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posted August 15, 2010 11:30 AM         

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posted August 15, 2010 11:32 AM         

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Why?
I have 4 planets in the 8th and this thread has made me feel better about certain things. It's good that you started it.

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posted August 15, 2010 11:34 AM         

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OK I'll leave it Yin

x o x Ami

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posted August 15, 2010 11:38 AM         

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I have Aries Sun/Moon/Mercury/Venus in the 8th house, and I'm grateful to be alive and have the life that I have.
I have Taurus NN, so I guess that my life's lesson is to learn how to appreciate the joys and gifts of life and what I have in my life.

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posted August 15, 2010 11:47 AM         

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Ami, your thread didn't have to be moved. It was moved because Abs felt pressured to pay some respect to Lady Fair Judgment after I called her on it. For the record, I don't think your thread belongs in Astrology but in Universal Codes or anywhere a moderator doesn't have a personal vendetta against you. Which is why it remained in LLC for as long as it did. It was only moved now as to stifle further questioning about bias.

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It remained there as long as it did, because I was busy this week dealing with flooding, and also getting ready for a perfume show, and then when someone decided to complain about a post needing to be put into Soul Unions, and then decided to post something that belonged in Universal Codes, right AFTER he was complaining about things not being posted in the proper forums, I had to take time out of my busy morning to move posts. When I had planned on moving posts tomorrow AFTER my perfume show.

Finite.

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posted August 15, 2010 11:48 AM         

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People are responding so I told Lala to leave it lol.
No worries, Sweetie.

Ami

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posted August 15, 2010 01:02 PM         

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Abs, why do you feel solely responsible for LLC? Of course you were busy with your life. Why not let the moderators present at LLC at the time take care of it? I just don't get it.

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posted August 15, 2010 01:05 PM         

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Why even ask this inane question. What will the answer achieve?

I'm sorry but I think it's selfish to ask such a question. Do you have any idea how special you are to have been born, get old and be healthy and have a roof over your head?
So many souls are waiting to be born. So many die before birth and so many mothers mourn their stillbirths.

Never wish, expect, need, want anything to be different and then you won't be disappointed in the present.
Most people alive today were never born anyway cos they all live as if they were dead.
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It has nothing to do with an 8th house stellium. Nothing at all so don't blame such a beautiful transformational house just cos you maybe can't hack the x-ray hold it has on you. Go buy a black obsidian crystal ball ad gaze into it every day until it has entirely shown you yourself.

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posted August 15, 2010 05:46 PM         

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Lara, I am sorry for whatever is eating you up inside that you feel the need to continually attack me.
Whatever I represent to you is not me, but something inside you.
I hope you find peace.
I mean that.
As I said many threads back , I do not wish to engage with you which means I am not soliciting your opinions/advice.
I have asked you ,nicely, to respect my wish not to engage with you
This is the fourth time.

Ami

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posted August 15, 2010 06:49 PM         

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I wished that, a couple of times. Even considered suicide, but I never went for it. The point is, it's a done deal. You were born. You can't reverse that. So you have to make the best of it, find your comfort and your joys when and where you can and hope they can motivate you to keep going. I've been around long enough to see some of the hardest times in life. I know how it is to struggle to find the motivation even to wake up in the morning. But as Wink put it, you can't run away from your responsibilities, you will have to face them sooner or later. I guess I praise Saturn for teaching me this.
I find my strength to carry on in my hospital work. I spend a lot of time there (though I am payd for like a third of it), perhaps because it gives me a sense of purpose. When I am there and I give 150% to the job, I KNOW I don't wish to never had been born. Because I feel useful, I see that me being there makes a difference, because I have my own contribution, perhaps not significant at all times but still, I am a part of somthing that matters. That's why I am still walking on this plane.

Virgo on the 8th house cusp. Nothing in it.

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posted August 15, 2010 07:08 PM         

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Yeah, when I've been at rock bottom more than a few times I've contemplated how much easier it would've been if I had never existed. I've contemplated going to sleep and never waking up too, but maybe that doesn't pertain to this thread. I've realized that in the end,I agree with the person above me when I say that its not reversable so its just better to try and fix what you can. Its just a waste of time to focus on things that cannot be helped.

I have a job and field that gives me a purpose, and hobbies give me enjoyment and that's good enough.

-Virgo Moon conjunct Lilith in the 8th
-Leo on the 8th house Cusp.

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posted August 15, 2010 09:23 PM         

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Nothing eats me up Ami. I live a grateful, peaceful and happy life and live it for today.

We should ALL live with gratitude for we are truly blessed to be alive.

I know you have asked me not to comment on your posts yet this is a public forum Ami and you don't own your threads nor post.
So please just get over it because it is a little juvenile to not be able to handle online points of view in a rational manner as I'm sure you would agree.

Blessings.

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posted August 15, 2010 09:50 PM         

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I KNOW I don't wish to never had been born. Because I feel useful, I see that me being there makes a difference, because I have my own contribution

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Its just a waste of time to focus on things that cannot be helped.

I have a job and field that gives me a purpose, and hobbies give me enjoyment and that's good enough.

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I'm grateful to be alive and have the life that I have.
I have Taurus NN, so I guess that my life's lesson is to learn how to appreciate the joys and gifts of life and what I have in my life.

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We should ALL live with gratitude for we are truly blessed to be alive.

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Izo, Benedict, Comica (I also have Taurus NN conj Venus) and Lara.
All of those quotes resonate with me.

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posted August 15, 2010 09:52 PM         

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Ami - I like this thread and a few others you made - because I like seeing what people have to say in general and the discussions that ensue.

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posted August 15, 2010 10:08 PM         

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Thank you ,Dyn-a
I think my way to heal ,being a Scorp/Gem is through self expression of hard issues(8th house)
I think it is just me--for better or worse.
Thank you for appreciating me even though you and I are different.
We can still love each other.
Differences are what gives life spice.
One day, I hope to have these issues behind me.
I think I will.
I am quite certain of that.

x o x Ami

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posted August 15, 2010 11:02 PM         

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Ami,

She is just jealous of you and has some serious insecurity issues and it's manifesting as jabs at you. She can't stand seeing your posts get a lot of attention and that people are genuinely and thoughtfully answering your questions and they really like you, this is what eats her up. I think you were doing fine ignoring her. Let her drown in her whole miserable puddle of hate.

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posted August 16, 2010 01:17 AM         

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Oh, (((Winged Leo)))
I should have ignored. You are right. I realized that AFTERWARD.
Total Ignore--now !

x o x Ami

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posted August 16, 2010 05:11 AM         

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dynamitee, it's nice to know that I can still make sense with being so insecure, ugly, hated and jealous of everyone LOL

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I swear there are some seriously ****** up, sad and bitter people in this world.
Ami and winged spayed leo,
Why are you guys so fuking sad and pathetic? Do you seriously think I'm:
1. Attacking you
2. Writing out of my ass

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posted August 16, 2010 05:31 AM         

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I can see what Lara means, when it comes to gratitude, and when it comes to those who would probably have loved to have lived longer - I know of one young man who would have loved to have lived past the age of 28.

I wouldn't call Ami's thread inane, though - different things affect people in different ways. You can be going along, doing your best, only to have something happen that makes you crack - at least temporarily. Ami isn't the only one to have thought this way, but everyone else - like me - seems to have had a reason to not think or feel that way for long.

I've only had about two hours sleep, so I'm sorry if I'm not making much sense.

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posted August 16, 2010 09:20 AM         

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posted August 16, 2010 09:26 AM         

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Thank you,(((Peri)))
I ask these questions cuz I feel alone,often.
The outside me can look good, talk well ,be sociable but the inside me thinks about things like this and wonders if I am alone.
Thank you for making me realize I am not.
I thank everyone else who responded to my thread ,too.
I tried to get it killed cuz I was ashamed and embarrassed that it ended up on the more public forum but it did not want to die lol.
Perhaps, other people ,such as you and others, struggled with the same things and wanted to know you were not alone ,also.

x o x Ami

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posted August 16, 2010 09:29 AM         

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You are definitely not alone (((Ami))).

ETA: and I admire LEXX for being so strong and still appreciating life after everything she's been through, I have a lot to learn from her

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posted August 16, 2010 09:36 AM         

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Thank you Peri

There are so many people living lives of quiet desperation BECAUSE they cannot say these things.
It is worth it--to say them,Sister.

x o x Ami

PS I don't want to be a good looking corpse

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posted August 16, 2010 09:51 AM         

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