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Topic: Inaccurate Birth Times..... Glaucus question
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Lioness Knowflake Posts: 3849 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted August 12, 2010 03:34 PM
the pic is blurry because of the Cheap Camera phone... LOL Correction I did go to one concert before.. I was about 22 a friend one tickets on the radio.. So I went... I couldnt wait to leave. I was miserable.. I spent most of the time in the box (radio station had a box) I even fell asleep.. I had a big gap in my front teeth when I was little, but as I grew it closed on its on.. Yes I have my issues with men..
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Geocosmic* Valentine Knowflake Posts: 1188 From: New York, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 12, 2010 03:40 PM
Lioness,I need you to think back to 1987 and 1988. In your chart I detected some kind of heartbreak and then in 1988 something came to an end for you or your mother or both. There might have been a move/geographic relocation connected with it, but the most important part is whether or not you moved or ended something within the year 1988. I'm testing the angles again, the MC this time. Solar Saturn=IC in 1988 if the 3 degree Cancer MC/IC Axis is correct. Please confirm. Also, the gap between the teeth is an interesting concept for the Aries ASC, but I'm not betting the bank on it. I still have my gap.  IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 5819 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 12, 2010 03:40 PM
Lioness,The way you described yourself and how you look reminds me of Meghann. I think that you have a Pisces Ascendant like her. On the other hand, you do have Neptune trine Ascendant. In Right Ascension, it's only 7 minutes of arc. You said that you can relate to some of the Aries Ascendant stuff. You're a very pretty lady.
The combination of your Pluto oppose Ascendant,Neptune trine Ascendant,and Venus square Ascendant can indicate a very charming,attractive appearance. ------------------ Raymond Andrews, President,Executive Director of Developmental Neurodiversity Association Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement A Different Mind Is Not A Deficient Mind. http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=131944976821905&ref=ts IP: Logged |
Lioness Knowflake Posts: 3849 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted August 12, 2010 03:41 PM
Ok another Pic.. pictures removed. IP: Logged |
StarrofVenusGirl Knowflake Posts: 1314 From: Down the Rabbit Hole Registered: Jun 2009
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posted August 12, 2010 03:45 PM
I am thinking she is definitely Pisces too Raymond.I am finding that Pisces women (Sun, Moon, Rising) have very interesting eyes. I get that myself all the time. I was hoping for a better look at your eyes. It doesn't really matter what color they are, but they are usually big and bright and...for lack of a better word, captivating? Yours are big, blue (?) and beautiful. I get told I have nice eyes often. My best friend Stephanie and I share a Pisces Ascendant and she has the most amazing shockingly blue eyes ever that get noticed all the time. Do you get compliments on them? I think Linda even said Pisces women have clear, beautiful eyes. I am not one to put a lot of stake in how Ascendants influence the appearance but I think she was on the money with that one. ------------------ My Chart IP: Logged |
Geocosmic* Valentine Knowflake Posts: 1188 From: New York, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 12, 2010 03:47 PM
Absolutely lovely! You look great!Here's a big question dealing with the present. If your MC Axis is truly 3 degrees, transiting Pluto is currently conjunct your MC. Are you having strong issues with your career right now? Making strong decisions, big changes in your status? Changing jobs or anything like that on the horizon. This would be very big stuff. If you were 65 right now I'd ask you what your retirement plans are. This is a huge transit in a persons life. IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 5819 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 12, 2010 03:47 PM
Lioness,very pretty!  It's hard to decide You look like you could be a Pisces Ascendant,and I see similarities with you and Meghann. but it could still be your Neptune trine Ascendant and the one in Right Ascension is almost exact and so should be a dominant influence that greatly factors into the appearance There is definitely a fey-look to you that is reflected by Neptune influencing your Ascendant.
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Lioness Knowflake Posts: 3849 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted August 12, 2010 03:49 PM
AWWEE Raymond.. Thank you! All my Leo Luv's it! That's really nice of you.. ok in 87 88 I was 15/16.... Ok let me think.. Ok I think I did move.. I think (if I remember correctly) Mom moved in with a boyfriend.. I remembering being really upset because I didnt want to change schools.. I had a fit over it.. I finally had friends that I really liked and didnt want to leave... We did move but we stayed in the same area.. I did not change schools so I was happy.. I also go my first job when I was 15.. At 16 is when I was cutting school alot and I also got kicked out of school... I was more social during this time... IP: Logged |
Geocosmic* Valentine Knowflake Posts: 1188 From: New York, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 12, 2010 03:51 PM
StarrofVenusGirl,We are not just making guesses here, we're learning how to test the possible angles of her chart and we're gathering strong physical evidence for a 5 to 6 degree Aries ASC because her chart is definitely reacting to that area through strong hits from Solar Arcs and transits. Also, if this is the correct ASC we're discovering that the trine from Neptune in Sagittarius is contributing to the "feeling" of a Pisces ASC, which is a very valid consideration.
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Lioness Knowflake Posts: 3849 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted August 12, 2010 03:53 PM
Thanks everyone.. Yes I do get alot of compliments on my eyes.. My eyes are Hazel. the change colors from green to blue.. I have large pupils.. The eye doc said they are one of the biggest he's ever seen.. I have a light sensitivity, and I need to keep my house a little darker than most.. I have to wear sunglasses or I cant see.. a 60watt bulb for u is a like a 100 watt bulb for me... My ex husband called me a vampire... LOL Cops think I stoned when they look at my eyes... LOL Geo... I do feel like Im tired of my job and feel like it's time to change.. But I havent done anything about it... Its just how I feel... I have been getting annoyed at company policies lately and they stuff they are changing... But Im so routine Its very hard to change... I have worked for this same company since 94...
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Winged Leo Knowflake Posts: 393 From: Registered: Jan 2010
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posted August 12, 2010 03:55 PM
Geo,It took my whole day to find the most sensitive degrees and you didn't say anything!! What do you think of my work? lol. IP: Logged |
Geocosmic* Valentine Knowflake Posts: 1188 From: New York, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 12, 2010 03:57 PM
Hello Lioness,If you made the move in 1988 I think this gathers even more strong evidence of the 6 degree ASC which gives you the 3 degree MC/IC Axis. When SA Saturn arced to conjunction with your Venus, this suggests your heartbreak over having to move and possibly losing your friends, it also suggests your mother settling down with a new partner (Venus rules 7th House of partnership for you or your mother at that time), then SA Saturn moves onto the IC suggesting the ending of something having to do with home or the mother and a new beginning of something having to do with the home or the mother. This often suggests a geographic relocation and if it happened in 1988, it is a STRONG suggestion that your MC/IC is at 3 degrees Capricorn/Cancer. Once again, I'm working with a birth time of 9:53 PM. IP: Logged |
Geocosmic* Valentine Knowflake Posts: 1188 From: New York, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 12, 2010 03:59 PM
Sorry WingedLeo,Upon first glance, I didn't know what that means and how you find them and test them and what they suggest, but let me take a second look and I'll let you know. Give me a minute... IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 5819 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 12, 2010 03:59 PM
Lioness,What's your national ancestry? Meghann is half Scottish and half Irish. That can easily account for her appearance too. She also said that she was born with red hair. My eyes are very sensitive to light, and I don't like having a lot of light in my apartment. I squint a lot outside because of the sunlight outside. I used to wear sunglasses a lot or have photo-gray tint in my prescription glasses. Contact lenses made my eyes more sensitive to the point that my eyes would roll up when sunlight hit them. My eyes are deep brown though,and so I don't fit the dark color eyes-sensitivity stereotype. It's my ultrasensitivity to my overall environment.
Are you physically sensitive in other ways touch,sound,taste,hearing? I am. Your Neptune trine Ascendant could indicate an ultrasensitivity to environment overall.
------------------ Raymond Andrews, President,Executive Director of Developmental Neurodiversity Association Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement A Different Mind Is Not A Deficient Mind. http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=131944976821905&ref=ts IP: Logged |
StarrofVenusGirl Knowflake Posts: 1314 From: Down the Rabbit Hole Registered: Jun 2009
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posted August 12, 2010 04:00 PM
Actually, Raymond sounds like he's still on the fence...But anyway, I put my .02 in. Ultimately, without a time machine, chart rectification is guess work, plain and simple. All of the Piscean characteristics seem like a lot to attribute to a trine, no matter how close. That theory would have to bear out through testing from charts with confirmed birth times to pass muster with me. IP: Logged |
Geocosmic* Valentine Knowflake Posts: 1188 From: New York, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 12, 2010 04:05 PM
WingedLeo,I looked at the list of sensitive degrees but I don't understand what they signify or suggest except for the Aries 6 to 7 which is very close to the ASC that I've been testing which is 5 to 6 degrees Aries, although now Lioness is confirming lots of activity having to do with the 6 degree Aries ASC. IP: Logged |
Geocosmic* Valentine Knowflake Posts: 1188 From: New York, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 12, 2010 04:08 PM
StarrofVenusGirl,As far as I've seen so far, Raymond isn't testing the angles with her responses the way I am. We're no longer playing "Guess the ASC" I'm actually testing the angles of her chart in real time. The Pisces ASC feeling is strongly coming from the Neptune trine the 6 degree Aries ASC. People often guess that I'm a Pisces or Pisces rising but I have Neptune exactly quindecile my Gemini ASC to the minute, so it's extremely valid. We've been testing events in her chart since her 1st move in 1979, including other moves, births, marriages, etc. They are all matching up strongly. Also, Venus square to her ASC and conjunct the IC strongly contribute to her beauty and romantic movie star looks. (My opinion). IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 5819 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 12, 2010 04:20 PM
"Also, Venus square to her ASC and conjunct the IC strongly contribute to her beauty and romantic movie star looks. (My opinion)."I agree with that. She has a strong Venus influence overall Meghann has an unaspected Venus in Taurus in 2nd sextile Ascendant. I believe that a strongly placed Venus and Venus-Ascendant aspect can be factors in beauty and movie star looks. My mother was often remarked as being very pretty, and my mom has Venus parallel Ascendant. She was compared to her biological mother in looks. Her biological mother had a Taurus Ascendant. I actually thought my mom has a Taurus Ascendant before I found out she has a Cancer Ascendant. Her chart ruler Moon trine Venus too. She also has Sun parallel Venus in declinations. She was a licensed cosmetologist too. A hairdresser and a manicurist. My chart ruler Mercury conjunct/parallel Venus. I wonder if there is an astro-genetic thing going on.
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StarrofVenusGirl Knowflake Posts: 1314 From: Down the Rabbit Hole Registered: Jun 2009
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posted August 12, 2010 04:22 PM
StarrofVenusGirl, quote: As far as I've seen so far, Raymond isn't testing the angles with her responses the way I am. We're no longer playing "Guess the ASC" I'm actually testing the angles of her chart in real time. The Pisces ASC feeling is strongly coming from the Neptune trine the 6 degree Aries ASC.
Well there you have it! quote: People often guess that I'm a Pisces or Pisces rising
Hmmmm.... quote: but I have Neptune exactly quindecile my Gemini ASC to the minute, so it's extremely valid.
Well in that case, at least that's one other example of an extremely close aspect disguising an Ascendant...I think. I certainly wouldn't have mistaken you for such though. quote: Also, Venus square to her ASC and conjunct the IC strongly contribute to her beauty and romantic movie star looks.
Venus in aspect to the angles is a well-known indicator of beauty, and I agree that Lioness is very pretty. Great thread Lioness! I look forward to seeing which one you finally adopt ------------------ My Chart IP: Logged |
Winged Leo Knowflake Posts: 393 From: Registered: Jan 2010
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posted August 12, 2010 04:38 PM
Posting this again for you, Geo! February, 79: Moved to California SA Sun 22' 51 Leo SA Moon 21' 22 Leo SA Mercury 20' 39 Leo SA Venus 8' 33 Cancer A SA Mars 2'29 Virgo SA Jupiter 5' 08 Capricorn SA Saturn 24' 17 Gemini SA Uranus 21' 26 Libra B SA Neptune 8' 44 Sagittarius SA Pluto 6' 31 Libra C SA M. Node 1' 10 Aquarius Tr. Jupiter 1' 41 Leo Tr. Saturn 11' 55 Virgo G Tr. Uranus 20' 55 Scorpio Tr. Neptune 20' 41 Sagittarius D Tr. Pluto 19' 05 Libra E May 2, 1990: Graduated High School SA Sun 3' 39 Virgo SA Moon 2'10 Virgo SA Mercury 1' 27 Virgo SA Venus 19' 21 Cancer E SA Mars 13' 17 Virgo SA Jupiter 15' 57 Capricorn SA Saturn 5' 05 Cancer SA Uranus 2' 14 Scorpio SA Neptune 19' 32 Sagittarius SA Pluto 17' 19 Libra F SA M. Node 11' 58 Aquarius Tr. Jupiter 7' 06 Cancer C Tr. Saturn 25' 19 Capricorn Tr. Uranus 9' 27 Capricorn A Tr. Neptune 14'30 Capricorn Tr. Pluto 16' 32 Scorpio May 12, 1992: Gave birth to 1st child SA Sun 5' 36 Virgo SA Moon 4' 07 Virgo SA Mercury 3'24 Virgo SA Venus 21' 19 Cancer B SA Mars 15'14 Virgo SA Jupiter 17' 54 Capricorn F SA Saturn 7' 03 Cancer C SA Uranus 4' 12 Scorpio SA Neptune 21' 30 Sagittarius SA Pluto 19' 16 Libra E SA M. Node 13' 56 Aquarius Tr. Jupiter 4' 49 Virgo Tr. Saturn 18' 15 Aquarius Tr. Uranus 17' 51 Capricorn F Tr. Neptune 18' 50 Capricorn E Tr. Pluto 21' 34 Scorpio April 14, 1994: Started job SA Sun 7' 28 Virgo SA Moon 5' 59 Virgo SA Mercury 5' 16 Virgo SA Venus 23' 10 Cancer SA Mars 17' 06 Virgo SA Jupiter 19' 46 Capricorn E SA Saturn 8' 54 Cancer A SA Uranus 6' 03 Scorpio SA Neptune 23' 21 Sagittarius SA Pluto 21' 08 Libra B SA M. Node 15' 47 Aquarius Tr. Jupiter 11' 48 Scorpio Tr. Saturn 8' 39 Pisces Tr. Uranus 26' 13 Capricorn Tr. Neptune 23' 18 Capricorn Tr. Pluto 27' 33 Scorpio January 3, 2000: Started new job SA Sun 13' 00 Virgo SA Moon 11' 31 Virgo G SA Mercury 10' 48 Virgo SA Venus 28' 43 Cancer SA Mars 22' 38 Virgo SA Jupiter 25' 18 Capricorn SA Saturn 14' 27 Cancer SA Uranus 11' 36 Scorpio SA Neptune 28' 54 Sagittarius SA Pluto 26' 40 Libra SA M. Node 21' 20 Aquarius Tr. Jupiter 25' 19 Aries Tr. Saturn 10' 22 Taurus Tr. Uranus 14' 53 Aquarius Tr. Neptune 3' 14 Aquarius Tr. Pluto 11' 30 Sagittarius G July 22, 2000: Got Married SA Sun 13' 33 Virgo SA Moon 12' 04 Virgo SA Mercury 11' 20 Virgo G SA Venus 29' 15 Cancer SA Mars 23' 10 Virgo SA Jupiter 25' 50 Capricorn SA Saturn 14' 59 Cancer SA Uranus 12' 08 Scorpio SA Neptune 29' 26 Sagittarius SA Pluto 27' 22 Libra SA M. Node 21' 52 Aquarius Tr. Jupiter 4' 13 Gemini Tr. Saturn 28' 38 Taurus Tr. Uranus 19' 37 Aquarius Tr. Neptune 5' 20 Aquarius Tr. Pluto 16' 23 Sagittarius December 28, 2000: Offered promotion SA Sun 13' 58 Virgo SA Moon 12' 29 Virgo SA Mercury 11' 46 Virgo SA Venus 29' 40 Cancer SA Mars 23' 36 Virgo SA Jupiter 26' 16 Capricorn SA Saturn 15' 24 Cancer SA Uranus 12' 33 Scorpio SA Neptune 29' 51 Sagittarius SA Pluto 27' 38 Libra SA M. Node 22' 17 Aquarius Tr. Jupiter 2' 32 Gemini Tr. Saturn 24' 46 Taurus Tr. Uranus 18' 27 Aquarius Tr. Neptune 5' 11 Aquarius Tr. Pluto 13' 27 Sagittarius February 16, 2008: Promoted/started new job SA Sun 17' 01 Virgo SA Moon 15' 32 Virgo SA Mercury 14' 48 Virgo SA Venus 2' 43 Leo SA Mars 26' 39 Virgo SA Jupiter 29' 18 Capricorn SA Saturn 18' 27 Cancer F SA Uranus 15' 36 Scorpio SA Neptune 2' 54 Capricorn SA Pluto 0' 40 Scorpio SA M. Node 25' 20 Aquarius Tr. Jupiter 16' 08 Virgo Tr. Saturn 6' 40 Cancer C Tr. Uranus 21' 26 Pisces D Tr. Neptune 13' 22 Aquarius Tr. Pluto 21' 51 Sagittarius D May 30, 2008: Husband was taken away - temporarily SA Sun 21' 11 Virgo SA Moon 19' 42 Virgo D SA Mercury 18' 59 Virgo SA Venus 6' 53 Leo SA Mars 0' 49 Libra SA Jupiter 3' 29 Aquarius SA Saturn 22' 37 Cancer SA Uranus 19' 46 Scorpio SA Neptune 7' 04 Capricorn C SA PlutO 4' 51 Scorpio SA M. Node 29' 30 Aquarius Tr. Jupiter 21' 43 Capricorn B Tr. Saturn 2' 18 Virgo Tr. Uranus 22' 20 Pisces Tr. Neptune 24' 15 Aquarius Tr. Pluto 0' 22 Capricorn February 3, 2009: Husband was taken away - permanently SA Sun 21' 51 Virgo SA Moon 20' 22 Virgo D SA Mercury 19' 38 Virgo D SA Venus 7' 33 Leo SA Mars 1' 29 Libra SA Jupiter 4' 08 Aquarius SA Saturn 23' 17 Cancer SA Uranus 20' 26 Scorpio SA Neptune 7' 44 Capricorn C SA Pluto 5' 30 Scorpio SA M. Node 0' 10 Pisces Tr. Jupiter 6' 40 Aquarius Tr. Saturn 20' 47 Virgo D Tr. Uranus 20' 32 Virgo D Tr. Neptune 23' 34 Aquarius Tr. Pluto 2' 21 Capricorn November 14-15, 2009 SA Sun 22' 36 Virgo SA Moon 21' 07 Virgo SA Mercury 20' 24 Virgo D SA Venus 8' 18 Leo SA Mars 2' 14 Libra SA Jupiter 4' 54 Aquarius SA Saturn 24' 03 Cancer SA Uranus 21' 11 Scorpio SA Neptune 8' 30 Capricorn SA Pluto 6' 16 Scorpio SA M. Node 0' 55 Pisces Tr. Jupiter 18' 48 Aquarius Tr. Saturn 1' 33 Libra Tr. Uranus 22' 50 Pisces Tr. Neptune 23' 52 Aquarius Tr. Pluto 1' 36 Capricorn * Most sensitive degrees A: 8-9 Aries (3 hits) B: 21-22 Aries (4 hits) C: 6-7 Aries (5 hits) D: 20-21 Pisces (9 hits) E: 19-20 Aries (5 hits) F: 17-18 Aries (4 hits) G: 11-12 Pisces (4 hits) IP: Logged |
Geocosmic* Valentine Knowflake Posts: 1188 From: New York, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 12, 2010 04:51 PM
I'm still studying it, but what do the letters stand for after each Solar listing, example: For her 1979 move, a strong SA Venus really wouldn't have anything to do with it, but I noticed you put it in bold and there's a letter A after it (I think).OOPS!! I just saw your key at the bottom. Why don't I look at it? Good idea.  IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 5819 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 12, 2010 04:53 PM
What about her natal midpoint pictures involving the MidheavenI noticed with the birthtime that you are using - 9:53 pm interpretations from Noel Tyl's SYNTHESIS AND COUNSELING IN ASTROLOGY The Professional Manual Saturn oppose Neptune/MC - '02 the feeling of being wiped out;needing to correct past mistakes with honest,open,clear statements and plans. MC oppose Pluto/Asc - '14 power and authority and success; ego-ascendancy Venus oppose Jupiter/MC - 1'06 success;reward;artistic appreciation and achievement;happiness;love relationship;engagement;marriage;birth Node square Sun/MC - '56 forming relationships Uranus square Node/MC - '25 the sudden experience;possible rashness;being seen as "zany";solving problems innovatively with others Sun square Pluto/MC - '16 the potential for major life-change is illuminated; wanting to spread one's wings and fly; getting on with excitement Pluto square Jupiter/MC - '56 great gains;potential for extraordinary achievement and recognition;publicity Venus sesquiquadrate Pluto/MC - '25 attractiveness;emotional charisma;appearing sexy ------------------ Raymond Andrews, President,Executive Director of Developmental Neurodiversity Association Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement A Different Mind Is Not A Deficient Mind. http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=131944976821905&ref=ts IP: Logged |
Geocosmic* Valentine Knowflake Posts: 1188 From: New York, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 12, 2010 05:01 PM
Excellent idea, Glaucus!I'm just afraid of my ability to stick with this and get so intimately involved. At this point it's where I would follow Noel Tyl's advice to have a personal conversation with the person. It's SUPER difficult to get this to 99.9999999....% correct without doing that with her. I've definitely been eyeing her Midpoint picture of Venus=Jupiter/MC. That's a lovely midpoint picture. HOLY CR@P!!!! We missed the biggest Kahuna of all!!!! Ye olde fashioned Sun/Moon Midpoint, especially since she's got the husband issues. Oh wait - she has a Sun-Moon conjunction, very tight, but it would help for us to look at that during her marriage and with the issues she stated with her husband being put away. But we also need to know the nature of her relationship with him, are they in love, still in love? Do they want to salvage the relationship? Is/was it a happy relationship? Will there be a divorce? What about other relationships and when they started? What are they like? Oooooh, the tangled web of life... IP: Logged |
Lioness Knowflake Posts: 3849 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted August 12, 2010 05:21 PM
OO Boy.. Wait hold on.... Geo I moved when I was 14(maybe late 15)... I know that for sure now.. (when my mom moved in with a guy) When I got my first job at the age of 15 I was already living there for a while.. I know I got the job either late June or early July.. I remember it being around a month before my 16th Bday. Which was 8/8/88.... At this first job is where I met my best friend (still to this day) She helped me to become more social.. She is a very important person in my life. I became very attached to her... I Still am.. She is like the sister I never had.. Raymond... OMg Neptune is making you see things.. Im so dont look like a movie star..
My Dad is Norwegian .. Know one knows on my moms side.. OOO I did find my dad when I was 25.. I spoke with him... IDK what month though... I found out I have 3 sisters.. I spoke with each of them also.. It was pure luck finding him also.. It was the very first number I called... I spent about 2 hours looking.. I did use my instincts to guide me to which was the correct number.... I looked on the white pages on the internet.. All I had was his name... So I looked up his name in order of State... When I got to Texas, and I saw his number I just knew that was the number I had to call.. So I did and it was the correct number.. We never met personally though.. Raymond.. me and u have alot in common, my mom was also a cosmetologist. But gave it up in the move to Ca because the license doesnt go from state to state..
I am sensitive to loud noises. Very annoying.. Im not sure about touch and taste.. IP: Logged |
Lioness Knowflake Posts: 3849 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted August 12, 2010 05:27 PM
Ok here's a baby picture.. You cant get more reality looking than this... Ok I admit I was an ugly baby... LOL IP: Logged |