posted April 30, 2010 01:47 AM            

I think the DESC person would be affected more strongly.

Lonake,

posted May 01, 2010 04:00 PM            

saturn ruler of 1st:
trine his moon
square his pluto
kinkunx his merc

mercury ruler of 5H/8H/moon:
trine his merc

moon ruler of 7H: no wonder he's my 1st luv.
conj his sun/merc
square his moon
trine his uranus/neptune/desc
sextile his pluto
kinkunx his saturn

HIM:

moon ruler of 1st:
opp my sun/mars
square my moon
trine my saturn
kinkunx my pluto/asc

pluto ruler of 5H:
sext my moon/uranus/neptune/asc
square my saturn

saturn ruler of 7H:
kinkunx my moon
out of sign square my merc.
square pluto
trine mars

uranus ruler of 8H:
trine my moon
conj my neptune/asc

almost all my friends have their sun/moon in aqua,virgo,sag or scorp...

most of my romantic interests are cancer risings or/and have something in aries.

posted May 02, 2010 01:10 PM            

Houserulers

Me
1st- Pisc- Jup in Sag
Nep in Sag
2nd- Tau- Venus in Sag
4th- Gem- Merc in Sag
5th- Cancer-Moon in Cap
7th- virgo- Merc in Sag
Libra- Venus in Sag
8th- Scorp- Pluto in Lib
Mars in Pisces
Asc in Pisces
Sun in Scorp
Moon in Cap

I have most of my house rulers( 1st,2nd, 4th 7th) in Sag. So anyone making any contact to my Sag house will make an impact on me.

My 1st house has Mars, 2nd,4th, 5th houses are empty, 7th has Pluto/ Uranus and the 8th has Sun.

Him
1st house- Gem-Mer in Libra
2nd- Can-Moon in Can
4th Leo- sun in Libra
5th Virgo- Merc in libra
Libra- Venus in Virgo
7th Sag- Jup in Libra
8th Cap--- Sat in Taurus
He has Sun in Libra
Asc in Gem and Moon in Cancer.

He has 1st, 2, 4 and 7 houses empty. His 5th has Venus(5th ruler), Pluto, Merc(5th,1st ruler) Sun(4th ruler) Urnaus andJupiter( 7th ruler) in his 5th house.
So anyone making contact to his 5th house affects him.

Aspects
Me to him
The way I write would be

House-aspect-planet- ruler of - degree
Ex
1st rul- sextile Sun(4th)-4 deg
1st square venus(5th)- 1 deg
1st sextile Jupiter(7th) 1deg

1st ruler inconjunct Moon (2) 2deg
1st sextile Mer(1,5)-6 deg

1st opp Asc( 3 deg) or I can say
1st conj Dsc( 3deg)
Venus(2nd) square Pluto

I have my identity ruler forming a tense square with his 5th and 2nd but weak sextiles with other rulers. My 1st ruler is conj Dsc, maybe that makes him think of me in romantic terms but with the 5th ruler square this gets overwhelmed.

2nd ruler square NN-0 deg

4th ruler square NN-0 deg
4th sextile MC-4 deg

The sextile between the 4th and 10th may suggest a social relationship.

5th ruler Moon trine 5th ruler Venus- 7 deg
5th square 7th ruler-3 deg
5th sextiles NN- 2 deg

Trines between 5th and 7th ruler must suggest an “ is he/she the right one “ feeling.

8th ruler Pluto conj sun 4th ruler- 7 deg
8th square Moon 2nd ruler- 1 deg
8th conj Merc( ruler of 1st 5th)- 1 deg

Pluto conj Pluto

8th ruler (Mars) inconj Sun (4th ruler)- 0 deg
8th ruler (Mars) opp Venus(5th ruler)-2 deg

Mars sextile Mars
8th ruler(Mars) sextile Saturn(8th ruler) -1 deg

8th ruler (Mars) square Asc- 0 deg
Mars opp Venus suggests attraction but with tensions. Also the Mars sextile Saturn may suggest difficulties in the relationship.

I will post aspects from him to me in the next post.

But please can someone see whether my conclusions are right and what did I miss.

posted May 05, 2010 10:02 AM            

BTW how are you experiencing Mars in 1st house? I think for a woman it is not an easy placement, is it?
Well, must be weird, me asking, as I have Mars conjunct my ASC, but it is from 12th house and conjunct Neptune, so it is a bit foggy for me.

"He has 1st, 2, 4 and 7 houses empty. His 5th has Venus(5th ruler), Pluto, Merc(5th,1st ruler) Sun(4th ruler) Urnaus andJupiter( 7th ruler) in his 5th house.
So anyone making contact to his 5th house affects him."
As long as it is within 5 degrees of a conjunction.

"1st rul- sextile Sun(4th)-4 deg
1st square venus(5th)- 1 deg
1st sextile Jupiter(7th) 1deg"
I would leave out the sextiles for beginners. They will not be in the centre. What will demand your attention are conjunction, opposition and square (and probably solstice conjunctions, oppositions and squares).

1st house ruler squaring 5th house ruler seems to be potent for a physical / erotic attraction, but with the square there might be some friction along with the sizzle.

"1st ruler inconjunct Moon (2) 2deg
1st sextile Mer(1,5)-6 deg"
I don`t think these will be significant.
(REmember, to me only the most individual and strongest aspects are significant; it doesn`t mean that the others have no effect at all, it just means that the strong close ones will grab your attention very quickly and you react to these aspects instinctively and quickly, without consciously thinking about it; almost like there is less choice with these, as they are so "demanding")

"1st conj Dsc( 3deg)"
Ultra strong and intense.
It`s a synastric Venus-Mars-constellation.

"Venus(2nd) square Pluto"
Uncomfortably intense, and probably very posessive, especially since the emphasis is on the 2nd house here. Just think how the Taurus-Scorpio axis feels.

"My 1st ruler is conj Dsc, maybe that makes him think of me in romantic terms but with the 5th ruler square this gets overwhelmed."
I would say, it might get "overwhelming", but it is not necessarily bad.

"5th ruler Moon trine 5th ruler Venus- 7 deg"
Too wide.

Just think of it like that. Aspects are melodies.
Sextiles and trines are harmonious soft melodies.
Squares and opposition are slightly dissonant melodies (but as we all know a good song needs the tension of *some* dissonances to be gripping; too much harmony will make a good lullaby, but nothing else).

And the tighter the orb, the LOUDER the melody is.
And now just think of it.
A 0 square would be a VERY LOUD melody with some dissonances, probably there would be many trumpets or drums.
A 8 sextile would be very harmonious and mellow, probably some violins and flutes, but very very low-key, quiet.

Now imagine both melodies would be played simultaneously, which one could you hear the most?

"5th square 7th ruler-3 deg"
Sun-Venus-constellation.
If you both natally have a Sun-Venus or even more delicious Sun-Mars, or even Moon-VEnus or Moon-Mars constellations, this could actually be very positive.

Constellations mean:
° conjunction, opposition, square, solstice point between these planets
° Moon and Sun in 1,2 or 7; Venus and Mars in 4 or 5
° ruler of house 4 and 5 in 1,2 or 7; ruler of houses 1 and 7 in 4 or 5.

"Trines between 5th and 7th ruler must suggest an “ is he/she the right one “ feeling."
I am not completely sure the trine is really that strong on its own. It suggests great harmony, yes, but it lacks the emotional engagement.
The "This is the ONE" feeling is actually more related to conjunction (as there is only one position that can make a conjunction in the zodiac; while every planet has two trine-positions). I think the trine is more about good feelings about each other, you donīt disturb each other, and there is a beautiful flow, but it doesn`t imply need or passion.

"8th ruler Pluto conj sun 4th ruler- 7 deg"
It`s a strong aspect, but very wide.
Just think of it, the conjunction may be a strong melody, but here it is practically beyond hearing.

"8th square Moon 2nd ruler- 1 deg"
This one is much stronger than the one above. Energetic aspect (square), very loud (1 degree).
Plus it connects 8th and 2nd house, which are complimentary houses (Venus/Taurus-Pluto/Scorpio).
If you have natally Venus-Pluto or Mars-Pluto constellations, especially in relation to 2nd house (not so much to 7th house, even though it could work,t oo), it might become a dominant theme. With all the intensity and passion there is. Adn since 2nd house is about security (I am always mistyping this word as "sexurity" lately, when I write about 2nd house; I wonder if that means something ), there might be issues here, too. Either you can give each other security and strive to make this a lasting bond, or one of you will deny exactly this, which might lead to jealousy and posessiveness or a seemingly coldness / detachment (to cover up these feelings of insecurity). This might be more likely if only one of you has Venus-Pluto or Mars-Pluto in their chart, and the other may have Venus-Uranus, Mars-Uranus or even Venus-Jupiter, Mars-Jupiter. Could easily get disbalanced then.

"8th conj Merc( ruler of 1st 5th)- 1 deg"
Jeez, another such strong aspect there!
The three houses that are revolving around sex (1st house- biological sexdrive; 5th house - playful, erotic sex; 8th house - sex that merges two souls and transforms them), are connected here in a strong close aspect.
(th house ruler conjunct 1st house ruler is the constellation Mars-Pluto. And you also had Venus-Pluto-constellation.
Now I am curious, DO any of you have Venus-Pluto or Mars-Pluto in their natals?

"8th ruler (Mars) opp Venus(5th ruler)-2 deg"
Another strong one. There seems to be a theme here.

"8th ruler (Mars) square Asc- 0 deg"
And this is yet another Mars-Pluto-constellation.
Wow, handle with care! Maybe too hot to handle.
Unless both of you want it that way (look for natal confirmation).

"Mars opp Venus suggests attraction but with tensions."
Yes.

posted May 05, 2010 01:59 PM            

"5th square 7th ruler-3 deg"
Sun-Venus-constellation.
If you both natally have a Sun-Venus or even more delicious Sun-Mars, or even Moon-VEnus or Moon-Mars constellations, this could actually be very positive.

Constellations mean:
° conjunction, opposition, square, solstice point between these planets
° Moon and Sun in 1,2 or 7; Venus and Mars in 4 or 5
° ruler of house 4 and 5 in 1,2 or 7; ruler of houses 1 and 7 in 4 or 5.

I checked my natal and his for constellations. I have a sun-mars square though it is too wide(9 deg).

He on the other hand-

He has a 2 deg sun mars square and a 6 degree moon mars square.
His moon is in the natal 1st house and is synastrically conj my IC.
His venus is in his natal 4th house and
the rulers of his 1st and 5th house are in his natal 5th house.

So WOW what is all that? How does it affect the aspect I have with him?

8th square Moon 2nd ruler- 1 deg"
This one is much stronger than the one above. Energetic aspect (square), very loud (1 degree).
Plus it connects 8th and 2nd house, which are complimentary houses (Venus/Taurus-Pluto/Scorpio).
If you have natally Venus-Pluto or Mars-Pluto constellations, especially in relation to 2nd house (not so much to 7th house, even though it could work,t oo), it might become a dominant theme. With all the intensity and passion there is. Adn since 2nd house is about security (I am always mistyping this word as "sexurity" lately, when I write about 2nd house; I wonder if that means something ), there might be issues here, too. Either you can give each other security and strive to make this a lasting bond, or one of you will deny exactly this, which might lead to jealousy and posessiveness or a seemingly coldness / detachment (to cover up these feelings of insecurity). This might be more likely if only one of you has Venus-Pluto or Mars-Pluto in their chart, and the other may have Venus-Uranus, Mars-Uranus or even Venus-Jupiter, Mars-Jupiter. Could easily get disbalanced then.

posted May 05, 2010 08:41 PM            

1st,5th ruler(Mer) sextile Sun 3 deg
Mer conj Pluto(8th rul)-1 deg
1st, 5th ruler(Mer) trine NN-4 deg

The 1st ruler and NN trine indicates deep bonds that probably means that we have something to teach each other in the future.

2nd rul(moon) inconj sun 1 deg
2nd rul inconj 1st rul( nep)- 2deg
2nd rul square 8th rul( pluto)- 1 deg
2nd rul square Asc-5 deg

The 2nd-8th square has Scorpionic overtones.
The 2nd ruler esp moon squaring Asc- does it indicate emotional blackmail?

4th rul( sun) inconj 8th rul(pluto)-0 deg
4th rul sextile 1st rul( jup)-4 deg
4th rul conj 8th rul( pluto)-7 deg
4th rul trine NN 1 deg

Again!! the trine with NN- does this mean that we have a debt to pay from past lives?
The 4th and 8th rul conj is wide but does it mean a merge of sex and family ?

5th rul(ven) trine 5th rul( moon)-7deg
5th rul Ven opp 8th rul Mars -(2 deg)
5th rul square 1st rul(jup)-(1 deg)
5th rul square 1st rul( nep)- 8 deg

The mars venus opp means a tense attraction.

7th rul(jupiter) squre Moon(5th)- 3 deg

8th rul( saturn) sextile 8th rul( mars)-1 deg
8th rul square NN-0 deg

What is the thing with so many NN connections from him to me? Am I supposed to learn something from him and then he leaves my life. He keeps on leaving my life and coming back. I can't figure out what I am learning from him.

His pluto is trine my moon at 6 deg. So his deep dark planet is influencing my emotions and not in a good way, since he is capable of hurting me easily.

All opinions and thoughts welcome. I learn a lot from all of your perspectives.

posted May 09, 2010 12:56 PM            

thanks for the description of Mars in 1st house. It is exactly how I feel, too.

"The 1st ruler and NN trine indicates deep bonds that probably means that we have something to teach each other in the future."
Not sure how strong it is with the trine though. But generally speaking I would agreee.

"2nd rul square 8th rul( pluto)- 1 deg"
Emotional blackmail is possible, but not inevitable. Issues of selfworth and security will be important.
Could be very binding, even against ones conscious will.

"4th rul trine NN 1 deg

Again!! the trine with NN- does this mean that we have a debt to pay from past lives?"
Not with the trine. Maybe it is more indicative of a depth that already has been payed, and therefore you can be harmoniously supportive?

"The 4th and 8th rul conj is wide but does it mean a merge of sex and family ?"
4th is indicative of family, yes, but even before that, it is about one`s own deepest emotional nature.
Anyway the conjunction is too wide to be considered strong.

"What is the thing with so many NN connections from him to me? Am I supposed to learn something from him and then he leaves my life. He keeps on leaving my life and coming back."
This would probably more due to Uranian - Saturnian/Plutonian interplay.

"How does the NN influence the ruler aspects, is it a positive or negative kind of attraction?"
Depends on the aspects. But basically the stronger the aspects, the stronger the influence.

"i saw what vapor posted on the breakup post about things not taking off due to pluto aspects or unaspected mercury leading to breakdown in communication."
I am not convinced of this statement to be true in all cases, even though I agree that the breaking down of communication will be desastrous for any relationship. But Communication is not only due to Mercury. First of all you would have to check the ruler of 3rd house and planets in 3rd house for verbal communication, too. Besides there is also a lot of nonverbal communication, which has more to do with Moon than with Mercury.

posted May 10, 2010 04:14 AM            

I am going to post a short synastry analysis on Jude and Sienna later on, when I have more time, as they have interesting synastry.

But so far, I think these things (among others) can point to the possibility of on-and-off relationships:

° simultaneous presence of strong Saturnian / Plutonian AND Uranian aspects in synastry (maybe even indicated through strong natal influence of these planets - which is true for Jude and Sienna)

posted May 10, 2010 06:08 AM            

elementary compatibility

compatible same elements)
his Sun-her Sun
his Moon-her Moon
her Mercury-his Sun
his Moon-her Moon
his Moon-her Venus
his Moon - her Mars
his MC - her Moon
his MC - her Venus
his MC - her Mars

inimical squaring signs/elements)
his Moon - her Sun
his Sun - her Mars
his Mars- her Venus
his Mars - her Moon

Distribution seems to be okayish, even though there are not THAT many Yin-Yang planets being highly compatible.

But it is just about the very basic traits of their characters.
I found it noteable that his Moon and MC seem to be the most prominent planets / angles in the compatible connections, but neither his Venus nor his Mars is highly compatible with her chart, while her Venus and Mars are compatible with his Moon and MC (and Moon also being in his natal 10th house!)

HOUSESOVERLAY:
her Moon, Mercury and Venus in his 2nd house
her Mars in his 10th house
her Sun in his 1st house

the Sun in 1st house, especially since it is exactly conjunct his Sun, indicates some similiarities in their personality / temperament.

The strong emphasis on the 2nd house can mean there is a great emphasis or seeking for security. She can influence his selfvalue greatly, maybe there will be some materialistic tendencies, but in the best (most loving) case the 2nd house emphasis, espcially with her Venus being there, can lead to a calm, sensual, comforting, appreciative relationship.
It`s certainly not a wildly passionate and exciting overlay, but it has its strong sides.

BASIC connection (sun, Moon, ASC- orb 5°; 2° for sextiles)

his Sun conjunct her Sun (0)
his Sun square her Mars (2)
his MC square her Sun (2)

COMMUNICATION (Mercury)

no aspects of Mercury to personal planets

ROMANCE (Venus and Mars)

her Venus sextile his ASC (0)
her Venus trine his MC (0)
her Mars square his Sun (2)
her Mars conjunct his MC (3)

SOCIAL interaction (Jupiter and Saturn and MC)(orb 4 degrees; 2 degrees for sextiles)

hsi MC square her Sun (2)
his MC trine her Venus (0)
his Jupiter conjunct her Mercury (0)
his Jupiter square her Saturn 84)
her Jupiter sextile his Sun 82)
her Saturn sextile his Mercury (0)

EVOLUTIONARY experience (Uranus, Neptune, Pluto) orb: 3 degrees; 1-2 degrees for sextiles

hsi Uranus conjunct her Saturn 81)
(her Uranus conjunct his Mars 3,5)
his Neptune sextile her Mars (0)
his Pluto square her Sun (2)
his Pluto conjunct her Mars (1)
her Pluto conjunct his Moon (0)

LIFEPATH (NN)
his NN conjunct her Mercury (0)
her NN square his Uranus (0)

There doesnīt seem to be a lot of basic romantic compatibility; especially on his side there is a lack of romance aspects evident (His Venus has just NO aspects to her chart, and his Mars only has one wide conjunction to her Uranus).

BUT there are several sizzling hot ones including the Sun-Mars-square.

The aspectt that really stand out are the strong, positive aspects to his MC - his status, career and public recognition are very much in the centre.
With her Mars conjunct his MC she probably can push him towards his goals. On the other hand, if Mars tells us somethinga bout a girlīs "dream-guy", then he might fit her image ideally, when it comes to his public image. It`s like falling in love (or lust) with a personīs public image rather than the person behind it.
her Venus has a very exact sextile to his ASC, so I guess she likes him (sextile is an aspect of liking more than loving though).

But what makes the strongest impression are the really intense Pluto aspects.

Pluto conjunct Mars and Pluto conjunct Moon.
sounds very passionate, maybe even obsessive and potentially destructive to me.
ESPECIALLY since her Mars is conjunct his Pluto on his MC and squaring his Sun - so they share their incompatibility and attraction to each other with the whole world. this aspect is very visible.

these Pluto aspects may be what pull them back to each other again and again, until whatever Karma is left between them, will be finished.

What breaks them apart may be the lack of aspects alltogether (they really donīt share that many aspects) and especially a lack of romantic / emotional compatibility through synastry aspects.
the uranus-mars conjunction could make for an On and Off thing, too.

They actually got back together when his pr Venus was conjunct her pr Venus, and his pr Sun was trine her pr Mars.
Since her Venus is retograde, it moves into the opposite direction than his. and by now the Venus-conjunction is separating, and the Sun-Mars-trine having reached exactness is separating, too.

it will be interesting to see, what is being left in, let`s say, 6 months from now.

his 7th house ruler only has a sextile to her Saturn - that is very meagre for a relationship,t hat is supposed to end in a marriage.

his 5th house ruler does not get any aspects at all.

BUT his 8th house ruler is really affected.

Conjunct her Pluto
conjunct her Sun
square her Mars

So, this emphasises the Plutonic theme even more.
This seems like a highly transformative relationship, probably karmic.

posted May 10, 2010 01:04 PM            

1) ELEMENTAL compatibility

compatible:
His Sun - her Moon: Air
his Moon - her Sun: Water
his Moon - her Venus: water
his Venus - her ASC: earth
his ASC - her ASC: earth
his Sun - her MC: Air
his Sun - her Mercury: Air
his Mercury - her ASC: Earth
his MC - her Sun: water
his MC - her Venus: water

inimical:
his Mercury - her MC: cardinal earth/ air
his Venus - her MC: cardinal earth / air
his Mars - her ASC: cardinal fire /earth
his MC - her Moon: fixed water / air
his MC - her Mercury: fixed water / air
his MC - her Venus: fixed water / air

(2) houses overlay
his Sun, Mercury, Venus and ASC in her 1st house
his Moon in her 2nd
his Mars in her 3rd
his MC in her 10th

her Mercury, Mars and ASC in his 1st
her Sun, Moon, Venus in his 2nd
her MC in his 9th

(3) basic connection

his Moon trine her MC
his ASC sextile her Venus
his ASC conjunct her ASC
her Sun trine his MC
her Moon sextile his Mars
her ASC conjunct his Mercury
her ASC conjunct his Venus

(a broad ground of basic compatibility they could build on)

(4) Romance

his Venus sextile her Venus
his Venus conjunct her ASC
his Mars sextile her Moon
her Venus sextile his Mercury
her Venus sextile his ASC
her Venus trine his MC

nice to see a relatively even distribution of Venus and Mars aspects.

(5) communication

his Mercury sextile her Venus
his Mercury conjunct her ASC

(6) social area

his Jupiter sextile her Sun
his Jupiter conjunct her Saturn
his Jupiter conjunct her ASC
his Saturn square her Mercury
his Saturn trine her Venus
his SAturn square her Mars
his SAturn sextile her ASC
her Jupiter trine his Sun
her Saturn conjunct his Mercury
her Saturn conjunct his Venus (4°45)
her Saturn conjunct his ASC
her Saturn sextile his MC
his MC trine her Sun
his MC trine her Venus
her MC trine his Moon

(Wow, they did have a good "cushion")

(7) evolutionary themes

his Neptune opposite her Moon
her Neptune opposite his Moon
his Pluto trine her Venus
his Pluto opposite her Saturn
his Pluto conjunct her DESC
her Pluto oppsoite his Venus

(8) nodal axis

his SN conjunct her Mercury
his SN Conjunct her Mars
her NN square his Sun
her NN conjunct his IC

(9) houses 7 and 8

his 7th house ruler:
opposite her Neptune
trine her MC
conjunct her Sun/Moon-mp

his 8th house ruler:
trine her Jupiter
square her NN
trine her 12thouse ruler

sextile her Venus
conjunct her Saturn
conjunct her ASC
sextile her 5th house ruler
sextile her MC ruler
conjunct her ASC-ruler

his 5th house ruler:
sextile her Venus
conjunct her Saturn
conjunct her ASC
conjunct her ASC-ruler

her 7th house ruler:
sextile his Mars
opposite his Neptune
sextile his MC-ruler

her 8th house ruler:
sextile his Jupiter
trine his Pluto
trine his MC
trine his 12th house rler

her 5th house ruler:
sextile his Mercury
sextile his Venus
trine his Saturn
trine his Pluto
sextile his ASC
trine his MC
sextile his 5th and 8th house ruler
sextile his 4th house ruler
trine his ASC-ruler
trine his MC-ruler

posted May 10, 2010 06:41 PM            

i had a query about what you wrote on my post.
I am quoting below some part of it

"8th square Moon 2nd ruler- 1 deg"
This one is much stronger than the one above. Energetic aspect (square), very loud (1 degree).
Plus it connects 8th and 2nd house, which are complimentary houses (Venus/Taurus-Pluto/Scorpio).
If you have natally Venus-Pluto or Mars-Pluto constellations, especially in relation to 2nd house (not so much to 7th house, even though it could work,t oo), it might become a dominant theme. With all the intensity and passion there is. Adn since 2nd house is about security (I am always mistyping this word as "sexurity" lately, when I write about 2nd house; I wonder if that means something ), there might be issues here, too. Either you can give each other security and strive to make this a lasting bond, or one of you will deny exactly this, which might lead to jealousy and posessiveness or a seemingly coldness / detachment (to cover up these feelings of insecurity). This might be more likely if only one of you has Venus-Pluto or Mars-Pluto in their chart, and the other may have Venus-Uranus, Mars-Uranus or even Venus-Jupiter, Mars-Jupiter. Could easily get disbalanced then.

"8th conj Merc( ruler of 1st 5th)- 1 deg"
Jeez, another such strong aspect there!
The three houses that are revolving around sex (1st house- biological sexdrive; 5th house - playful, erotic sex; 8th house - sex that merges two souls and transforms them), are connected here in a strong close aspect.
(th house ruler conjunct 1st house ruler is the constellation Mars-Pluto. And you also had Venus-Pluto-constellation.
Now I am curious, DO any of you have Venus-Pluto or Mars-Pluto in their natals?

"8th ruler (Mars) opp Venus(5th ruler)-2 deg"
Another strong one. There seems to be a theme here.

"8th ruler (Mars) square Asc- 0 deg"
And this is yet another Mars-Pluto-constellation.
Wow, handle with care! Maybe too hot to handle."

posted May 12, 2010 10:36 AM            

My natals:

1st house:
ruler: moon (in pisces in 8th house)
no planets in 1st

2nd house:
ruler: sun (in gemini in 11th house)
no planets in 2nd

4th house:
ruler: venus (in gemini in 11th house)
uranus in 4th/close to 5th

5th house:
ruler: mars (in taurus in 10th)
neptune fire singleton in sag in 5th

7th house:
ruler: saturn (in gemini in 3rd)
no planets in 7th

8th house:
ruler: saturn (in gemini in 3rd)

10th house:
ruler: mars (in taurus in 10th)
mars in 10th

My significant other has:

1st house:
ruler: venus (in cancer in 9th, close to MC, which is ruled by moon)
uranus in 1st house

2nd house:
ruler: mars (in gemini in 9th)
neptune in sag in 2nd

4th house:
ruler: saturn (in leo, in 10th)
no planets in 4th

5th house:
ruler: saturn (in leo, in 10th)
no planets in 5th

7th house:
ruler: mars (in gemini, in 9th)
no planets in 7th

8th house:
ruler: venus (in cancer, in 9th)
no planets

10th house:
ruler: moon (in virgo, in 11th)
saturn conjunct sun in 10th

OUR ASPECTS - (All within 3 degree orb unless otherwise stated)

My 1st H ruler - moon - opp his 10th H ruler - moon
My 1st opp his mercury
My 1st square his 7th H ruler - mars
My 1st trine his MC

Unfortunately, his 1st H ruler (which is also his 8th H ruler) - venus - makes no direct aspects to my planets or rulers, unless you count moon widely trine venus, and venus parallel to AC within a 1 degree orb. His venus is also forms a sextile to my chiron in 10th H. Not sure if this counts for something.

My 2nd H ruler not making any aspect to his planets but his Sun conjunct saturn is right on the cusp of my 2nd H. Does this mean he makes me feel secure?

On the other hand, his 2nd H ruler (which is also his 7th), forms many aspects to my planets/H rulers -

His 2nd H/7th H ruler - mars - conjunct my venus (4th H ruler) - focus on building a secure home life?
His 2nd/7th square my moon (1st H ruler) - what does this mean?
His 2nd/7th opp my neptune singleton in 5th house.
His 2nd/7th trines my Pluto.

My 4th H ruler -venus - conjuncts his 2nd H ruler - mars
My 4th squares his 10th - moon - by 4 degree
My 4th squares his mercury - by 4 degree
My 4th H tightly sextiles his 4th/5th
My 4th trines his AC

His 4th/5th H ruler - saturn - squares my 10th H ruler -mars
His 4th/5th H sextiles my 4th
His 4th/5th H trines my neptune singleton in 5th
His 4th/5th H ruler squares my chiron in 10th

My 5th/10th H ruler - mars - squares his Sun
My 5th/10th H trines his moon
My 5th/10th H trines his mercury
My 5th/10th H squares his 4th/5th H ruler -

My 7th/8th H ruler - saturn - parallel his moon - bad?
His 8th H ruler - venus - only forms parallel to my AC and sextile to my chiron in 10th

His 10th H ruler - moon - opp my 1st H ruler - moon
His 10th square my mercury (over 4 degree)
His 10th square my 4th - venus (over 4 degree)
His 10th trine my 10th
His 10th square my neptune
His 10th sextile my AC

All in all, there's plenty of aspects between our 2nd, 4th, 5th, 7th and 10th rulers but not so much between our 1st and 8th. My AC conjunct his MC though.

Our would you interpret our relationship, DD?

posted May 13, 2010 02:31 PM            

people have sex even without aspects to the 8th house.
Don`t forget the 5th house in this regard!

Fiona,

posted May 13, 2010 03:02 PM            

I love when you talk house rulers. Your previous posts on this subject got me more into astrology, you gifted teacher, you!

I'll be back to read this whole thread, so far just got the 1st post.

Sorry if you already got into this, but do you look at house rulers in composites?

posted May 13, 2010 03:11 PM            

Yes I think the houserulers are just as valid in composites.