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Lara
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posted March 18, 2009 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
I know him.. l know what he's like with his family etc.

We have never been together. We never dated so l feel he doesn't owe me anything!

True love is true love. It's not about judging or criticizing - it's about accepting a person and appreciating the time you have together.

Sorry, l just don't know what else to say.

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Kamots
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posted March 18, 2009 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kamots     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Lara! Tough to be in your position. I agree with writesomething that this man is not a decent person. I think a person who would sleep with you "even if I got married" is unacceptable. It means he uses people to gratify himself. There are many people who can do this without any remorse. If that's the way you want to be "loved", then go right ahead and follow this passion/obsession. If you want a real love relationship with a real man who can feel and express real love, then this isn't the right guy. If you tell me "I'm not ready for real love, I want this situation" then ok, I undestand. You don't have to be ready yet. But be conscious of the path you're treading and the consequences it may have. Make your choice based on reality and not dreams/illusions.

Anyway, we'll be here to support you no matter what

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blue moon
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posted March 18, 2009 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
Maybe what this is about is that 'sex buddy' isn't the thing for you.

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Lara
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posted March 18, 2009 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Yup BM but l can't help that now!!!

Kamots and Write, it really isn't like that. He is just testing me to see my reaction. His Aqua moon wants to know how deep in the water l am!

I am very capable and ready for true love but l cannot look at a guy and say "ok he's perfect, squeaky clean and right for me l think i'll fall in love with him!"

I already have 2 guys like that... the gun man and the greek man. BOTH are chasing the hell out of me zzz

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writesomething
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posted March 18, 2009 03:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I dont know why you're continuing making excuses for his behavior. I mean, do you really want a man who admits to infidelity?
Why do you want the man who treats you like sh-t? I think you need to work on being alone and not focus on others so much. I feel if you had a better self image of yourself, you'd be more open to the men who are chasing you/admiring you the proper way.

kamots.

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Love
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posted March 18, 2009 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message
Hm. My own take on this is that there is a difference between a deep connection and true love. They can certainly exist together (and ideally they do!) but they can also exist separately from one another.

In one of my previous relationships with one of my Scorps, I felt the same way you did. It seemed I could never stay away from him, even after we broke up. He loved me but could "never fall in love" with me because I was spiritual and he was an atheist. Basically, we had different values and he wasn't so keen on mine.

We had an insanely deep connection but after a certain amount of time it began to sink in that our connection did not necessarily mean we had a great love. I think we had the potential, in terms of the shared energy, for a great love. I loved him, certainly, and I think he loved me.

Anyhow, I realized that I believed that I could be loved for who I am, not in spite of who I am, so I broke off all ties with him. And I felt so much better...eventually.

Now I am with 'the' man, as far as I can tell. I am loved for my spirituality and for my love of astrology, not in spite of those things.

I can imagine that it's hard to break that type of connection, and I also imagine that you'll do it if/when it doesn't work for you anymore. When the pain becomes greater than the pleasure, then you'll be more able to let it go.

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GrlyGirl20
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posted March 18, 2009 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message
Writesomething I TOTALLY agree with you. Lara I really, really, REALLY hate to be negative. But I honestly think that if a man is into you he will be with you. Point blank. And honestly I am a little baffled as to why he said what he did about you being a mother and why you are applauding him for his honesty.

In fact the same thing happned to my mother when she was dating a man (whom she was with for over 5 years) when I was a child. He told her if she didn't have a young child (I was like 3) then he would have married her (regardless of the fact that she's obsessed with freedom and bristes at marriage). And she kicked him to the curb.

To be a little blunt I'm gussing your not in your early 20's as you have children. But it seems your mindset on this man is eerily childish. I'm sorry and I don't want to seem rude but you have children why on earth are you focusing on this man who said what he did. To me that is putting your children down.

But then again I'm also in my early 20's and don't know how things are in terms of dating beyond anything other than college.

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GrlyGirl20
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posted March 18, 2009 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message
oops double post...sorry :-)

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Lara
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posted March 18, 2009 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Why are you all judging me now?? Go look at your own relationships!

I am only venting and asking for any astrological guidance with this guy.
He's a GOOD guy and l don't want to be on my own... i've been on my own now for nearly a year! and then it was only a relationship overseas so i've been alone for over FOUR years.

Again l repeat that he was only ever my sex buddy. We both agreed from the start cos we had such amazing chemistry! My fault for not realizing that it's impossible to have a non-emotional relationship with someone you feel so deeply for.

Anyhow, now l have the problem where l can't pull away. Of course i'm not going to sleep with him if he's married but i'm trying to show how insane this attraction is.

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Lara
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posted March 18, 2009 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
"True love cannot be found where it truly does not exist, Nor can it be hidden where it truly does."

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Diandra23
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posted March 18, 2009 03:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Lara

post his natal for us to see please.

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writesomething
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posted March 18, 2009 03:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Lara- we're just trying to help. This guy sounds like a sleezeball. But since hes such a good guy, theres no point in asking us for help. Why ask at all? you obviously know him better than we do. Dont get angry at us if you want our opinions.

STOP looking at astrology.
It will only make you crazy. I dont care what astrology has to say about you guys. You can be the most intense soulmates in the world, but that doesnt mean sh-t! I hope you could see this man for who he is and NOT what you think hes suppose to be .

Hes not a good guy. I dont believe that. MY opinion.

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savanna20
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posted March 18, 2009 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for savanna20     Edit/Delete Message
Lara, lara, lara my dear. What if you wait after venus retro to really think about it?

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writesomething
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posted March 18, 2009 03:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Im not trying to be mean. I hope you know that. I just feel repulsed by the things he has said to you.

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Lara
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posted March 18, 2009 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Sorry Write... it's just that l am unable to walk away lol

It's completely not an option (impossible) and yes l do put my kids first but l also have a life, separate to my kids. I need this freedom.

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Love
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posted March 18, 2009 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message
Actually, I don't feel my post was judgmental. I get where you are since I've been there myself. Only you can know how you feel about this man and only he can know how he feels about you, until he lets you know.

Having said that, you posted about your situation and although the charts will show the energy between the two of you, how it plays out is based on free will - both his as well as your own. You two obviously have a very potent connection. That all-consuming feeling can be seen in the synastry but not how it will be handled.

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Lara
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posted March 18, 2009 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Good idea Savanna


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GrlyGirl20
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posted March 18, 2009 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message
Lara....I'm not judging you at ALL! I've been there, where your in sexual relationship with someone, and you're CRAZY about that person but they just won't or can't commit to you or be with you. But I realized (even at my age of 23) that you can't make excuses for any bad behavior (in all relationships). If you are taking the time to analyze behavior and aren't getting what you want then it's time to be done.

Plus your situation is more dire as you have children and can't only think of a situation in terms of yourself.

I do notice you are making excuses and to be honest if you don't want input from people who don't want to see you hurt and who are only being honest to prevent you from heartache then why are you posting here. I highly doubt people here are going to tell you only what you want to hear just because that's what you want.

But then again maybe you are right and he is testing you. The only way to find out is confront him and ask how does he feel about you.

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Lara
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posted March 18, 2009 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
yes LOVE, that is the question. How can it be handled. I have tried quitting, deleting his numbers, emails etc. Didn't work..

as soon as l am with another guy i'm thinking about him. It's like when you can't have your favourite drink so you chose something else and then wish it had been your favourite drink

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Love
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posted March 18, 2009 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message
Lara,

Again I've been there. It took me a year and a half to let go of the guy I felt this way about. Every day I thought of him. I compared every man I met to him. It will drive you mad for a while and then slowly you will be able to let him go. But again, not until you've reached a certain point. When you can't take it anymore, you'll be able to begin the process of moving on.

All the best

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savanna20
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posted March 18, 2009 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for savanna20     Edit/Delete Message
There goes that stubborn Taurus nature. I understand you because I've been there.

We want what we can't have. Has he contacted you or what?

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Lara
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posted March 18, 2009 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you LOVE

I will confront him and if he won't say how he feels l will make another effort to walk away. That must have been awful for you. Gosh, l will you happiness too x

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Lara
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posted March 18, 2009 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Savanna, yes he contacts me regularly and i ignore him and then l begin to miss him and l reply to one of his messages.

I'm seeing him on Friday

He is as stubborn as me though... look at his chart!

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GrlyGirl20
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posted March 18, 2009 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message
Lara:

"Sorry Write... it's just that l am unable to walk away lol
It's completely not an option (impossible) and yes l do put my kids first but l also have a life, separate to my kids. I need this freedom."

I'm very very much so taken aback by this. This just doesn't seem to be a healthy attraction.

I really don't want to be rude but I guess I view parents in a different way. To me kids should never be separate to your life (in terms of dating long term). Plus what do you want? Do you see this as short term or long term because if its short term then there is no need to integrate him with your kids. But if you view him as long term at some point he is going to have to integrate into life with your kids and if he thinks the way he does he'll view them as a burden. And if you can't "walk away" how on earth is that healthy to your children. It's not.

I do agree to wait until after the venus retrograde is over and maybe try to not be with another man. Work on yourself. Yeah, 4 years is a long time but when someone says they can't walk away that doesn't sound like someone who is ready to date.

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darkdreamer
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posted March 18, 2009 03:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Some months ago I came across this article and I loved it. Well, it opened my eyes to some things.
I don`t know if it is interesting to you, but I thought I`d post it here. Maybe it is at least a good read.
http://theemergencesite.com/Tech/TechIssues-Relationship-Addiction.htm


Lara,

you said you can`t walk away, because you miss him so much.
What specifically do you miss about him?

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