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Dy-na-mi-tee
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posted August 20, 2010 07:22 PM
  
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Of course, we're all free to choose which moral failings go on our "unpardonable sins" list. Makes me think compatibility is mostly about finding someone whose flaws we can tolerate.
That is amazingly true and I will take that advice and remember it for a very long time.
So thanks! IP: Logged |
Dy-na-mi-tee
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posted August 20, 2010 07:34 PM
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Dear Dyn-a
I am sorry I thought you were threatening me. I know you have high integrity and would never hurt me like that.
I am sorry about this whole thing.
It is some weird kind of space.
I don't get it but we have to respect whatever it is that is making us fight i.e not be able to communicate.
Perhaps, it will lift , in time, like a fog.
I hope so but for now, for us and for everyone on LL, I think we both agree to give each other a wide berthAmi
Ami - I know exactly what you mean. Before this event we could communicate perfectly well.
And I am also upset that now we cannot - because the way we look back on this event - is different and we disagree. I am very happy you know that I did not threaten you.
I will never post something personal here about your life or your romantic life that you have only told me. Also - in a sense I almost feel like deleting the past two posts because I did not want to go on with this. But I wanted to reply to Jane's words to clarify - and maybe also clarify - for you - what my problem was. Because maybe I never stated it explicitly enough. Jane & Ami - Can you just let me know when you both read this and I will delete. I don't want it to remain posted here. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted August 20, 2010 07:34 PM
There must be something in the air - Anne Ortelee marked certain days for tempers or situations to blow up (as mine did, yesterday). Smart Me had thought to avoid certain people until I thought I could handle things better. Stupid Me won, after leaving behind a cozy couch with snoozing pets, to lose my temper over something that has been argued to death. (I'm not saying that about anyone else, just me .) Oh, well, it would have happened anyway - I just might have kept my cool, had it happened at another time.*edit. Dy-na. Your first little paragraph in the post above this one, covers my situation as well, although not completely - and that relationship, such as it was, is most likely now dead and ready for burial. IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted August 20, 2010 08:05 PM
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Dy-na-mi-tee
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posted August 20, 2010 08:09 PM
Ok Ami - and I will erase all of mine then - and the last one - after Jane gets my reply!Teasel - lol There is definitely something in the air with the grand cross that has lasted a very long time. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted August 20, 2010 08:27 PM
I love how seeing something written out, can really help the other person to see from the other's point of view.  I remember the author of, Write It Down, Make It Happen writing in another book (Put Your Heart On Paper) about the journals she shares with each of her children. It sometimes helps them to get through the bad times and apologize - to say things they might not be able to say out loud. IP: Logged |
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posted August 21, 2010 12:13 AM
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Only "slightly"? Meh, you can keep it.I'm turned on by a good memory too.
RAWR! I like 'em feisty. Well, if that's an invitation, just you wait and see what I remember about you, my darling.  And even if that's not an invitation, the chase has begun...! IP: Logged |
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posted August 21, 2010 01:19 AM
I have my moon and neptune in 8th and I have to have an Emotional bond to have sex. Does this mean anything?? Oh nad my Fantasies/Datdreams are all about sex and love...IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted August 21, 2010 05:47 AM
You Rock, Meta 
Ami
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To will to be the self which one truly is,is indeed,the opposite of despair. IP: Logged |
jane
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posted August 21, 2010 02:24 PM
Dyna -
Sorry, no time atm to say more, just letting you know I read your replies.IP: Logged |
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posted August 21, 2010 03:29 PM
My Sun, Moon, and Neptune are all in the eighth house. Plus my Venus is in Scorpio so the whole merging with another when you have sex or have is so true for me. But I have always wondered what about the partner that 8th house Scorpio people are with. Do they feel the energy? Do they since this lover is different from others? Or is it just one sided for the eighth house Scorpio person. I once read a person loved by a Venus in Scorpio will never be loved like that again. I'm curious as to what all of your opinions might be.IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted August 21, 2010 03:35 PM
My general feeling is that if you feel something , the other person does , too.
IOW, if you are having the connection, it is because you both do.
Otherwise, it would not feel special to YOU.
That is my experience which has played out in life.
I am not referring to sexual cuz I have never had an 8th house type of sexual experience 
I am talking about general feelings of connection between people. Ami
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jane
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posted August 23, 2010 03:56 PM
Dyna -The covert thing... I think you and my husband are equally outraged by that.   I know that violated your principles so sincerely infuriated you. Being double fire myself, I can relate to wanting everything on the table. Let's clearly and directly state our issues. But as someone with significant Sco and Cap influences, I also have a strong desire to keep personal relationships private. I want to directly address issues behind closed doors. Where you saw Ami's comment as offensively covert, I saw it as coded so as to preserve privacy. By speaking covertly, she was able to simultaneously (1.) share with the board something she was experiencing and (2.) signal to you (& only you) how you'd made her feel. This put the ball in your court and allowed you to choose whether to contact her to discuss the issue. If I had been in your shoes, the covert element wouldn't even have phased me. (I would've *liked* that she'd retained our privacy!) Instead, my concern would be that she was lassoing me back into talking privately. Will she always do that when I try to get away? That's what would trouble me. You know, being a Sag and all , that's where my mind would go, perhaps unfairly. Anyway, what I'm saying is something we all know.  We're different. We're going to offend each other for different reasons and solve problems in different ways. I think ultimately what it comes down to is what you said - it's not our place to teach someone morality. In relationships we learn about who we are and who the other person is. And hopefully we go through the process with an open mind and open heart so we're continuously uncovering our best selves. Which is what 8th house bonds are all about! I knew this would eventually be on topic.  IP: Logged |
jane
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posted August 23, 2010 04:01 PM
meta - quote:
RAWR! I like 'em feisty.
What can I say? You're feistable. quote:
Well, if that's an invitation, just you wait and see what I remember about you, my darling
Please show mercy! I'm powerless against a good memory.  IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted August 23, 2010 04:59 PM
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Dy-na-mi-tee
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posted August 23, 2010 06:11 PM
Jane - Ami has since made another covert comment, basically saying that I breastfed her - because my Chiron is conjunct her Venus (on a thread which was deleted) and putting this on par with a situation where she believes she breastfed her own mother when she was Chiron. I do not have children and I do not remember breastfeeding anyone. This comment crossed my boundaries again (whether intentionally or unintentionally). I find it psychologically disruptive. I have asked her to please stop engaging in any way as I do feel this is the only manner to prevent such posts being directed towards me. I feel psychologically/emotionally hassled by it and if it continues, I will keep a record and eventually pursue legal action. I believe and hope it will not continue. This was the last post I intended to make re: all of the Ami situation.. and the last post I will make towards Ami or about her. I do want it posted. Since the thread was deleted - there is now a record of it here. (If this is deleted also, I will have to repost in LLC2). And if it gets to the point where my own posts are deleted - or my LLC2 thread - then I will have to reinstate my FB and post it there, so that it is very clear publicly what I intend to do. Because I find this unacceptable and it is affecting my time on LL. IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted August 23, 2010 06:20 PM
I DO NOT KNOW WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU, DYN-A
I wrote to Lala and asked her to delete every word you write about me.
It is up to her.
Ami
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Dy-na-mi-tee
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posted August 23, 2010 06:25 PM
I am entitled to post that on LL. You are also entitled to post whatever you like. I said all I had to say to you above.
I hope and trust you understand that this is a serious matter for me. IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted August 23, 2010 06:30 PM
Well, THIS IS NOT A FREE COUNTRY.PEOPLE MODERATE IT!!!!I TRUST LALA AND RANDALL TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT. It is in their hands.I have asked them to erase everything you write about me.
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Dy-na-mi-tee
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posted August 23, 2010 06:35 PM
Yes - Said all I had to say ^. IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted August 23, 2010 06:37 PM
I am not responding.
I wrote to Lala .
I trust her to do what is right.IP: Logged |
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posted August 23, 2010 06:51 PM
" THIS IS NOT A FREE COUNTRY.PEOPLE MODERATE IT!!!!I TRUST LALA AND RANDALL TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT. It is in their hands.I have asked them to erase everything you write about me" I only say Jesus. IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted August 23, 2010 07:02 PM
My request to you, Dyn-a ,is to erase everything here. That way Lala does not have to get involved.
Write about me on FB or wherever you want.
I would like to not have to involve the Moderators,if possible.
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posted August 23, 2010 07:06 PM
I have made my intentions extremely clear to you.
It is beyond me why you are continuing to post these things towards me.There is no way I will delete this.
I quite literally feel abused by such comments and I have the right to bring that up to public attention. IP: Logged |
Ami Ann
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posted August 23, 2010 07:08 PM
Fine, Then the Moderators will deal with it!
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