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racole12
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posted May 15, 2010 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message
Hey DD what if there Drac chart is completely opposite than their Natal... as in all my Sag planets are in Gemini. I hope it doesn't mean that my 2 purposes are going two completely different directions... LOL

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posted May 15, 2010 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
I guess this emphasises the need to leave the past behind, even more so than in other cases.

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posted May 15, 2010 02:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message
I'm usually pretty good at staying detached and moving on (I guess that's from all that Saggie in me. LOL) But there are the few people that stay with me.. I usually pick up and move every two years to a different city- to soak in new people, cultures, jobs..etc etc. A lot of people usually end up getting frustrated with me b/c of this, they don't understand how I can just shift gears/start down a new path without considering the past. But, like I said, there a few people that stay in my heart

Makes me worry that I won't be able to get married b/c of this... b/c I do want to get married one day...LOL

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posted May 15, 2010 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ohmybaby     Edit/Delete Message
Your icy heart needs to melt.

And I do think you'll evvventually get married to one of the many millions of guys in the world, maybe you'll even find your twin flame.

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posted May 15, 2010 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Racole,

I think maybe this particular Draco-tropical alignment could mean that you`re supposed to meet and love someone new, not someone you have spent a gazillion lifetimes with? Or at least try out new paths?

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posted May 15, 2010 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message
I'm not too sure... all of my ex's always come back into my life and I usually say no and move on. I usually like trying out "new things" LOL- I always believed there is always someone out there that is "better" suited for me. Over the last year my outlook has changed to maybe there isn't someone out there is "better"...maybe that person has been right in front of me all along and b/c I have been always searching/looking for something new I've been completely missing it.

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posted May 15, 2010 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message
Anyway DD... I have a guy in my life that if "twinflames" are real... then he is it. We both believe it... we both tried to be in a relationship together but we were too much alike and there was no challenge or growth happening. But if one of us or the other is seriously hurting we do come together to help each other heal. We have this weird connection telepathically- and we have turned that into a game. LOL. But anyway, we know aren't suppose to be in each other's lives (in a romantic way)... if that's what you meant. It took him and I some time to realize that even those we have this amazing connection that we aren't meant to be together- it was totally heartbreaking for us.

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posted May 15, 2010 07:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Hey all

I have natally
dr sun cj my n NN
dr karma opp my n NN
dr saturn/NN cj my n chiron
dr lilith cj my n sun
my dr venus and n chiron are always cj everyone's dr NN.

In synastry:
my dr lilith is cj his n sun
my dr valentine cj his n NN
his dr venus opp my n pluto
his dr mars opp my n amor
his dr juno cj my n kaali
his dr valentine cj my n valentine
his dr eros cj my n DC
his dr psyche cj my n juno/karma and opp my n sun/mercury

his dr NN cj my dr saturn
his dr psyche cj my dr neptune
his dr psyche opp my dr lilith
his dr MC opp my dr AC
his dr sun opp my dr AC
his dr jupiter opp my dr AC

I love the draconic analysis and it definitely rings true for my natal aspects in this lifetime

Great topic!!

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posted May 16, 2010 06:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Racole,

" I always believed there is always someone out there that is "better" suited for me. Over the last year my outlook has changed to maybe there isn't someone out there is "better"...maybe that person has been right in front of me all along and b/c I have been always searching/looking for something new I've been completely missing it."

That`s exactly the place I am in. Really reflects my thoughts with eery accuracy.


Lara,

nice to read of you again.
And yes, my Draco-natals make a lot of sense, too. Draco Moon exact on my DESC and conjunct my SN, need I tell more?
Dr Pluto and Dr MC on my Anubis - well I better not go THERE at all I think. This is one that scares me a bit.
But it is on the Sabian: A woman reading tealeaves - that kinda soothese me a bit again.
Dr Valentine exactly on my Pisces-Juno and exact trine my Saturn - this is an interesting one.
Dr BML and DR osc Lilith and dr Psyche conjunct my SN - I guess I must have had a few rather eventful past lives (my Kaali and Inannen are on my SN and conjunct Karma, too).


Dr asteroid Lilith and Dr Hekate fall flat onto my Sun-Mercury-Merlin-Circe-Caesar-Kleopatra on GC. My Dr name falls flat onto my Hekate-Lilith conjunction.

I know that these are some asteroids and not main objects, but I found them interesting to mention, especially as they seem to make some sense.


But I think the BIGGEST really is my Dr Moon exactly on my DESC.
trine my DR Karma on my regular MC/PLuto.

I wonder if by comparing the Draco-Draco we could get a clear picture of past life connections with people. We could actually read it as a normal synastry chart.

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posted May 16, 2010 07:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
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posted May 16, 2010 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message
It's so interesting that everone say here.

My DR venus and DR mars DR hygiea, DR tyche conj everyones DR N.N

My DR valentine/DR Siva/DR ixion conj my N prosperina
My DR moon conj my N saturn
My DR karma/ DR nept conj my N sun/AC in leo

My DR merk/DR uran/ conj my N moon/N nessus

Everything in my Draconic chart aspect something in my Tropical.

Should Draconic chart show an old soul?

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posted May 16, 2010 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Popcorn,

do you have a clear perception of what these conjunctions want to tell you?

My DR moon conj my N saturn
My DR karma/ DR nept conj my N sun/AC in leo
My DR merk/DR uran/ conj my N moon/N nessus

"Should Draconic chart show an old soul?"
I am not convinced of this.

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posted May 16, 2010 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
I am currently considering differentiating between Draco-Draco and Draco-tropical in an analysis.

Draco-Draco:
including all houseplacements and aspects we also use for natal as indications for past life relationships.


Draco-natal:
only conjunctions (maybe oppositions); these will indicate how the past (or the soul`s purpose) is "anchored" into our present life.

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posted May 16, 2010 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message
DD... now I'm really curious to see your chart. LOL. I wonder if this is a Saggie thing...? Always looking for something better. LOL

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posted May 16, 2010 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Well, I do have enough Sag-influence, that`s for sure.


my tropical natal chart

my Draco chart:

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posted May 16, 2010 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message
Here are mine if you are curious!

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posted May 16, 2010 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Wanna check if we have past life-connections (Draco-Draco)?.

I spotted with one glance that there is at least one EXACT connection from Draco to tropical.

Your Draco ASC precisely conjuncts my Venus (and my Isis, Osiris is conjunct my Venus).


EDIT:
JEEZ, your Dr Mars is exactly opposing my Venus. Your Dr Moon and Dr Karma are precisely on my regular Valentine (true love).

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posted May 16, 2010 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message
LOL. You are too cute!

EDIT:
Also, your Dr Vx and Eros is conj my N Venus... geesh

Your Drac Venus is conj my Drac Pluto as well.
(Pluto Venus conjuction are a (beep!)... the twinflame guy and I have this and it's almost exact- it was all consuming!

Double EDIT:

Do you attract people from different cultures as well (wondering if it's a Saggie thing)...

My 3 clostest friends are from Germany, Russia and Mexico. And the guy I'm interested in is from the same city as me but he was stationed in Germany for 6 yrs. The guy before him (the one I think is my twinflame) is from Alaska and looks totally opposite of me. I'm blonde, blue eyes and pale and he is dark hair, dark eyes and dark skin...

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posted May 16, 2010 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
I didn`t really think about it before, but I guess you are true.

My first love was Dutch, my best friend at that time was half Dutch, my best friend in highschool was German like me, but had a Nigerian father, my best friend is half Irish, one of my closest friends is Swedish (we are really close even though we cannot meet that often due to the distance), I have had email-friends in England and Russia and America (and yes, we actually have met. ).

So I guess you could say that I I attract foreigners.
But actually it doesn´t really matter to me, from which country people are (except that I find it interesting to hear about the different cultures and cultural habits).
The internet was actually a big blessing for me, as I didn`t have to "limit" myself to exchange experiences within my own cultural background, but could connect with people no matter in what corner of the earth they are.
It actually felt "freeing" to me.

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posted May 16, 2010 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message
That's how I feel about the internet too! I totally feel the same thing about soaking up different cultures. It makes me feel alive. I just got back from Paris- visit one of my friends and I just started making plans to visit another friend that in Athens.

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posted May 16, 2010 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message
This is crazy how many connections we have between the Drac-Tropic/Drac. Have you ever came across 2 charts that don't have any connections?

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posted May 16, 2010 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
I just noticed my regular Karma falls exactly on my Draco 3rd house cusp. Probably I have karma with sisters / brothers from a previous life?


But regarding our DRaco-Draco-comparision:

Your Mercury, Neptune, Sun, Psyche and Mars are sitting in my 3rd house.
Your ASC sits in my 9th house.
A brotherly connection? Or a relationship that - at least for me- seems to have had a strong communicative touch.
Could be sisters, brothers, but also friends, maybe pupils visiting the same school or Guru.

Your Jupiter in my 11th house would emphasise the friendship-theme. Jupiter rules your intercepted 12th house. Maybe you were helpful from "behind the scenes"? Or like a guru / teacher, and we became friends?
I also get the notion of an elder sibling here. With your Jupiter exact sextile my Sun and Mercury, it seems to have been a positive interaction.

Your Saturn, as ruler of your ASC, in my 12th house - makes me again think that you may have been elder or more mature, effecting me from either a spiritual place or behind the scenes.
Your Saturn widely conjuncts my ASC and Mars - so you had a structuring influence on me?

Your Pluto in my 1st house, and it is precisely conjunct my Venus!
Wow! You must have been a very transforming, powerful influence on me, which impacted my whole sense of Self (in my 1st house).
Venus-Pluto of course is THE soulmate-connection (at least according to many books). Could have been a passionate love affair.
But with your Sun-stellium in my 3rd house, I think the transformation maybe have been connected to "matters of the mind".
Your Sun and Neptune in Gemini are also sextile your Pluto and my Venus.

Your Venus in my 2nd house, but without strong aspects. There may ahve been (financial) assistance, or strengthening of selfworth.


With your Uranus in my 2nd house, maybe there was some unpredictability and you shook up my sense of security.


Your Moon and Karma in my 8th house - well, wow, this does speak of quite an intense emotional connection. One that does seem to relate to a personal relationship. But with Karma being there, too, maybe that intense relationship had happened in the life before that one, and in that life we were friends / brothers/sisters/teacher and pupil?

Your Chiron sits in the 8th, too, and is conjunct my Vertex and Eros there. So it seems there has been wounding (and healing) to the possible erotic side of it.


Your Karma and Moon exactly trine my ASC and also trine my Mars and Neptune and my IC, so I guess there was a harmonious emotional relationship, one that was very significant.


Your Sun and Psyche are conjunct my Ceres. Your Ceres conjunct my Chiron. So there is a strong nurturing theme here, but probably not all that easy, especially for you.


I like these kind of exercises.


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posted May 16, 2010 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message
Wow, You are good with thinking up a story/plot of the type of possibility that could of happened. I'm jealous! lol

I'm not too good with that...LOL. I was trying to come up with a story with the guy I compared my drac too... but it's really hard for me. I guess I'm too connected to the situation. I'm better with the math/calculations...

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posted May 16, 2010 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
I think in most comparisions we will find links from Draco-tropical or Draco-Draco, just like we always find some links between regular charts. The meaning depends on the overall pattern of a chart.
Also, how many are there? How close are these?
I think true soulmates have at least ONE precise (0 degree; maybe 1 degree, but really not more) conjunction / opposition to ASC, MC, Sun, Moon or NN.

(from major planets and Vertex and BML; am not sure about asteroids, cause the more asteroids we include, the more connections we will get of course.)

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posted May 16, 2010 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
I love stories.
And every chart tells one.

Mmh, start with the planets falling into the houses.
Start with Stelliums, Sun, Moon, ASC, MC, ASC, ruler of ASC.

The houses they fall in will direct your thoughts towards a certain area, Just like in our case it was 3rd house. 3rd house is communication, learning, brother, sister, and then go from there.

If you think you cannot detach from that guy, start with checking my Draco planets in your houses. Wehre is the emphasis? In what area of life would we have interacted? (in this case it is more about you, how you would have experienced me)
And if you have done that you could continue with your guy.

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