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Lara
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posted October 25, 2010 06:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Everyone is REAL Ami Anne!

Ok enough air kissing - ALL signs have niggly bits and l don't think that CrazyAqua was saying it was ALL cancerians anyway cos she/he said that in the OP.

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posted October 25, 2010 06:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message
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The disease is a good description though of cancerians once we latch on we don't let go till death do us part ... Well most cancerians. I exclude myself from them


I will include myself in this...I never stop caring about people. I look at it as my best quality, I know a LOT of people can't and WON'T be friends with exes or people they feel have wronged them. I do, I may not go back to them, or may keep them at an appropriate distance to avoid myself from getting hurt...but I'll always be there if they need me or if I can be of help in some way. I don't enter into ANY relationship (may it be friendship or romantic relationship) unless I intend it to be there through thick and thin. And yeah I don't let go...but why is that a bad thing. In my opinion people shouldn't be so quick to stop caring about a person and walk away. This is one of the reasons I tend to like most Aqua's I've met (esp the one's with Water or Earth...but depending on how much Water they may be more sensitive and emotional than myself). They don't hold the past against you, and they tend to stay "friendly" with ppl even if they've been wronged or hurt, and they genuinely care for their well being.

I don't hold grudges...there is no point. It just makes for bad karma lol. But even my horribly screwed up Aqua ex...I care very deeply for him (I will admit I went through my share of childish and reactive behavior), and wish him the best. And find it very sad and immature that he can't be at least civil towards me at this point. Esp since I'd really genuinely like to know how he is doing, I'm leaning towards the fact that he reached his doesn't care mode. However, I don't tend to see that trait in Aqua's alot...unless you've REALLY wronged them, and for the most part they will tell you if you have done something they don't like or why they aren't talking to you).

Generally I find most Aquas (at least the ones I've dealt with) tend to not go back to a bad situation but at the very least will be cool with catching up or someone wanting to see how they are and trying to be "friendly." And it not being personal.

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Lara
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posted October 25, 2010 07:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Why would anyone wish to be friends with an ex.

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posted October 25, 2010 07:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for matt     Edit/Delete Message
I dont see what the problem is, generalizing is always going to occur-patterns that we see.

No one complains when people say;

Scorpios are full of passion
Libras are beautiful
Aries are go-getters ......etc

These may be positive, but stll generalizations none the less.

My sister is Cancer Sun and she is the most level headed, grown up person I know but my old boss too has a Cancer Sun and he is what I can only describe as a wet fart with a back bone made of biscuit. Go figure.

You have to speculate to accumulate. But the more info you find, the more the generalization then disapears and one way of fnding more is by asking.

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posted October 25, 2010 07:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
Mwah ami

you are one of us Cancerians

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Ami Anne
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posted October 25, 2010 07:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Well, I think very few people are real, actually.
Being real is very ,very ,very hard.
You have to take your mask off.
To find someone real is to find a gem.

I don't claim to be real just trying to get there.

Thank you, Belgz back at ya

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posted October 25, 2010 07:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
hmmmm my Johnnhy is a cancer asc and he is the most mature,responsible,heart loving and caring person i have ever know.

and...yeah Belgz he is also the better lover in the world

immature=== well his brother is a walking piece of immaturity and i dont see cancer there..just a loaded 9th/10th of libra and virgo placements.

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posted October 25, 2010 07:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
I disagree, being real is EASY. Being fake is really really hard!
I never understood why people need masks - what's the point in deceiving yourself?
(i'm generalising and my finger is typing not pointing at anyone)

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posted October 25, 2010 07:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Every sign has the weak side and the strong side, of course.
Cancer's strengths are beautiful.
My guy has a Cancer ASC.
It is so sweet, little boy and warm.
I am a Cancer moon.
I have the good and bad sides of Cancer so I know of what I speak

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Benedict Moon*
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posted October 25, 2010 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message
LOL, I don't have a problem with generalities on placements....not at all. I just disagree with the OP on WHAT the generality is. Immaturity is not a common Cancerian trait, but moodiness is. Immaturity is something that is evolutionary, not sign-related. Immaturity is also perception based---->>> people who are less expressive are always going to percieve those who are more expressive in that way. My Aquarian aunt thought I was super immature for the longest time...probably for the same reason the OP sees Cancers that way.

Also, I'll admit that I have a tendency to react explosively when I'm angry (which I was *not* in this thread), but I think that's due to my Mars Sign and my Culture as well.

So I'm not leaving because someone made another thread boohooing about Cancers. There's already tons of those. I'm leaving because I'm just utterly annoyed that I can never be taken seriously on here when I'm simply trying to get my point across. I can't disagree with people without being accused of oversensitivity, overreactivity, manipulation,underhandedness, etc. It's a reoccuring issue that did not begin with this thread which is ridiculous and frustrating since I consider myself very straightfoward and I always try to be clear and cut to the point with people (despite all the Cancer in my chart..hehe). I can't be comfortable here if people are gonna keep projecting their issues with others in real life onto me. That, and school is just kicking my ass right now so I need to devote my full attention to that...LOL.


So, I guess my 15 minutes are up but I just felt the need to explain myself before I go on hiatus. Have a great week, guys!

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posted October 25, 2010 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Lara
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Why would anyone wish to be friends with an ex.

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I disagree, being real is EASY. Being fake is really really hard!
I never understood why people need masks - what's the point in deceiving yourself?
(i'm generalising and my finger is typing not pointing at anyone)

PS.Yes, I said I was leaving this thread, but Lara's remarks hit home with me.

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posted October 25, 2010 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
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posted October 25, 2010 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message
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Why would anyone wish to be friends with an ex.
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I disagree, being real is EASY. Being fake is really really hard!
I never understood why people need masks - what's the point in deceiving yourself?
(i'm generalising and my finger is typing not pointing at anyone)
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PS.Yes, I said I was leaving this thread, but Lara's remarks hit home with me.


I actually disagree...being fake is VERY easy. So is being superficial...in fact I kinda view the whole not wanting to stay friends with an ex as a very superficial comment. They are people first, and just because whatever happend btw you and them occured doesn't take away that they are a human being. Plus if you can share your heart, body, time, thoughts, etc with someone certaintly you can find SOMETHING about them to be friends with or else you wouldn't have dated them. I can see a lot of Cancers (hell water signs) who wouldn't be into this...but this is why I for one love Aquas and a lot of Sags as well...they don't hold the past against someone. The person matters, not the relationship whatever it might have been.

On the comment of being fake as hard, actually I'd have to say everyday we encounter superficial things, and its easy to give in to that. In fact you could say this is one. This website while it does delve into the matters of astrology one could say its superficial/fake to just go to the surface and call Cancers immature, and likewise for someone to get upset about a random statement.

I go back to the fact that everyone should just chill out and remember to not take everything so seriously. Last time I checked Astrology was meant to bridge the people on this site together not tear them apart because of some random opinion.

Btw I wonder what sign is Lara and Lexx...I'm guessing they are the ones with the issues if I'm reading correctly.

**BenedictMoon don't leave...I agree with you that school should be your number one priority right now, but still I wouldn't let a few random ppl on here ruin it for you. You can be loving and give great advise...even if I don't want to hear it. So if you leave don't let it be because of some randoms who don't know you. Let it be because you're done with this.

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posted October 25, 2010 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
WOW ok.

So if someone is an EX, what kind of friendship would you have seeing as they are dumped as a partner yet good enough for a friend? You see, it seems as if there was no discrimination in the beginning. Instead of just starting as friends, one had to jump into bed with them and have a future kind of friend with benefits. Any man who is a friend of a woman who has dumped him is in my eyes a total pussy. WHY on earth would a guy want to keep in touch with a no no, not even a maybe?!

This is what interests me about your post. Your name is girly girly which in itself is superficial and fake. You say its easy to be a fake and yet you wanna hold onto the past, which is now fake lol
If l organised my friendships by saying "there is SOMETHING about this person thats worthy of my friendship" then the entire world would be your friend!!

Fakeness has a past, present and future.
REALNESS has just now and trust me, it's really simple and easy to just BE in the NOW!
I guess anyone who thinks its hard to be genuine will now be pigeon-holed as a fake by my simple mind. pmsl

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posted October 25, 2010 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message
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I dont see what the problem is, generalizing is always going to occur-patterns that we see.
No one complains when people say;

Scorpios are full of passion
Libras are beautiful
Aries are go-getters ......etc

These may be positive, but stll generalizations none the less.

My sister is Cancer Sun and she is the most level headed, grown up person I know but my old boss too has a Cancer Sun and he is what I can only describe as a wet fart with a back bone made of biscuit. Go figure.

You have to speculate to accumulate. But the more info you find, the more the generalization then disapears and one way of fnding more is by asking.


I couldn't have agreed more with you!

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posted October 25, 2010 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
what a mess is around here.

just chill out everyone please.

the title itself of the thread might come across as a generalization and to be honest,this by itself would ( like it happened) awake very strong posts.

generalizations never worked well here in LL.

to me this all happens cause the poster probably knows someone,a single person who gets to his nerves,and so,on an impulse created the thread.

obviously i also dont agree.cancers are very loyal,sweet and caring people.not immature at all,but certainly moody.

moodiness might come across as immaturity at certain levels,but surely is not the same thing.

another thing that i noticed is that lately many here react strongly to what others post.

Please Dont! because this is all astrology.we are aware that each human being is UNIQUE and as so,we all have also different opinions,perspectives of things in Life,as well this:

life is a subjective experience and all that we see,is really transformed by our own perception.

and what is perception if not something so unique as ourselves?

dont judge anyone,cause we dont have that power over anyone.only over ouselves.

and mypost is not directed to any person in specific.this is just something i wanted to share.

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posted October 25, 2010 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
and i came to the conclusion awhile ago that when someone reacts strongly to something,is cause somehow they see themselves,or part of themselves reflected on the thing to which they are reacting.

with that in Mind,i think that for those things not to happen,the best thing is to work on ourselves 1st and see what might be inside of us,that do make us RE-ACT instead of just let it Be.

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posted October 25, 2010 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message
I don’t think saying everyone has a value and treating them like such is superficial. We can agree to disagree but even when I have been dumped I don’t hold the past against someone. I don’t see the point. Not everyone is meant to be together forever, or right for each other, and not all breakups are bad…but if I’m reading correctly (according to you) that means just because you are an ex you should totally discard this person. I would love if the whole world was my friend, and everyone got along…but again I blame my Venus in 11th for that (again one more reason why I tend to love Aqua’s…they usually share the same sort of view point).


As far as you thinking that fakeness is difficult and realness is easy that’s an opinion you hold, and that’s fine. I don’t stop caring for anyone…if someone wants to say that’s holding onto the past then fine. I don’t agree…but again that’s what makes this site great. We aren’t going to all agree with each other yet you can have a convo like this and still be cool with someone. I’m not pigeon holding you as simple…however if you'd like to pigeon hold me that would be fine...I'd rather someone have an opinion of me than just be indifferent lol.

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This is what interests me about your post. Your name is girly girly which in itself is superficial and fake. You say its easy to be a fake and yet you wanna hold onto the past, which is now fake lol

I will say though the above comment about my name is a dic* move…especially since no one mentioned anything personal.

I'd really like CrazyAquarian to come back...I think that they shook up the site and left lol...in true (generalized) Aqua fashion lol.

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posted October 25, 2010 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message
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I don’t think saying everyone has a value and treating them like such is superficial. We can agree to disagree but even when I have been dumped I don’t hold the past against someone. I don’t see the point. Not everyone is meant to be together forever, or right for each other, and not all breakups are bad…but if I’m reading correctly (according to you) that means just because you are an ex you should totally discard this person. I would love if the whole world was my friend, and everyone got along…but again I blame my Venus in 11th for that (again one more reason why I tend to love Aqua’s…they usually share the same sort of view point).

I know I'm technically suppose to be GONE, but I had to say that to put yourself on the line like that is very genuine IMO. I've said before that I could never understand why people remain friends with an ex, and I still don't think I could do it with certain people (who wrecked me emotionally) , but this piece made it so much clearer to this Gemini Venus. Thanks.

I also believe its easier to be fake than real, because no one wants to be exposed or vulnerable. We're all fake when we hide behind our facades, our Ascendants, or whatever. Its just a fact of life.

And my hiatus won't be permanent, I just need to get my priorities straight before I come back here, me thinks.


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posted October 25, 2010 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message

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And my hiatus won't be permanent, I just need to get my priorities straight before I come back here, me thinks

Your hiatus better not be permanent missy lol...you've been there with your Virgo Moon wiseness and discrimination that only a Virgo Moon (and other Virgo's) can give. So hurry and come back soon :-) You'll be missed!!!!

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posted October 25, 2010 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diablo     Edit/Delete Message
As a Cancerian with 3 planets all I gotta say is, what a stupid argument.

Cancers are known for being one of the most vague signs to pin a generic personality on, you put 10 Cancerians in a room and they're all vastly different and multifaceted individuals.

Just look at the Cancers on LL: me, Belgz, BM, IQ.....I think its safe to say that none of us are immature and pretty level headed.

Every individual is unique

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posted October 25, 2010 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
i also agree that being fake is much harder.than being just who we are.

why?

because by being fake,by using masks,you are having to work on it.you´re re-creating yourself,like you re creating a character.

you´re not being REAL,so you must think and !"write" and act the stuff you created for yourself as the masquerade girl/boy.

but being REAL.being who you are,being in the NOW like Lara said...is just our natural state of Being.doenst require An ACTING SCene, written arguments,,a director,producers,an actress,actors and all that requires the PLAY to go on...and simply see that to be FAKE,you re all the above people at the same time.

if this isnt difficult, i dont know what is.

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posted October 25, 2010 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message
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As a Cancerian with 3 planets all I gotta say is, what a stupid argument.
Cancers are known for being one of the most vague signs to pin a generic personality on, you put 10 Cancerians in a room and they're all vastly different and multifaceted individuals.

Just look at the Cancers on LL: me, Belgz, BM, IQ.....I think its safe to say that none of us are immature and pretty level headed. Every individual is unique



So true! And to quote Rodney King (and yes I know its kinda sketchy to quote him)...but can't we all just get along. We are all on here for a similar interest...shouldn't that be enough for ppl do squabble and fight but come back and be supportive after the fact. Like a family, you won't always see eye to eye...but at the end of the day you have a mutual respect and caring for the other person.

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but being REAL.being who you are,being in the NOW like Lara said...is just our natural state of Being.doenst require An ACTING SCene, written arguments,,a director,producers,an actress,actors and all that requires the PLAY to go on...and simply see that to be FAKE,you re all the above people at the same time

This is true...I'm going about being real and fake as a way of psychology. I'm currently getting my masters in psychology, and one of the things that are taught are defense mechanisms (this is taught in undergrad). They are VERY pronounced in humans. Its very rare for a person to "be themselves" as they tend to put on an act in order to preserve themselves against any percieved threat. That is what I was going based on. The actual psychological approach. In fact if you talk to a lot of therapits, quite a few patients (depending on what they may have) find it VERY VERY difficult to be themselves and be "real" minus the pretense and smoke screens. So I think we are just approaching the same topic in different ways.

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posted October 25, 2010 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message
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Your hiatus better not be permanent missy lol...you've been there with your Virgo Moon wiseness and discrimination that only a Virgo Moon (and other Virgo's) can give. So hurry and come back soon :-) You'll be missed!!!!


I think I changed my mind? (How fitting! ) There won't be a hiatus, but I do gotta put more priority on other things than my online time.

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posted October 25, 2010 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
EXACTLY Diandra. Just being yourself is the easiest thing in life. Hell, it doesn't even require you to engage your brain, whereas being fake is a conscious mindset and has your brain working overtime


Grly, l just used your name as an example to illustrate a point. It was not personal because your name is not really grly, so how can that be personal?

To hold onto the past is not being real. The past is done and so its gone, finito. It's not supposed to be held onto and people are in your past for a reason, ya know?

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