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Topic: How Do You Express Anger----Mars?
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Alia
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posted February 27, 2010 12:21 AM
 
mars in scorpio here too...
but retro at 0 degrees...i keep all anger inside to poison me IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted February 27, 2010 06:38 AM
No one has EVER been mad at you till a Mars in Scorpio has been mad at you.
Need all my Gemini rationality for that! LOL
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Ami Ann
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posted February 27, 2010 01:14 PM
Have loved this thread. Am gonna write a brief summary of what I learned. This is not directed to any particular post just my trying to learn a little more about Astrology.
Mars in Aries--direct, up front with anger:deals with power in a direct way
Taurus--holds it in and then can explode
Gemini---expresses anger verbally--can be cutting cuz good with verbal weapons
Cancer--holds it in and expresses it in an
indirect way
Leo--comfortable with feelings and expresses anger directly and often dramatically
Virgo---can be critical and fault finding
when angry
Libra---thinks long and hard before expresses anger and then does what needs to be done
Scorpio---intense, confident anger, will not back down for appeasement purposes lol Sag--open , honest, can be too blunt but you will know where you stand
Aqua-- even though likes to argue--wants anger resolved not seething and brewing in a cold treatment way
Cap--Detachment to anger,can get in to a non feeling space.This could be a predisposition to violence.Free will trumps ALL. This may be a predisposition, though,according to Astrological Blurbs website.
Pisces--holds anger and other deep emotions in. Can get angry on others behalf easier than on their own behalf
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ladya22
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posted February 27, 2010 04:51 PM
Hi Ami Ann-You definitely got that right for me with sun conj Mars, BML and Osc lilith all in Leo and all squaring my Saturn. I either let it out right away or go work out to burn some steam off. I never hold back when it comes to anger and I never murder the messenger (I have really good aim) but as soon as I have let it out I am really over it and never hold a grudge.  My 2 year old also has Sun Conjuct Mars but in Scorpio and man that little guy can get angry in a heartbeat! IP: Logged |
Predominantlyfire
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From: neutralcruiser@hotmail.co.uk
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posted February 27, 2010 05:46 PM
My dad has Mars conjunct the Sun in Capricorn both opposing the Moon in Cancer. He bullied a little boy for years like the big man he is. He should have his throat slit really. Lucky for him i found god - that's for sure. IP: Logged |
vapor-lash
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posted February 27, 2010 06:14 PM
Ok - Now I feel I have to add this since Cappy mentioned becoming physical and now PDF's dad..I would never lay a finger on someone, not a slap, not a punch, not a push - nothing at all. They'd have to attack me physically for me to defend myself physically. IP: Logged |
cappy1277
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From: philadelphia,pa
Registered: Jul 2009
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posted February 27, 2010 07:10 PM
Without considering aspects to mars in capricorn, I think it could be pretty ruthless. I think its worse than scorpio mars, if you ask me and I'm not speaking from my own personal experiences but from what I've seen in other people with that placement. Capricorn is exalted in mars. IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted February 27, 2010 07:17 PM
Dear (((Vapor)))
You don't seem calculating or any of the "bad" things of Cap Mars . I hope you don't take the Cap Mars descriptions so close to the heart.
Everyone has isolated things in the chart that point to bad dysfunction, I assume.
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vapor-lash
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posted February 27, 2010 07:18 PM
Cappy - I don't have experiences with other Capricorn Mars people.. I don't think I've known any.So I only have my own experience. IP: Logged |
vapor-lash
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posted February 27, 2010 07:20 PM
Thank you Ami!  No, I've stopped taking things literally.. I used to get annoyed by descriptions like that (not so much Cap Mars, but there were others which I found worse lol).. I think I'm over it now. Maybe it's a case of - "It's not what you have.. It's the way you use it" IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted February 27, 2010 07:21 PM
I guess the typical description of Cap Mars is a Mars which can act in an unfeeling way.
It can be cold and devoid of emotions in situations which need emotions such as relationships.
I guess that would be the typical description of it BUT Vapor and others with it----you can't take ONE part of the chart in isolation or we would ALL be psychopaths, I think.lol
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ladya22
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posted February 27, 2010 07:26 PM
Ok since we are adding the physical my Mom - she was born in a foreign outside of U.S. and times are kinds sketchy but from a not so great rectification I did I think she has Mars in Aqua in the 7th house and mars semi-sextile sun and the only mars aspect she has. Hmm??? She was horribly physically abusive- I was put in hospital a few times, had to have my jaw wired, threatened at knifepoint and taken away eventually. I have seen her literally run over a boyfriend with her car breaking his leg. She has the Worst temper I have ever seen.Hey but loves my mom haha! I really do -- I kinda get it -- I in no way agree with what she did but she had some problems (obviously). alx IP: Logged |
vapor-lash
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posted February 27, 2010 07:27 PM
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BUT Vapor and others with it----you can't take ONE part of the chart in isolation or we would ALL be psychopaths, I think.lol
 LOL That's very true. When you say act in an unfeeling manner.. My first reaction to drama or angry situations - is to work out a solution to what's happening, to come to some agreement (Mars is in the 7th).. But I couldn't stand back and work things out in my mind - unless I had some detachment. So it's not so much that I'm unfeeling.. but I try to see the big picture and sort things out, somehow. IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted February 27, 2010 07:38 PM
Yes---that is what I mean--a detachment. However, detachment is not always bad.
My Gemini planets saved my life,I think. I have a part of me which can detach from emotion. I was molested by my M ,as I have shared. I lost my son. If I could not go in to a rational, detached space, I would not have survived as well as I have(which does not seem that well often -lol--but I DID survive)
I am very grateful for all my Gemini planets which are cool and clear thinking.
I have to believe that God's imprint is on all of our charts.
x o x o Ami
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vapor-lash
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posted February 27, 2010 08:38 PM
Ami - you have such positive energy, I couldn't attach it to one sign or another.. Sometimes I can guess peoples signs (other times I'm shockingly bad at it lol) but with you I don't think I could even take a stab, because you seem very different in a very good way, in a very spiritual way - I think that is because of the things you have been through. You are extremely understanding..  IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted February 27, 2010 09:26 PM
(((Vapor)))
Thank you.
I couldn't stop all the bad things that happened but maybe God will use me for some good things.
You made me cry, Vapor, but they were not tears of sadness.Thank you for being my friend! x o x o AmiIP: Logged |
cappy1277
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From: philadelphia,pa
Registered: Jul 2009
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posted February 27, 2010 09:48 PM
theres a positive and negative side to every aspect.....i've been told that i'm a psychopath not because i've ever hurt anyone but because i know how to walk away from a situation and not let it ruin my whole life. i detach myself because i feel that there are more pressing issues to deal with than to have my blood pressure go up and have a stroke. lol...i say what i have to say and walk away. i feel thats more my gemini moon than anything else. i hate feeling anger because its such a negative emotion. IP: Logged |
vapor-lash
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posted February 27, 2010 10:58 PM
awwwwwwwwww You're so sweet! Thank you Ami, you're a cool friend  IP: Logged |
stopandstare
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posted February 27, 2010 11:46 PM
i have mars in taurus. in general i keep my emotions contained. so whether it be anger or sadness or whatever, i keep it under wraps. but yeah i must agree that i am the mars in taurus type to keep it all in until it explodes in a temporary moment of rage. i don't let things rattle me or get to me but i keep them hidden until that box that holds them all in can't handle it anymore and then i explode. i'm more prone to grudges or remembering things and holding it against people. that's how i deal with my anger. i don't forget and i won't let you forget it either.even when i explode i tend to just use harsh words. i don't really yell or stuff like that. i just say mean things or harsh things. i'm not a very outwardly emotional person so you won't see much theatrics from me if i'm angry. in general i intellectualize my emotions so i'm not into yelling or even being angry. IP: Logged |
Predominantlyfire
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From: neutralcruiser@hotmail.co.uk
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posted February 28, 2010 03:56 AM
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She was horribly physically abusive- I was put in hospital a few times, had to have my jaw wired, threatened at knifepoint and taken away eventually. I have seen her literally run over a boyfriend with her car breaking his leg. She has the Worst temper I have ever seen.
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Hey but loves my mom haha! I really do -- I kinda get it -- I in no way agree with what she did but she had some problems (obviously).
Alot of people would no doubt congratulate you on still being able to love her, and associate with her. But i'm afraid i'm not one of those fools. I find it staggering and rediculous. I'm sorry you went through that, but that's how i feel. Moreover it's people like you that enable idiots like your mother to get away with this time and time again, and why these people get such lame sentences in court. I'm sorry but it's just not on and they need dealing with properly. Personally i'd just put them up against the wall and shoot them. I would also question what you describe as 'love' and i would say that having been what you've been through it is likely to be some kind of repressed emotional reaction, flat affectivity and a loss of self-understanding. You had your jaw wired and went to hospital and you love the person who did it? That doesn't make sense. It makes no sense whatsoever and it isn't love. It's confusion. IP: Logged |
Diablo
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From: melbourne/victoria/australia
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posted February 28, 2010 04:26 AM
On the subject of mothers, i totally agree with PDF...there's nothing more annoying than the glorification of motherhood, like becoming mother and giving birth absolves you from abuse and the hatred perpetrated on your own flesh and blood. I hate that saying, "all mothers love their children"...because not all do and anyone can have a baby. Abuse is abuse, simple as that. Dont matter who it comes from. Just because someone is a mum doesn't make it alright & acceptable or ok to make up an excuse to explain their appalling behaviour. The sad thing is that children love their parents, no matter how old their are or what horrific abuse they have to endure from them. It makes me so sick that i think their should be a license to bring children into this world, i mean you need a license to drive a car or own a reptile like a snake. Cancer mars & sun, Libra moon, Aries Asc..that may explain the lil rant & rave, not that its related much to the post..but hey, least you got an example on how Mars plays out hahaha  IP: Logged |
Diablo
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From: melbourne/victoria/australia
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posted February 28, 2010 04:31 AM
Sorry but having your jaw wired shut and all that isn't a misdirected sense of love. Its pure HATRED and ppl like that should be either be executed or throw into jail so they can get raped and bashed everyday for the rest of their lives. Sorry, I'm a real, "eye for an eye" person when it comes to this topic. Despite being a neo peace loving hippy in the modern world, when it comes to domestic abuse, I get very twisted and evil IP: Logged |
ladya22
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posted February 28, 2010 05:56 AM
Hi-
I have been a member of this forum for a long time and gone through 3-4 usernames but still haven't posted much with this username so not sure on how to quote but anyway to adress PDF his quote:
"...sorry you went through that, but that's how i feel. Moreover it's people like you that enable idiots like your mother to get away with this time and time again, and why these people get such lame sentences in court. I'm sorry but it's just not on and they need dealing with properly. Personally i'd just put them up against the wall and shoot them. I would also question what you describe as 'love' and i would say that having been what you've been through it is likely to be some kind of repressed emotional reaction, flat affectivity and a loss of self-understanding. You had your jaw wired and went to hospital and you love the person who did it?"First, you don't know me or the work I have done on myself to get to this point with her so I don't appreciate your judgment or anyone else's. also how does a child enable a fully grown adult to abuse them??? As soon as I got bigger and stronger, I was no longer her victim, I let her know her abuse would have consequences (I gave her a warning that if she tried anything I would have to defend myself verbally and physically) -- I was 15 at the time and she tested that theory only to discover that in all those years I learned how to fight back. It took years and therapy and prayer to get over it but I am and I do love her. She wasn't always like that and she has a mental illness- obviously. If I look at the horrors of her life- and there were many...maybe just maybe I might have turned out the other way too but I am nothing like her. I am not making excuses for her it's just what happened to her and if your life experiences shape, mold or break you, she got broken. I have had my peace and confronted her in person and told her what she did to me from my perspective (when I was in my early 20's) and testified against her in court when I was a teenager she has worked hard on healing herself and is a different person now.
I see her maybe 2x a year we live in a few thousand miles apart and that's fine with me. it doesn't make me an idiot that I have forgiven her and I haven't forgotten what happened to me but I am NOT BROKEN by my experiences. Am I as you said..." repressed emotional reaction, flat affectivity and a loss of self-understanding." etc., No, I am fully capable of expressing my emotions and I do not suffer from a lack of self-understanding again your judgment kind ****** me off I like any other human have my issues but have thankfully narrowed it down to a few magazines instead of the entire newsrack. Alx
edited to add: PDF, you do have me on the defensive because you insulted me in your post and I find that your comments were flat-out rude and unnecessary, you read my post and made really grand assumptions that I am emotionally defective. WOW, i thought most ppl on this board were a little more enlightened than that. It's not fun to be insulted by someone that knows Nothing about you, is it?
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ladya22
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posted February 28, 2010 06:00 AM
Hi Diablo-I totally agree with your statement. For whatever reason you always love your parents even when it is undeserved. Sad but true. I used to be so angry that my mom could have all the kids she wanted but as an adult I can't have more than 2 as the docs all agree the next one would kill me and I would love to have more. We will adopt so that I will have more just not of my own body. more kids to shower with hugs andkisses and everything I never got. Alx
your quote"... Abuse is abuse, simple as that. Dont matter who it comes from. Just because someone is a mum doesn't make it alright & acceptable or ok to make up an excuse to explain their appalling behaviour. The sad thing is that children love their parents, no matter how old their are or what horrific abuse they have to endure from them. It makes me so sick that i think their should be a license to bring children into this world, i mean you need a license to drive a car or own a reptile like a snake." IP: Logged |
cpn_edgar_winner
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posted February 28, 2010 06:46 AM
yes, you do always love your parents even when they have been abusive. i haven't seen my mother in i don't know, more than 10 years. wanting to harm your own children and not giving them any natural love affects your head in so many ways. at some point it is just sad. i don't think i will ever see my mother again while she lives. to me it is just very sad. the flip side of the coin is, your past in part, makes you the person that you are today, so many good things probobly came from it that no one could see. it took me 44 years to finally see the blessings in the horrendous. it like there are two roads after that, the low road, which we all know, and a higher road, where compassion reigns an inner drive that may not have existed in any other circumstances ensures good things for the future. it's so wierd that it is almost eaiser to still love your abuser than yourself..it takes time to love yourself and really realize that you are precious and deserve love. i wish many blessings to all of you that have ever been hurt as a child. if any of you want to talk privately about how to truly get past it all, i will share. it is a process, or it was for me, and now i am free from it. i don't claim to know much, but this i know. the hardest part of the process and the most important part of the process is forgiveness, but thanks to iq, i found a way to do it.IP: Logged |
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