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MyVirgoMask
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posted April 03, 2009 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with Lucia...try to not drag this out for yourself to hurt more.

It raises up my hackles that he might also be manipulative.
Seriously, your mom told him you were crazy about him ??? AAGHHHHHH!!!!! That would totally flip me out.

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GrlyGirl20
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Lucia23
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posted April 04, 2009 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
It might not be a Cancer trait to test--I can't tell, since I have Leo Sun-Merc-Mars in my very Plutonian 8th house and then my Cancer stuff (Venus, Saturn, Moon)in the 7th, and then I've got a "Hades Moon" (Moon square Pluto). When I was a teenager, I would say things like, "You should go out with her," to a guy I had a crush on. (He was supposed to blush, look down, and respond: "Well there's someone else I can't get off of my mind, and I'm only interested in that one person," and there would be torturous back and forth till he finally admitted it was ME, and then I would be all coy and girlie and pretend I was surprised, and all the vulnerability would be his, and I could pretend forever that he was more into me than I was into him, and he would BELIEVE that because I used a combo of sweetness and Pluto power to get him to blurt out his feelings.) Also, if I was attracted to a guy friend, I would talk often about other guys with him. I even thought it was a good idea to let him see me with some other guy throwing himself at me (he--the guy friend--was supposed to respond by getting really jealous and realizing he was in love with me.)

I think it's not just my Pluto/8th house influences...my 7th house Cancer moon is TERRIFIED of rejection and plays crabby games, and then curls up and cries and calls its mother. And my Cancer Sun friends seem to play self-protective games and test love interests, too.

The games I used to play work on fire and air sign guys. I do not think they work on anyone else.

Anyhow, there's some reason this guy called!! If it was to be manipulative, I can't imagine why. I somehow doubt it was to stroke his ego. I'm beginning to think he's really geeky and inexperienced? Or something? All I can think for you to do is try to be around him as much as possible in person, quit it with the sassy banter and gameplaying, smell of vanilla, and wear lots of Taurus-moon-friendly tactile fabrics (cashmere.) You said you feel like touching him when you're around him, so do that.

I just really wish I knew his motivations. It makes me think he might actually be confused himself. I think it was good you backed off for awhile, but now when you are together you should create an atmosphere that is alluring to Virgo-Tauruses. Banter about other girls might make a Sag or Aries think, "She knows I'm a stud, she wants me!" But I have no idea what this guy is thinking.

So, alluring atmosphere for Virgo-Taurus guys: smell like a girl, like food, and very clean at the same time (vanilla!); look pretty and soft-to-the-touch (easy for Ms. Cancer); be gentle (no thorny banter); be yourself (calling to ask him to recommend a restaurant to take another guy to=gameplaying, not being yourself...the Taurus Moon likes an honest, humble, gentle, feminine woman, even if he himself is not honest or clear)...you want to get to know him as a friend, so share the kind of things you might share with a platonic friend, or ask him about himself...touch him. Change more of your interaction to the non-verbal=eye contact, touch, VIBES. Open yourself up to feeling the energy between you.

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posted April 06, 2009 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message
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Lucia23
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posted April 06, 2009 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
It's great that he wanted to hang out in person. Too bad you couldn't make it, but seize the next opportunity.

Like I said:
-QUIT IT with the banter (especially via text or phone)...it's not like foreplay flirtation; instead, I feel it's bringing you two further from actually making out
-Touch him
-Hang out in person only
-Change the subject/do not engage about girls he hooks up with
-stop talking about other guys

He might actually be interested. I'm really having trouble telling. But I think it might not matter so much--what matters is that YOU'RE interested. So I guess it's less important to try to decipher his muddled feelings than it is to actually try to hook up with him.

I think his Taurus moon probably does not like that sassy banter ("Oh, so you don't know my #?", "you deserve a punishment") or teasing.

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posted April 07, 2009 01:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message
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posted April 08, 2009 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message
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Lucia23
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posted April 09, 2009 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
I am really surprised that hanging out with him when he asked wasn't your #1 priority, given that you are obsessing about him and posting pictures of him on an astrology website. (By the way, I know that sounds harsh--and trust me, here I am obsessing on an astrology website too instead of out being with someone in real life!)

Stop obsessing, stop talking about it with your mom or friends, and just start hanging out in person. The obsessing is making the whole thing into something it's not. If you actually hang out with him, you can find out what actually is between you and what things feel like between you.

You're looking hard for signs of his interest or lack thereof so you don't get hurt, but what really matters is that YOU are interested. This guy is vague and not real direct or clear, and he might not think in any way that you would truly understand before getting to know him.

Water-influenced people have to protect the vibes we send out. When we obsess, we send out weird, wrong vibes that make people uncomfortable. When we are happily living in the moment and don't have a secret internal obsession going on, the other person gets to experience what we're really like--loving, fun, sweet, empathetic.

Your obsession may be causing you to send weird vibes this guy's way. Also, there's been a lot of mixed message-y banter...and your MOTHER got in the mix, which is just wrong (I've got Cancer Moon-Venus-Saturn--the best thing Cancer-influenced folks can do is GET OUR MOTHERS OUT OF OUR LOVE LIVES!!)...

This is a college thing and time is short--I can't help but think it's an occasion for saying yes when he asks you to hang out, chugging some beer, and making out before graduation---NOT an occasion for Lindaland, your Mom, guessing his ascendent, bantery and confusing "you should date him/her" texts or phone calls, puzzling over his motivations, or weird excuses.

What matters is what actually happens between you in real life when you are together. You can suss out all the other things better (including the race thing) in person. You don't need to know his ascendent or his inner workings--those things are yours to discover while actually hanging out!

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GrlyGirl20
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posted April 09, 2009 02:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Lucia!

You're right...I'm tired of obsessing and should just get over it.

Ugh I can't believe I sound so desperate.

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Lucia23
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posted April 09, 2009 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
Good luck, and have a fantastic and great time!! Let us know what happens when you hang out in person with the Virgo.

[Eep, now it's my turn to take my OWN advice and take my Crab-moon innards out into the sunny real world....hope not to get hurt again.]

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posted April 14, 2009 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message
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Lucia23
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posted April 15, 2009 01:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
I'm delighted to hear that you actually hung out!

Now, all this back-and-forth about relationships versus friendships seems to be confusing both of you and creating mixed signals and weird energy. I suggest you keep hanging out in person and pretend that nothing at all weird or mixed-signally happened.

I wouldn't give up, for the following reasons:
a) The guy is hanging out with you after your MOM told him you liked him!! This means that at the very least, he's flattered/excited you like him and wants to be friends. At the very least! A guy who was not into you romantically OR as a friend would go far, far away knowing you were that interested,
b) He's leaving in a few weeks. So this is a good time to seize the moment and hang out while you can.

Next time, focus on showing the open-hearted, receptive side of Cancer. Any time you feel tempted to discuss your relationship with him, his relationship with others, your relationship with others, whether or not you or he want to date anyone, or anything like that, just SAY NOTHING. Pat his arm, and smile.

Really LISTEN to him, and don't worry so much about his signals, which we know are frustratingly mixed. Enjoy your time with him.

It seems like you get nervous or want reassurance, so you test him a bit, as in the car. He's being kind of cruel, but you're not exactly being charming (sorry!!!) when you put down his hookups or bitterly tease him about texting girls. He wants to just have fun right now, and you said here that what you wanted was just to get to know him and/or explore the attraction...so stop being so crabby!

Again, I'm hoping another LLer will chime in with great advice.

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posted April 25, 2009 03:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message
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