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Ami Ann
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posted August 19, 2010 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
You have quite a few Out of Bound planets---Venus,Neptune, Pluto and Jupiter.

Out of bound planets allow you to be unique in your expression of these.

Jupiter is 29 degrees. I will have to check that out. That weakens it, I think,but I am not sure exactly how that would function here.

You have a 0 degree Scorpio Mercury which is the strongest energy of the sign. I would think that would strengthen your mental abilities . Scorpio has a keen, detective type of mind, anyway.
The Lexigrams fit well with this.

You are a Cap ASC and you have Cancer on the Descendent.
You are an organized ,practical person. You are attracted to a more warm, fuzzy type of guy.
Is your husband like that?Is he a sweet, nurturing type of man.
I love Cancer in a man(not sun or moon, though lol)

You have Chiron in the first. I have never seen that.
I wonder if others have.
This could be your physical issues as a child.

Your NN is in your first house. I have not seen that very much either.

I am not sure what that would mean unless you need to make peace with your physical, external self.
This could make sense from all you said cuz you had very hard physical issues to reconcile.
Your SN would be in Cancer so you are comfortable with Cancer energy. This makes sense from your personality as I perceive it on LL. However, usually we want to draw our DSC energy to us in another person so I am not sure about this
You are not as comfortable with Cap energy cuz your NN is there.
The NN is what we need to perfect.


Ami

As always, please correct anything I have wrong.

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posted August 19, 2010 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
I really appreciate what you are doing for me!
I shall return asap to comment and query.

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posted August 19, 2010 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
I love you, LEXX.


x o x Ami

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posted August 19, 2010 10:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you Ami
I am still drafting out replies, to be clear.

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Dy-na-mi-tee
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posted August 19, 2010 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dy-na-mi-tee     Edit/Delete Message
LEXX I may have caught a glimpse of your chart before, but I never noticed we have an exactly conjunct AC-DC axis.. Mine is reversed. AC - Cancer and DC Cap!

I have attracted a man who fits the description of my Cap DC (older) and also fits my Saturn in Sagittarius 6th house.. based on the way I met him.
He is the first person I have felt truly in love with.

Does your partner have Cancerian or Aquarian (your Moon - DC ruler) traits - or both?

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posted August 20, 2010 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
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Does your partner have Cancerian or Aquarian (your Moon - DC ruler) traits - or both?
Sorry, I am not very learned in Astrology.
Here is his chart:

And mine:

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posted August 20, 2010 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Ami Ann Thank you for doing this for me!
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Man, LEXX--without the degrees, I am seeing something.
Does your moon conjunct Mars square your Sun conjunct Saturn?
If so, how close is the orb?
Does Uranus oppose the Moon/mars conjunction?
Not sure, sorry, me being such a total noob.

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I don't think I have ever seen such a challenging chart but you know I am new lol
Others have said much the same.

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You have Venus in the 11th so you love being part of a group--which you are on LL--for sure.
Yet in offline life I tend to be a bit of a recluse, even in my youth.

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You have mars conjunct moon. It looks exact. Your mother was a martial person i.e. warrier . You don't want that in a mother, for sure.
I have it at 8 degrees and that was bad enough, as you know.
If you have it exact--that shows your mother, I think.
A Christian warrior she believes but goes about it with violence, bigotry and so forth far too often.

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She was hostile to you which is a great understatement ,I know.
Yet in betwixt like a Jekyl and Hyde she could be nice...but I never could predict when to hide from her.

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You have sun conjunct Saturn. It looks exact. Man --that is hard.
Your ego had cold water thrown on ie.

IF the moon/mars conjunction square the sun/saturn conjunction---to me-- that would show the hardship.

Everything was stymied. Your Sun(ego) was beset by Saturn(restriction, dampering, holding back)

This thwarts your moon(emotions) which were already under attack by your mother(Mars)

You have 4 planets at odds with each other --pulling you, pushing you until you would not know which way was up.

Also, you have Neptune in your stellium which make all the abuse unclear. You would wonder "What is happening? Is it real?"


Oh for sure! It took me over 4 decades to fully or mostly recover.
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I hate that side of Neptune. I have a lot of Neotune connections and I have a hard time(very) seeing what is actually happening.
Mainly, I cannot see if someone is abusive to me.
My mother would abuse me and then tell me I was too sensitive i.e I did not SEE it.
I am gonna start a thread on this when I get the courage lol
Yes, and my first ex did the same, and got away with turning me into a meek doormat because I was already so beaten down.

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Neptune is wonderful in many ways. I love the psychic /creative part but the illusion part I can leave lol
I am psychic and creative.

to be continued...

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posted August 20, 2010 01:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
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Dear LEXX
I want you to know that I am gearing up my heart and mind to put them in to your chart.
I admire you so much for all you have endured. In spite of all that, you are a loving, sensitive woman ready to give a heart and a hand to others.

Ami

I really do appreciate your kindness and time and energy you are devoting to reading my chart.!
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Dear Lexx
I was right about the exact conjunctions between Mars/Moon and Saturn/Sun.
They, also, square each other.
YIKES.
These are enough bad aspects for 10 people

It seems like your mother(moon) engulfed you in a warlike, aggressive way(Mars) , as you said.

Your father or father figure hurt you ,too.
Your Sun conjunct Saturn is a throwing of cold water on your individuality(ego ,core self)

Then, to make matters worse --they square each other so they energies are further pummeled and thwarted from going free and finding who they are.

Man, right there, it seems very hard.
That is only one part.


You are quite accurate so far!

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Fire seems to be your weakest element and probably the one you would have needed most.
I read, and have seen, that people with lots of fire survive better in abusive homes than people with other elements.

I think I understand what you mean.
By the way, my mother is a first decan October Scorpio, and my father a first decan August Virgo.
I do not know their exact birth hour/minutes.
to be continued...

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posted August 20, 2010 01:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
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PS I am really excited to be working on your chart and I am finding some good things which I think will be helpful!
How may I repay you?
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Hi LEXX Sweetie
I made some notes. I am gonna write them all down and you tell me what you think
OK

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You are an extrovert ,to a large extent. This is from many planets on the top of the chart.
This is a saving grace when you are an abused child cuz you can reach out.
I guess I am even though I usually chose to be a loner....I have at the same time never really had a fear of reaching out to others. I will type up a monologue about that which you may find interesting. My reaching out did lead to many fascinating connections to a diversity of adults ages 50ish to 102 when I was a child and teenager.
My parents never knew I was sneaking off to visit these "strangers".
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You have a Scorpio Stellium(more than 3 planets in one sign) in the 10th house.
I think the 10th house is your mother.
(It can be either but since your mother was your most influential ,it prolly represents her.
That makes sense. And stepmother later was almost as bad.
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You have a full 10th house. Career/your place in society/influence of the mother are represented by the 10th house.
Your Sun is here which further puts emphasis on the 10th house as an important focal point for your life.
Not entirely sure what all that means for sure, sorry.
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You have Venus in the 11th. You are a social person and enjoy groups,as is obvious with LL.
I am when online, and in my offline life can choose to be but do not need to be very much.I did enjoy taking, then later teaching the Dale Carnegie course one year right before becoming disabled.
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Your Venus is Out of Bounds which allows it to be more of it's own person.
It can be more independent in it's behavior , more of you directing it in the way YOU see fit.
Yes, that does ring true.
To be continued...

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Ami Ann
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posted August 20, 2010 07:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
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How may I repay you?

Dear LEXX
You made me cry with that! It is my HONOR to offer you anything.


x o Ami

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posted August 20, 2010 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Blessings and love to you Ami Ann.
I shall reply more in a wee bit.

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posted August 20, 2010 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Dear Lexx
Can you put up a synastry of you and your husband?
Thanks ,Sweetie


Ami

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posted August 20, 2010 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
I will try...not sure how to do it...
give me time please...

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posted August 20, 2010 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Hey!
Easier than I thought!

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posted August 20, 2010 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Hello again Ami!
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Pluto in the 8th house makes sense.The 8th house is Scorpio's house. Scorpio is the detective. It has to(or is forced to)get to the bottom of things.
Oh for certain! I am and have always been very driven to find answers, and will pursue things until I do!
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The 8th house is the house of taboo things :things people don't like to talk about.
With planets here, you are forced to face these things and ,hopefully, to reconcile them.
A person with planets in this house may have been the one to tell about the family's hidden things i.e to tell the truth.
I do not believe in taboo topics. Things never faced or talked over will never be reconciled or even understood.
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This fits with what you have said.

Pluto seems like it would be the hardest planet to have on the 8th house but one that would force the issue.

I think you were forced to face the truth's of your life and you did.
Talking about them is important, as you do.
When you get them out, they do not have the power to torment you.
"We are only as sick as the secrets we keep"
That might be a saying for how to deal with 8th house things.


I totally totally totally agree!
Wow! All this you have told me is actually to be found withing my chart?
AMAZING!
Thank you! :

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You have Jupiter in the 7th. This seems like it may be a Saving grace cuz you are with someone you love.
I am so happy you have that, LEXX.
Well it took me to just shy of my 43rd. birthday to find him, but yes, I love him more than anyone or thing!

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You have a Jupiter/Uranus conjunction. This can make you someone who likes to be in charge and does not like restrictions.
You can plan things well, carry them out and people appreciate what you do ,in this area.
Yes, that definitely fits!
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This conjunction can give you sudden and unexpected gains.
Still awaiting those, at least in the financial arena.
continued next post...

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posted August 20, 2010 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
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You have quite a few Out of Bound planets---Venus,Neptune, Pluto and Jupiter.

Out of bound planets allow you to be unique in your expression of these.


OK, I think I understand.
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Jupiter is 29 degrees. I will have to check that out. That weakens it, I think,but I am not sure exactly how that would function here.


OK.

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You have a 0 degree Scorpio Mercury which is the strongest energy of the sign. I would think that would strengthen your mental abilities . Scorpio has a keen, detective type of mind, anyway.
The Lexigrams fit well with this.
I taught myself how to read at 4 1/2 and began Lexigramming at about 5 years old.
A bit about all that here! http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum8/HTML/001923.html
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You are a Cap ASC and you have Cancer on the Descendent.
You are an organized ,practical person. You are attracted to a more warm, fuzzy type of guy.
Is your husband like that?Is he a sweet, nurturing type of man.
I love Cancer in a man(not sun or moon, though lol)
I like to be organized, at least mentally, and practical...oh definitely!
Give me useful things like power tools not candy and jewelry!
And yes! My beloved is like that!

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You have Chiron in the first. I have never seen that.
I wonder if others have.
This could be your physical issues as a child.
Of which there were many.

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Your NN is in your first house. I have not seen that very much either.

I am not sure what that would mean unless you need to make peace with your physical, external self.
This could make sense from all you said cuz you had very hard physical issues to reconcile.


Yes, I do still struggle with my body, and just when I think I have made some peace with my physical.... it acts up again. My intersex issues too, which only society, not myself had/has issues with.....but no one wants to be seen as a freak.
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Your SN would be in Cancer so you are comfortable with Cancer energy. This makes sense from your personality as I perceive it on LL.
I feel more Cancerian than Scorpio. Perhaps because I have been a Cancerian in many lifetimes?
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However, usually we want to draw our DSC energy to us in another person so I am not sure about this
You are not as comfortable with Cap energy cuz your NN is there.
The NN is what we need to perfect.
I will think on this...I think I kinda get what you mean.

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Ami

As always, please correct anything I have wrong.


Looking good so far!
Thank you so very much Ami!


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posted August 20, 2010 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
You are so very welcome, LEXX. I will come back tomorrow to look at the synastry!


Ami

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posted August 20, 2010 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you Ami!
Take your time!
Sweet dreams!

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posted August 21, 2010 01:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for scrappydog     Edit/Delete Message
Neptune in 8th here. Yes!!! I am not afraid of death...I embrace it with open arms.

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Ami Ann
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posted August 21, 2010 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Scrappy Dog,
I came to tell LEXX I would look at her chart tomorrow.
You REALLY embrace death?
Tell me about it!

Ami

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posted August 21, 2010 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message
I'm not afraid of death, just for the way I die...

chiron 8th!

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posted August 21, 2010 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Ami Ann
Take your time!
Perhaps post further replies here
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum23/HTML/000095-16.html
instead of here so other folks do not have to wade through readings for me,
and so can get back to your original reason for this thread.

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posted August 21, 2010 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
WOW
I should not be afraid of death. It is embarrassing that I am cuz I am a big believer in God
I love you guys.
Please tell me why you are not afraid of death.
I am going to bed and will look forward to reading in the morning.
I feel so grateful for your honest responses!
Mir
Scrappy dog
LEXX

x o x Ami
PS My threads have a life of their own , LEXX.
If it goes to your charts,that is fine with me.
Things go as they should, as I see it.
I love that my thread is about your charts now.
People can still post about the subject.
It will be like Jambolya --a stew with everything throw in



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posted August 21, 2010 10:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Ami!

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posted August 21, 2010 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message
I know I'm (almost) alone with this one but I do not believe in any higher power like God, past lifes etc.

For me it's done after this life and unfortunately I'm as sure as most who do believe in a higher power..

You could say this is the reason that I'm not afraid of death.

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