused as to why so many men my friends are interested in seem to have trouble with this concept lately. Maybe the fault is in books like "He's Just Not That Into You", that imply that a guy is a loser, an ass, or not interested if he tries to hang out casually with a woman he likes and make out with her a few times instead of taking her on Special Dates after calling eight days in advance. Maybe it's all the technology. It seems that single people today have lost touch with how fun it can be to casually hang out and explore what is (or isn't) between you.

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posted February 09, 2009 12:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgOh     Edit/Delete Message
Tsk Tsk Tsk ... As a Virgo, I am just soooo not feeling this what so ever!

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