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Ami Ann
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posted February 28, 2010 07:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Dear Lady,
I honor the horrible place you have raised yourself up from.
I loved my abusive mother OVER myself and it took me down, terribly.
I could not see what PDF sees. He can see the truth. He has maintained his personhood b/c he can see what is.
Only now, am I seeing what is and healing.
I think he is saying what Alice Miller says"You must see them for what they are."
If not, you will go down.
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Ami Ann
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posted February 28, 2010 07:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
I think I understand the Mars in Cap. It is like the unaspected Venus in the sense that it can detach. The fact that it CAN detach can be used for good or bad.It is almost an energy of pure detachment, it seems.
A pilot would need to detach in an emergency. However, it could be used for cruelty as in PDF's father.
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Ami Ann
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posted February 28, 2010 07:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
I think the Scorpio Mars is very different than the Cap Mars, though
It is not a detached anger or power. It is intense and very attached:almost opposite the Cap Mars in this way.
It feels very possessive of those it loves. I think Scorpio Mars would be the first to die for someone it loved.
With that intensity comes a fierceness which is what people are talking about when they talk about the power of the Scorpio Mars
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posted February 28, 2010 07:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message
Lady. Intresting to see that you snip navel string so good to your mother. I've difficult to be consistent with that kind of behavior as your mother have. Your mother have sure work on her self so she feel better now and can handle her anger. It's not easy when people not are healthy. The most of us people can handle the anger on the right way.

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posted February 28, 2010 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Predominantlyfire     Edit/Delete Message
You're all missing the point BADLY.
I wasn't making a point about Mars in Capricorn being a certain way. I was making a point about my own fathers MARS / SUN CONJUNCTION (regardless of sign) and the fact that that conjunction OPPOSSED the MOON.
It's the closeness of Mars to the Sun in such a conjunction that will have a marked effecton their personality and Mars / Moon oppositions can be very bad indeed for someones personality especially with regard to raging and devided-self. Especially as in my fathers case he has a Saturn Pluto (both retrograde!) conjunction conjunct a Leo Ascendent (the ULTIMATE narcassist!). He is EVERY bit the psychopath. With all the control and false-self publically, lack of private affect, narccasism, schizoidism, obsessive compulsivity and malignant narcassistic supplying.
What i said about Ladya66's mother i said only about her mother, not Ladya66 herself. I have no time for pussyfooting around on subjects. If Ladya66 wants to misinterpret what i say or even start sticking up for her mother that her problem but don't expect me to give a hoot because as far as i'm concerned her mother should be publically strung up.

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cappy1277
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posted February 28, 2010 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cappy1277     Edit/Delete Message
PDF- they say that people that are born on,around or during a full moon can be negative if they don't know how or choose not to use their energy in a constructive positive way. sorry to hear about your father. my mother is an aries with a taurus moon and mars and she was abusive towards me when i was a child. i chose to use those experiences as a life lesson for spiritual enlightenment and healing. its too bad that the whole world doesn't understand astrology. i believe it provides a wonderful map to our psyche and i use it as a tool for myself for positivity.

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posted February 28, 2010 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starkiss1     Edit/Delete Message
Hi,Ami
No one has EVER been mad at you till a Mars in Scorpio has been mad at you

LOL, that's me

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cappy1277
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posted February 28, 2010 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cappy1277     Edit/Delete Message
i from personal experience have found that people with scorpio mars to be extreme in their anger,very jealous and spiteful people. my close friend has this and its such a drag.
if we're out somewhere hanging and say all the men are hitting on me and my other friends and not her, she will pout and make us all miserable for the rest of night. if her night is not going right, she'll want to go home early and insist that we all cut our night short. she rarely shows her angry side to us but has a lot of jealousy and spitefullness in her. i tend to stay away from scorpio mars...but i make the exception for her. lol..... she's nothing i can't handle but she works a nerve with my best friend who has an aquarius mars.

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posted February 28, 2010 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starkiss1     Edit/Delete Message
Cappy
Be afraid, be very afraid...

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Ami Ann
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posted February 28, 2010 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Guys,
I love Mars in Scorpio. I ,only, wish I could be as strong, decisive and confident about MYSELF.

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posted February 28, 2010 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cappy1277     Edit/Delete Message
mars in capricorn= no fear

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Cheshire Kat
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posted February 28, 2010 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cheshire Kat     Edit/Delete Message
Mmm, I have Mars opposition Moon and I believe I was born on a Full Moon which means I have Sun opposition the Moon and a Saturn Retrograde.

I don't think I will ever be angry enough to hurt another person, I don't think beating up or killing another person is going to make me feel better or justified in life.

I don't think wishing death upon someone who hurt me deeply is going to make me feel better as a matter of fact, I'd probably feel worse because "hatred" is just this twisted nasty burning feeling to harbor, I can't describe it but before I was doing EFT and art therapy, my insides would practically be on fire sometimes and my heart would just knot up..

It's just one of those God awful feelings I can tell you that much and I know when I am full ready to forgive my mom and move on, I would feel a thousand times better then feeding that "feeling"..

Plus when Im really upset, I just like to be alone and eat Mc Flurries lol.

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Ami Ann
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posted February 28, 2010 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
What sign is your Mars ,Kat? Ami

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Cheshire Kat
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posted February 28, 2010 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cheshire Kat     Edit/Delete Message
Mars in Virgo in the 9th house, forgot about my house position in the original post.

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posted February 28, 2010 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ladya22     Edit/Delete Message
pdf-

who is ladya66?

I am defending myself not my mother... I shouldn't have to quote you (..." quote. I would also question what you describe as 'love' and i would say that having been what you've been through it is likely to be some kind of repressed emotional reaction, flat affectivity and a loss of self-understanding.... ...makes no sense whatsoever and it isn't love. It's confusion.") again if you did not type that I am emotionally defunct in someway then clearly I have a SEVERE reading disorder and as an editor I assure you I do not.

I am not picking a fight with you and just because you had your say you expect me not to have a rebuttal if I don't agree. Too bad that's life.

But on this we agree abuse is abuse and I have no sympathy for abusers however in my life holding on to toxic emotions like that at such a young age made me physically ill until I was able to let it all go -- Damn that Pisces moon! I in no way think she was right, justified or forgivable but I CHOSE to forgive her and what i wrote was not my justifying her behavior but about defending being called emotional retard. So YOU are missing my point.

I am sorry that you and I and Edgar Cpn Winner and Ami had to go through any of this but we did

I feel like we hijacked this thread but hey at least it was a direct display of our mars playing out. Ha

Light and love to all of us!

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posted February 28, 2010 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taurean_Scorpion     Edit/Delete Message
I have Mars in Aquarius and when I'm angry I vent, break down the situation and reason things out...Some people when they're angry like to be alone and think it through while that angers me more because I feel like I need some kind of feedback. I think I like to argue. I have a short temperament and when I'm angered I feel down to my core...It's bad because I can get angry easily despite my Taurus sun. :/ Lol I also say extreme things when I'm mad...

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Ami Ann
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posted February 28, 2010 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Taurean Scorpian . My mother has Mars in Aqua and does she like to fight lol.
She will take ANY side just in order to fight lol.
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posted February 28, 2010 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Ami - That's very well put for Capricorn Mars and for Scorpio Mars.

"An energy of pure detachment" - sometimes it is exactly like that. In almost 90% of anger-related situations *it* really is pure detachment.
But Mars is also about sex and other primal instinctual drives.. and I'm not detached sexually. Although I can be very "picky", but I'm not detached once I'm with the right person.

The man I am in love with has a Scorpio Mars conjunct my Pluto and sextile my Mars.
He is not the only person with Scorpio influence I've attracted. Very often I get Mercury-Venus-Mars in Scorpio.. sometimes the Moon, much more rarely the Sun.

I usually *love* these people.. I mean if anyone can make me feel comfortable expressing sexuality and affection - it is Scorpio placements - because there is a lot of mutual trust.

Scorpio Mars is definitely a powerful placement. When I met my guy I was absolutely in awe of the poker face.. because I have a pretty good one myself, but I was very admiring at how *good* his own was LOL He was in a situation where someone was taking stabs (an attention seeking person).. and I was just surprised at how well he HID his anger..

He also stung the annoying person, later that year.. but *not* at the time.

And you're right in saying Scorpio and Cap are *different*.. Scorpio is a passionate, emotional watery placement.. not at all like Capricorn. They have enough similarities to get along extremely well though (at least in my experience).

I guess, for me, Scorpio placements.. (not only Mars...) seem fragile in a sense (despite their strength). I've been through manya night listening to their cries, their anger, their screaming and shouting, their rage at life, their rage at death.. the energy is really *a lot* to deal with.

I feel like I absorb these feelings. Could that be because of the earthy nature of Cap?
I just feel like a sponge that absorbs all of that..
Capricorn takes life and everything it has to offer with a grain of salt (For Scorpio it's always serious and always a matter of life or death). I can usually find the right thing to say, the right joke to get a smile.. and I usually make these people feel better.

The reason I find them fragile is because they are highly self-destructive. I just have a reaction of concern and care towards them.

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posted February 28, 2010 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message

PDF - I knew you were hinting at that. I'm working with a man who has a close Sun-Mars conj in Taurus. He is a good person overall, but the energy is JUST insane.. It drives me insane lol. He runs up the stairs for 6 floors instead of getting the lift.. and he wants me to run with him - *in* my heels
I could see the same uncontrolled energy coming across as anger and how damaging it could be.

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posted February 28, 2010 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Dear Vapor
*I* know about detached energy cuz I finally understand my unaspected Venus.
So, I can see how Cap Mars could have that detachment with anger.
As far as Mars in Scorpio, it is a strange and new animal to me.
I have a hard time with anger.I don't know I have it half of the time. The other half I am afraid to show it for fear people won't like me lol
So, I have a deep appreciation of an anger which comes out as it is--directly and with strength.
Yes, Mars in Scorpio has deep emotions, as you said, but my Cancer moon understands these,I think.
The direct power of the Mars in Scorpio is what I need to incorporate in to my personality more.
Thanks for all your posts , Vapor. I appreciate them very much ! Ami

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posted February 28, 2010 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message
ladya he won't like the ending of that post.. just letting you know.

----- PDF's next post: No. Not everything is love and light. If you think I'll be nice now and agree to your post so everything is "love and light".. you're more of an idiot than I thought you were in the 1st place. I hate Pisces. I hate Pisces Moons. I just KNEW you'd have something in Pisces... Because Pisces influenced people are absolutely the most pathetic beings to walk the face of this planet.------

Yeah - just prepping you ladya lol

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Ami Ann
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posted February 28, 2010 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Dear Vapor,
So in sexuality --how do Mars and Venus act?
Thanks so much. Ami

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posted February 28, 2010 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message
lol Ami - I just saw your post.. We always post at the same time. I said that ^ tongue in cheek btw. I'm kiddin around..

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As far as Mars in Scorpio, it is a strange and new animal to me.
I have a hard time with anger.I don't know I have it half of the time. The other half I am afraid to show it for fear people won't like me lol
So, I have a deep appreciation of an anger which comes out as it is--directly and with strength.

I'm positive a Scorpio mars would be GREAT for a Cancer mars person. Cancer tends to stay in their shell, as you said, out of fear.
Sometimes anger needs to be *out* there - I agree. If it is never on display it eventually harms you inwardly

Ami - I love your posts very much also!

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posted February 28, 2010 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
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Ami Ann
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posted February 28, 2010 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
LOL about PDF's reaction

Mars in Scorpio is a God send to my timid Mars. It is like seeing someone who is not afraid of his anger when I am afraid of mine.
I was serious about the Mars and Venus in sexuality but that can be the next thread lol.
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